Pats trade for Dwayne Allen [Merge]

[BCoop]

Do you guys know if we gave up our 6th as part of the deal?

 

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

My bad we got a 4th which is still good. A lot of people didn't think we could even get a 5 or 6 for him.

[MTC]

The national media and fans are all praising the Patriots for trading for Dwayne Allen as if he was a top player at his position. I don't get it. 

[Virtuoso80]

So basically we moved up from the 6th to the 4th

[dew5150]

Outside of Allen's production issues last year, Allen is a very likeable guy. Performance just didn't live up to the salary.

[pgt_rob]

Just now, BCoop said:

Do you guys know if we gave up our 6th as part of the deal?

 

 

 

Yes. But apparently we have 3 4-Round picks now?

[Shecky]

Allen is slated to make just $2.5M next season.

$4.5M in 2018 and $6.5 in '19.

Barring a very good season, rest assured those last two will be renegotiated or he's gone.

It will scare (but not surprise) anyone if he has a 2017 season similar to his rookie year.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, BCoop said:

Do you guys know if we gave up our 6th as part of the deal?

 

 

We did, we got a 4th and gave up our 6th

[BullsColtsFan1]

I hate that it was with the Pats but they got a good deal in return imo.  I can't complain. 

[dgambill]

Just now, Defjamz26 said:

B/Rbreporting it's a 4th but Pats will also get a 6th.

Wow...all those saying we should trade him...I apologize he did have trade value....not much but some. We now have 3 4th rd picks....TE now a need....but I give Ballard credit...that is still more than I thought we could get.

[BCoop]

Good grief, people.

[tweezy32]

Okay he gets the point on what we gave up

[Shive]

4 minutes ago, dgambill said:

I'm assuming this is a fake twitter account.

Nope, its legit. We send Allen & our 6th to NE for their 4th.

 

Edit: Dammit. I'm too slow today...lol

[bababooey]

1 minute ago, MTC said:

The national media and fans are all praising Patriots for trading for Dwayne Allen as if he was a top player at his position. I don't get it. 

When you're a winner everything you do gets praised.

[Superman]

2 minutes ago, dw49 said:

 

 

I'm shocked by this move as Allen really wasn't very expensive for the next 2 years. The "brunt" of the contract was written in first and last year. Obviously Ballard thought he was pretty bad last year. Hopefully a little of it is they like Swoop a lot and want to get him on the field more ? In any event I'm betting it's NE's 5th which is pretty close to a 6th . If it's for their 6th , it qualify's as slightly more than just cutting him. 

 

I blow my horn now and then when I'm right , so I'll take my medicine on this one. I did not see this coming at all and  pretty much thought those that did were full of it.

 

This is why I hated the Allen contract structure. We just paid him $11.5m for one substandard season. 

 

But like you, I didn't see Allen having trade value. Not because of the contract -- NE has him for $4.5m in 2017 -- but because he hasn't played well. Word is we get NE's 4th, and we give up our 6th. I can live with that. This is not a bad draft to add another 4th.

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Good deal for both teams actually.

[dgambill]

Just now, Shive said:

Nope, its legit. We send Allen & our 6th to NE for their 4th.

Not taking long for Ballard to reshape this team...and undo all Grigson's handiwork. Rebuild in full effect.

[antipatriot]

I like our new GM already, I was never a fan of Allen and especially the deal he got from Grigs.

[Superman]

3 minutes ago, pgt_rob said:

 

Yes. But apparently we have 3 4-Round picks now?

 

This is going to be NE's comp 4th. Their regular 4th is forfeited due to Deflategate. Oh, the irony.

 

So we have 122, 137 and 144. 

[TKnight24]

 

[superrep1967]

6 minutes ago, CheezyColt said:

It's really amazing how quickly fans turn on players....

What do you mean he sucked last year butter fingers and Ballard said on NFL Network he wants guys who can catch the ball. So bye Allen,

[2006Coltsbestever]

To clarify we got a 4th and gave up a 6th but after re-signing Doyle this trade makes sense and is good for us. That gives us another 4th Round pick.

[Defjamz26]

 

[jet1968]

Wait until he drops a bunch of Tom Brady passes he wont get the Andrew Luck pep talk.  ha ha

[bababooey]

1 minute ago, Superman said:

 

This is why I hated the Allen contract structure. We just paid him $11.5m for one substandard season. 

 

But like you, I didn't see Allen having trade value. Not because of the contract -- NE has him for $4.5m in 2017 -- but because he hasn't played well. Word is we get NE's 4th, and we give up our 6th. I can live with that. This is not a bad draft to add another 4th.

The salary cap has gone up 40% since Allen was drafted. 11.5 million isn't the worst. Could have paid an older Garcon 16 million like the Niners are this year (compared to 12 million for 2 years like the Gmen for Marshall). I know not the same position but a little comparison to make it hurt less.

[Virtuoso80]

Instead of rebuilding, how about reloading with the correct ammo.

[tweezy32]

20 minutes ago, bababooey said:

Get your hopes way, way down.

Good thing I kept my hopes up!

 

[superrep1967]

2 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

This is why I hated the Allen contract structure. We just paid him $11.5m for one substandard season. 

 

But like you, I didn't see Allen having trade value. Not because of the contract -- NE has him for $4.5m in 2017 -- but because he hasn't played well. Word is we get NE's 4th, and we give up our 6th. I can live with that. This is not a bad draft to add another 4th.

 

Yeah, Not if Ballard wants to stockpile young defensive players as starters and depth. 

[CR91]

Extra 4th for allen? I'll take it and clears 3mil. Well played ballard. Well played

[stitches]

Dwayne Allen tweets:

 

[B~Town]

Hasn't NE traded for a lot of TEs last few years ?

[TheMarine]

Like this move, and yeah can completely tell its a new regime when the Colts deal with the Pats. Dwayne gets a fresh start, which he needed. We get a 4th round and cap space, which we needed. Dwayne simply couldnt produce often enough while here due to health

[tweezy32]

20 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

What did you think they were going to get value for a guy who hasn't been that productive since his rookie year and has had injury problems?  

... Well then!

 

[FloridaColtsFan]

Anxious to see who Ballard picks up for another tight end. I feel good about getting a 4th rounder and unloading Allen's contract. 

[Coffeedrinker]

14 minutes ago, stitches said:

That's a relatively good return, IMO!

Patriots must place a lot of value on a 6th round pick.

[bababooey]

1 minute ago, B~Town said:

Hasn't NE traded for a lot of TEs last few years ?

The guy from Tampa, Bennett, Allen. Tough when all your guy had to do was not murder someone and couldn't even do that.

2 minutes ago, tweezy32 said:

Good thing I kept my hopes up!

 

Was not expecting the 6th to be included in the deal, so I'm glad!

[Colts_Fan12]

A 4th hot damn I'll take it!!

[Track Guy]

This frees up some more cap room to pull free agents. And it jumps our 6th round pick to a 4th. So basically this will be a good trade, if Ballard can use those resources well. I've got a good feeling about it, at the moment. 

[JRnINDY]

I think NFL network says NE gets Allen & our 6th pick, Colts get NE's 4th & 6th

[dgambill]

11 minutes ago, Shive said:

Nope, its legit. We send Allen & our 6th to NE for their 4th.

 

Edit: Dammit. I'm too slow today...lol

lol....Things started off slow but they are really heating up now.