TheJACKCOLT Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Pagano and Pep put this team at a huge disadvantage before the game every starts. The (deer in the headlights) look of this team, is the lack of preparation and discipline of the head coach. The horrible play calling is the lack of knowledge of Pep. Pagano gets out coached each and every week, this team deserves better. Pagano is a great guy, but he is killing this team. We need a coach that gives us an advantage, and a coach that can make adjustments and holds players accountable. I know that we have made the playoffs three years in a row, and all the other things that the Pagano apologist will bring up, but none of that has been because Pagano has out coached anyone, and if that's all you want for this team, then OK I get it, but This team has gone as far as it will ever go, with Pagano as the head coach. We will never win a Super Bowl with Pagano, if you can't see that now, you never will. Pep is over his head, I just don't think he has enough experience as a OC, to help this team. He doesn't make the adjustments needed to help this team succeed, his play calling and lack of adjustments are horrible, and Pagano does nothing to reel him in, between the two of them this team is not put in the best position to succeed, yes the players have to make the plays, but the coaches have to put them in the best position to do so. This team is lacking talent wise, in some areas, but they could do a lot better, with even decent coaching, but with Pagano and Pep, the are at a huge disadvantage and deserve better. Teams shouldn't have to win in spite of their coaches, they should be winning because of their coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillSaints Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 So I am a saints fan here. However, I need you to beat the other three teams in the division. I have felt like Pep holds the team back. What happened to Luck doing what he wants like last year? Why did the colts get away from that? Also, the RBBC if there is one is the fault of Pagano. What was the point of bringing in Bradshaw to screw up Gore's progress? He had 9 carries for over 40 yards. That's not bad. Gore was a guy who got fed in SF, this protecting him from injury or keeping him limited for playoffs is rediculous. He is a every down back regardless of age. He needs to be the main back and get his 15-20 carries a game. Also, don't tease the fans saying Dorsett was the number three receiver when he really wasn't. It's not gonna kill people to tell who the starters are. If Andre isn't good enough then please give Moncrief more targets. The weapons are there but the management is bad. However, the saints have a rising defense but the colts could have given us more trouble by running the ball. Your defense is good enough to deal with Carolina, it's gonna come down to the offensive management though in that game. I think the colts need to rely on Gore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluephantom87 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 So true but add Greg Manusky to the mix with his 29th ranked defense coming into the day which let the Saints march 82yds in SIX plays on their opening drive after halftime!!! Nice adjustment.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakai432 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Aren't there about 50 other threads pertaining to this since game one. We need to do a mega bunker buster merge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21isSuperman Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Aren't there about 50 other threads pertaining to this since game one. We need to do a mega bunker buster merge.I'm on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21isSuperman Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Aren't there about 50 other threads pertaining to this since game one. We need to do a mega bunker buster merge.Done! Let me know if you see more threads relating to Pep and I'll merge them here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentMc11 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I actually don't play madden...or any games for that matter. But I am for firing both Pep and Pagano. Grigs is ok.No problem.....that was just my opinion. Do it after the season and I am alright with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentMc11 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 You my Friend win the internet for the day! Thank you...and I still mean it after the game. One play here and there and the turnovers. We could have won this game by two touchdowns. Not scoring on the last drive of the half was a killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigQandTheManiac Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Pep is the only OC I know that will constantly run plays that don't work. And go away from plays that do work, lol. How backwards is he?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollygagger8 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Pep doesn't know what screens, or slants even are. He'll abandon the run when our RB is averaging 5 ypc. He continues his 5-7 step dropback play calling regardless of situation. He is completely incapable of making in game adjustments. He's incapable of actually coaching the QB because he's in way over his head. Two minutes left down by a TD? ......refuses to run no huddle. SEEMS LIKE THE PERFECT FIT FOR AN OC. We have a once in a generation QB.We have 2 above average TE's. We have 2 above average WR's.We have a top level RB. We have a serviceable O-line. There's only one reason that this offense isn't working. It's been Chud Time for a long time. Make it happen!