Colts1324 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Not mine, not yours, but what do you think Irsay's minimum expectations are for next year? Is Pagano gone if we don't win more than 11 games and advance past the divisionalcard round? Does Irsay expect a 12-4 + season with Luck going into his sixth season or do you think he keeps Pagano if we just simply make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfarley Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, Colts1324 said: Not mine, not yours, but what do you think Irsay's minimum expectations are for next year? Is Pagano gone if we don't win more than 11 games and advance past the divisionalcard round? Does Irsay expect a 12-4 + season with Luck going into his sixth season or do you think he keeps Pagano if we just simply make the playoffs. I think he would want significant improvement on the defensive side of the ball. And playoffs without getting whooped in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Beach Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 With an 8 - 8 Head Coach do you really believe he can get the team to the playoffs? Regardless of the GM sins Pagano has had the best QB in the league and the best he can do is 8 & 8!! He should be shown the door like all the others he has fired! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKColt13 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I think he should want at least a playoff victory with massive defensive improvement. And an ability to beat over .500 teams. Unfortunateky I can see him settling with a playoff appearance. Will be interesting to see how much of an impact the opinion of the new GM makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Superman Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Beat the Patriots or bust, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsarquise Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Win the South and make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 11 minutes ago, Green_Ranger said: Beat the Patriots or bust, We don't play the pats next year unless we meet in the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runthepost Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Win the division but we could be in a dog fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, runthepost said: Win the division but we could be in a dog fight I sure hope not if that's his expectations from Pagano then he has set the bar extremely low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JColts72 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Pick a gm before the super bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NannyMcafee Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 The colts have the ability to beat the patriots. It's like the colts stay competitive for one qtr maybe, and then crap themselves because they realize they're playing the patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, NannyMcafee said: The colts have the ability to beat the patriots. It's like the colts stay competitive for one qtr maybe, and then crap themselves because they realize they're playing the patriots. We do not have the ability right now our D would get absolutely destroyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterBowman Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Consistentcy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakai432 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 39 minutes ago, Tsarquise said: Win the South and make the playoffs. This. If this doesn't happen Pagano is for sure gone in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aReggie7 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I think that if Irsay had been able to replace Pagano with a big name then he would have done it last year or this year. Bringing in a new GM almost guarantees Pagano is gone after this season, imo. Even if it isn't a big name coach Irsay seems to prefer. I don't think it matters what this team accomplishes short of a Super Bowl. I think Pagano will be replaced after this season. Heck, there is still a chance Irsay changes his mind on keeping him one more year though I would be surprised if he did at this a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernBlue Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Considering how much talent this D lacks, I don't know how some are expecting at least a playoff win. Sure, it would be nice, especially if you host that playoff game, but realistically, if Indy wins the division (which won't be easy, Tennessee is coming on), and shows general improvement defensively, then I see Pags staying. The only way I see them firing him even if they make the playoffs is if they get killed in round 1, on top of having a mediocre 8-8/9-7 record in the regular season (essentially meaning they made the playoffs because the rest of the division sucked). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManningGM Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Pagano won't even be here next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 minute ago, ManningGM said: Pagano won't even be here next season. Wish that was true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NannyMcafee Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Colts_Fan12 said: We do not have the ability right now our D would get absolutely destroyed I agree with this, but i have seen this D make the patriots punt on multiple occasions. In most cases, it is because the offense can't score. But overall I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deedub75 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 A top 5 draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts1324 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 3 hours ago, chrisfarley said: I think he would want significant improvement on the defensive side of the ball. And playoffs without getting whooped in them. I hope he doesn't let Pagano be our Marvin Lewis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts1324 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 51 minutes ago, ManningGM said: Pagano won't even be here next season. Depends on our season. If we go to the AFC championship game and lose to the pats or KC in a clos game? Do we bring him back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts1324 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 2 hours ago, CR91 said: We don't play the pats next year unless we meet in the playoffs Yeah I predict us to be the 3rd seed next year and play Oakland in the divisional round. I think pats still take number 1 seed as of right now. Dion Lewis and Gronk will take that team to another level if he stays completely healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts1324 Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 3 hours ago, UKColt13 said: I think he should want at least a playoff victory with massive defensive improvement. And an ability to beat over .500 teams. Unfortunateky I can see him settling with a playoff appearance. Will be interesting to see how much of an impact the opinion of the new GM makes. That's my biggest fear for this franchise going forward. Settling with an average HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaturdayAllDay Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I dont think the record will necessarily matter to Irsay. I think with Grigson being fired and Pagano getting to keep his job despite being "tied at the hip", Irsay has shown that he believes that the main issue with the team is the lack of talent brought in. A talented defense obviously cant be made in 1 offseason, so I think Irsay realizes that this will be a multi