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moncrief Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Thank you...and I still mean it after the game. One play here and there and the turnovers. We could have won this game by two touchdowns. Not scoring on the last drive of the half was a killer. That and the fact that after we got those 2 TDs to Hilton, we went 3 and out for the next 2 series. If we could have put together any type of scores there, ahhhhh man missed opportunities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron11 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 You think if we started 20 more threads of complaining and whining it would change anything?What else is there to talk about? Like Doyle said, if not this, then what do we say about the colts this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycolt1 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 What else is there to talk about? Like Doyle said, if not this, then what do we say about the colts this year?Say anything you like. How many thread does it take to say the same thing over and over? A lot of Colt fans are soft. When the team is down the whole world is ending. I have been a long time Colt fan and this is nothing new. Being a fan does not mean you have to be a fanatic. People become NFL fans because of what? Is it a way to get away from everyday things? Is it a way to take you mind off everyday troubles? Everyone has a different reason for being a NFL fan. But each fan needs to realize that their get a way in their mind is not always a fantasy dream come true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron11 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Say anything you like. How many thread does it take to say the same thing over and over? A lot of Colt fans are soft. When the team is down the whole world is ending. I have been a long time Colt fan and this is nothing new. Being a fan does not mean you have to be a fanatic. People become NFL fans because of what? Is it a way to get away from everyday things? Is it a way to take you mind off everyday troubles? Everyone has a different reason for being a NFL fan. But each fan needs to realize that their get a way in their mind is not always a fantasy dream come true.I post this stuff because the team doesn't show up to play and they make some of the worst play calls that have ever been ran.We will keep making new threads for every game that it happens I guess. The pro writers do the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycolt1 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I post this stuff because the team doesn't show up to play and they make some of the worst play calls that have ever been ran.We will keep making new threads for every game that it happens I guess. The pro writers do the same thingNo problem, carry on! It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NagelHausForge Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I have had a horrible... terrible...awful thought... What if during the bye week Irsay fires Pagano.... and PEP HAMILTON is installed as the interim HC????? Hamilton is reportedly Grigson's guy... Has been looked at last off season for HC positions... This would be a good chance for him to audition for the HC position full time... Irsay is nothing if not unpredictable... I could seriously see this being a possibility. I hope to the gods it doesn't... but crazier things have happened... Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucklez Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Well, if he's the head coach at least he wouldnt be calling the plays.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I have had a horrible... terrible...awful thought...What if during the bye week Irsay fires Pagano.... and PEP HAMILTON is installed as the interim HC?????Hamilton is reportedly Grigson's guy... Has been looked at last off season for HC positions... This would be a good chance for him to audition for the HC position full time...Irsay is nothing if not unpredictable... I could seriously see this being a possibility. I hope to the gods it doesn't... but crazier things have happened...Thoughts?I think I just barfed at that thought..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NagelHausForge Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Well, if he's the head coach at least he wouldnt be calling the plays.... Aren't there HCs that call plays in the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKColt13 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Not a chance. Irsay might be a little erratic at times but he's not stupid enough to put a struggling OC in as HC, interim or otherwise. More likely to hire Jon Gruden or some other coach that's out of work atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsLegacy Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Well, if he's the head coach at least he wouldnt be calling the plays....Says who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProblChld32 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I have had a horrible... terrible...awful thought... What if during the bye week Irsay fires Pagano.... and PEP HAMILTON is installed as the interim HC????? Hamilton is reportedly Grigson's guy... Has been looked at last off season for HC positions... This would be a good chance for him to audition for the HC position full time... Irsay is nothing if not unpredictable... I could seriously see this being a possibility. I hope to the gods it doesn't... but crazier things have happened... Thoughts? I highly doubt they appoint Pep as interim coach i think they give the Nod to Rob Chudzinski since he is listed as the "Associate Head Coach" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NagelHausForge Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I highly doubt they appoint Pep as interim coach i think they give the Nod to Rob Chudzinski since he is listed as the "Associate Head Coach" The only thing there is that Chud is reportedly seen as Pagano's man... And could be in the outs along with Pagano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProblChld32 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 The only thing there is that Chud is reportedly seen as Pagano's man... And could be in the outs along with Pagano. Your hypothetical situation only List Pags and Pep as being outed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider2-Y-Banana Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I dont think Irsay is any too pleased with Grigson so, since Pep is a Grigson guy, maybe that will keep Irsay from making that AWFUL decision!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeedrinker Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 When has Irsay ever done something with the team that was unpredictable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgt_rob Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 That would be a terrible thought to have. I'm feeling your pain thinking about it. I think Chud would be the interim HC if Pagano was canned. I mean, I don't think I would be mad about that move but I don't think Pagano is the biggest problem we have. I think it's falling on Grigson and his additions to the team that aren't living up to their contracts. Pep not utilizing the great players that we DO have. If Grigson was canned during the season, it wouldn't change our play much. Damage is already done. If Pep was somehow canned, we could have the potential to improve offensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theanarchist Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I highly doubt they appoint Pep as interim coach i think they give the Nod to Rob Chudzinski since he is listed as the "Associate Head Coach"Even though Chud is supposedly a "Pagano guy" I think he would take over. I think Irsay understands that Pep is probably part of the issue with the teams struggles and would install Chud as the interim. Heck, maybe he's the long term solution?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theanarchist Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 When has Irsay ever done something with the team that was unpredictable?True. People can say what they want about Irsay and his personality but when it comes to the "horseshoe" he's made great decisions and he's been a fantastic owner. Much better owner than he was a GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgt_rob Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Even though Chud is supposedly a "Pagano guy" I think he would take over. I think Irsay understands that Pep is probably part of the issue with the teams struggles and would install Chud as the interim. Heck, maybe he's the long term solution?? I will also make the assumption that if Irsay fires Pagano, Chud will be our HC. As far as next season, Chud could very well be our HC too. However, if there's someone better out there that opens up (Sean Payton) we should go after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somewhere ovr the Waynebow Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 This is a great article that breaks down Pep's history as an offensive coach. The conclusion that I take away is that Pep has ridden up the ranks on the backs of other, more skilled coaches. Now that he is isolated, he is being exposed. Thoughts? http://www.stampedeblue.com/2015/10/26/9618586/a-closer-look-at-the-stanford-luck-hamilton-connection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 The conclusion that I take away is that Pep has ridden up the ranks on the backs of other, more skilled coaches. Now that he is isolated, he is being exposed. I'd agree with that conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patagonia Chris Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Some valid points but I just can't get over the writing of the article. It felt like I was reading something that was written for elementary school kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I wouldn't go so far as to say that he has risen through the ranks on the backs of others, but it seems like his resume is not, and was not, consistent with being an NFL OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Some valid points but I just can't get over the writing of the article. It felt like I was reading something that was written for elementary school kids.I completely agree. I just thought it was me being overly critical of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJpalmbeacher2 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I think Chud will be our interim, though Pep could also be appointed.Regardless, we need a Big Time HC for next season. My fear is that our interim,Chud or Pep, couldl have some success in the second half of this season and then be signed on for the next few seasons. And then once again we will have a average to below average HC.That, IMO is the worst thing for our Colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentHill Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Can someone mail this to Irsay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 think we could coax shaw into replacing hamilton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I wonder if Grigson did this kind of research before hiring Pep. To me, just get Mike Shanahan for head coach and Kyle Shanahan for OC, we will instantly improve on so many fronts, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdgacoltsfan Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I wonder if Grigson did this kind of research before hiring Pep. To me, just get Mike Shanahan for head coach and Kyle Shanahan for OC, we will instantly improve on so many fronts, IMO. Yes, by all means..they were a smashing success in DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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