year process and as long as positive steps are being made, he will be happy. He is giving Pagano one last chance to prove that he can be the guy to turn this team around, and unless we see an end (or at least a big decline) in the terrible game planning, lack of discipline (missed tackles, drops, penalties, etc) and questionable coaching decisions (oddly timed challenges/timeouts, ridiculous fake punts, constantly throwing on 3rd/4th and inches) then Pagano will be shown the door. Chances of this major turnaround are slim to none, and I fully expect Pagano to be gone by this time next year. That being said, if Pagano does make these changes and at least show a big improvement, then we will see results not only on the field, but in the standings. If we upgrade our defensive talent this offseason and cut down on stupid coaching decisions we have a chance at a deep playoff run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 6 hours ago, Don Beach said: With an 8 - 8 Head Coach do you really believe he can get the team to the playoffs? Regardless of the GM sins Pagano has had the best QB in the league and the best he can do is 8 & 8!! He should be shown the door like all the others he has fired! Why do you think he's "an 8-8 head coach".... For his first three years he was an 11-5 head coach. And he went further in the playoffs each year. If you want to look at the Big Picture, he's 49-31, plus 3-3 in the playoffs. As to 2017.... I think Irsay would want at least 10 wins, to win the AFC South and not a Wild Card, and at least a good showing in the post-season. That's a very loose set of goals and gives everyone some flexibility either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I think he needs to go 10-6 and win the Division and win at least 1 Playoff game. That would show we are going back in the right direction. Otherwise he should be gone, JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 11 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said: Why do you think he's "an 8-8 head coach".... For his first three years he was an 11-5 head coach. And he went further in the playoffs each year. If you want to look at the Big Picture, he's 49-31, plus 3-3 in the playoffs. As to 2017.... I think Irsay would want at least 10 wins, to win the AFC South and not a Wild Card, and at least a good showing in the post-season. That's a very loose set of goals and gives everyone some flexibility either way. You are wasting your time, the Chuck haters don't acknowledge what he accomplished from 2012-2014, remember that doesn't count to them . What is funny is, the best job he probably done was in 2015 with Andrew missing 9 games because we still went 8-8 without our franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 6 hours ago, NannyMcafee said: The colts have the ability to beat the patriots. It's like the colts stay competitive for one qtr maybe, and then crap themselves because they realize they're playing the patriots. Not true at all.. We do not have a good defense..when we play very well, we are average ..not enough edge rushers..not enough corners; we lack speed at LB...our=D-line is regularly overpowered. 'we struggle to contain jacksonville, as we all know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 4 hours ago, NannyMcafee said: I agree with this, but i have seen this D make the patriots punt on multiple occasions. . when was that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 5 hours ago, ManningGM said: Pagano won't even be here next season. If we make the playoffs he will be...and should be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 6 hours ago, JColts72 said: Pick a gm before the super bowl. no rush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 7 hours ago, Don Beach said: With an 8 - 8 Head Coach do you really believe he can get the team to the playoffs? Regardless of the GM sins Pagano has had the best QB in the league and the best he can do is 8 & 8!! He should be shown the door like all the others he has fired! The worst Pagano has done is 8-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esmort Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 hour ago, oldunclemark said: If we make the playoffs he will be...and should be JUST making the playoffs shouldn't be enough ... he needs to show marked improvement in game planning, decision making, and player development/fundamentals on top of making the playoffs (by winning the division not a wildcard) ... and even then we need to win at least the first playoff game, or at the very least look very good/competitive in the loss ... anything short of that and he should be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HungarianColtsFan Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 11 hours ago, Colts1324 said: Not mine, not yours, but what do you think Irsay's minimum expectations are for next year? Is Pagano gone if we don't win more than 11 games and advance past the divisionalcard round? Does Irsay expect a 12-4 + season with Luck going into his sixth season or do you think he keeps Pagano if we just simply make the playoffs. I think his objectives haven't changed: multiple SB titles with Luck. Reaching that objective requires Colts being considered as contender almost every season and reaching to championship games. And of course, Colts need to find out how to beat Pats... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJpalmbeacher2 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 11 hours ago, Colts1324 said: Not mine, not yours, but what do you think Irsay's minimum expectations are for next year? Is Pagano gone if we don't win more than 11 games and advance past the divisionalcard round? Does Irsay expect a 12-4 + season with Luck going into his sixth season or do you think he keeps Pagano if we just simply make the playoffs. I think it will be more of the same of the last few seasons. Meanning he will want to replace pagano with a BIG NAME HC and fail again and he will be stuck again with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManningGM Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 12 hours ago, Colts1324 said: Depends on our season. If we go to the AFC championship game and lose to the pats or KC in a clos game? Do we bring him back? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funktacious2 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Win the division/make the playoffs and Improve the defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisticuffs111 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Make the playoffs and look good doing it. They have to stop coming out so unprepared so consistently, can't keep relying on Andrew Luck led comebacks, no epic 2nd half collapses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NannyMcafee Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 9 hours ago, oldunclemark said: when was that? It would be nice to have a defense that can consistently stop the patriots, but the fact that we get blown out is because our offense can't score vs them. We get embarrassed on offense more than defense. I would say talent wise, our offense is tops in the league and yet lay an egg vs the pats. Yeah it would be great to consistently stop them, but you can't blame no scoring on defense. I can't tell you when the colts made them punt. That's an unreasonable question for you to ask. Imo this team knows they have to win a shoot out vs the pats, and fail to score almost every game vs them. Any defensive stop that we have is helping our offense, and our offense won't take advantage of that, rare gift the defense gives them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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