[Yates] Colts trade Phillip Dorsett for Jacoby Brissett

[WoolMagnet]

Allen and Dorsett?  NE got a couple weapons from us imo.

they will get the most out of both. Wait and see.

the QB  addition could ncerns me more regarding Luck than tolzien/morris.  I see morris and briskett as similar.  Sure we need a better backup, but with Luck healthy, do we do the trade?  Do we keep Dorsett instead?  If ballard was gonna cut dorsett anyway, then im ok with this.  But i guess i saw more in Dorsett than most.

i would think if andrew was only missing a couple games, we'd limp thru  with tolzien/morris.

does briskett look that much better than morris to you guys?

[Mr. Irrelevant]

3 minutes ago, NorthernBlue said:

There is no way Brissett is gonna be as good here as he is in NE. And there is no way Dorsett will be as underutilized there as he was here. 

 

Brissett may be better than Tolzien and Morris, but there is no way he's so much better to the point that it warrants giving up a former first rounder (who believe it or not DOES have first round talent).

 

We gave up a lot of potential (that we for whatever reason could not tap) for New England's third string QB

 

This. Not acceptable. We could Pick up a nummer of free QB's soon.

[GoColts8818]

7 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Anyone sweating yet, Andrew's announcement will come at 359:59 pm

Or later.  The Colts have to make it by then.  There isn't really a deadline that they have to tell us by.  Often times the finals moves come out after 4...

[Flash7]

Just now, WoolMagnet said:

Allen and Dorsett?  NE got a couple weapons from us imo.

they will get the most out of both. Wait and see.

the QB  addition could ncerns me more regarding Luck than tolzien/morris.  I see morris and briskett as similar.  Sure we need a better backup, but with Luck healthy, do we do the trade?  Do we keep Dorsett instead?  If ballard was gonna cut dorsett anyway, then im ok with this.  But i guess i saw more in Dorsett than most.

i would think if andrew was only missing a couple games, we'd limp thru  with tolzien/morris.

does briskett look that much better than morris to you guys?

He's a product of the NE system, like Cassel, Mallet, etc. He will most likely suck once he's here.

 

Only a sucker would trade for a NE QB, as history has shown. I guess Ballard is not a student of history.

[Carlos Danger]

Not loving this based on what I know, but, for all I know, PD was getting cut...

 

It's hard not to think that the QB issue could have been dealt with sooner, cheaper, and more effectively, though.

[Solon]

People will finally see how Dorsett should be utilized. You can't expect him to catch 60+ balls while running nothing but deep routes when he's the 3rd receiver. N.E will turn him into a respectable commodity. Indy took him for granted.

[austriancolt]

A draft pick would have been better because it doesn't matter if Tolzien, Morris or Brissett is under center with any QB but Luck the Colts will most certainly lose

[GoColts8818]

1 minute ago, austriancolt said:

A draft pick would have been better because it doesn't matter if Tolzien, Morris or Brissett is under center with any QB but Luck the Colts will most certainly lose

The Pats might not have been willing to part with a draft pick.

[ukcolt12]

9 minutes ago, Finball said:

Well, Ballard said that they'll be making mistakes in his introductory press conference..

Ha spot on !

[CR91]

Awful. Just awful

[2006Coltsbestever]

Come on now, the 2 most bashed Colts on here over the last 2 years has been Dorsett and Chuck. I figured everyone would be happy with this one.

[Bravo]

Yikes..... terrible.

 

Dorsett going to NE for a 3rd string QB is not good. He will be a role player.

[Mr. Irrelevant]

OK guys, say something positive about Brissett to bring some solace to me.

[stitches]

We could have had Kaepernick for nothing! Tell me in what way is Brissett anywhere close to Kaep?

[will426]

It's not cool because you're trading to the team who we can't beat..then you take a qb who looks nice but could also be a product of ne system who also doesn't know our playbook 

[NorthernBlue]

2 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Come on now, the 2 most bashed Colts on here over the last 2 years has been Dorsett and Chuck. I figured everyone would be happy with this one.

Dorsett isn't a bad player. I don't think any sane and logical person will think that honestly. His value just doesn't add up to giving him for a 3rd stringer.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, Mr. Irrelevant said:

OK guys, say something positive about Brissett to bring some solace to me.

He is better than Tolzein and actually a hair better than Morris. there you go.

[stitches]

1 minute ago, Mr. Irrelevant said:

OK guys, say something positive about Brissett to bring some solace to me.

 

[CheezyColt]

Y'all are ridiculous. Even if he does breakout in NE, it doesn't make it a bad trade. Just like the Jerry Hughes trade wasn't a bad trade when it was made. For whatever reason, these players weren't working here despite their abundance of potential. We tried and it didn't work. We have a bad backup QB situation here which now, after an entire preseason of whining about why we didn't address it, has been addressed. People already turning on Ballard for trading our #4 or #5 receiver... SMH. 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

He is better than Tolzein and actually a hair better than Morris. there you go.

 

(But thanks for the reply)

[TheJACKCOLT]

This is a stupid trade, brissett didn't even look good in NE system and that is saying a lot, Morris and even Tolzein are better than Brissett. This guy doesn't know the system and can't help us at all, if you can't catch on with the NE coach and system, you have no chance even making the team with Pagano and Chud, if you trade with NE you will get fleeced. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, NorthernBlue said:

Dorsett isn't a bad player. I don't think any sane and logical person will think that honestly. His value just doesn't add up to giving him for a 3rd stringer.

I know that but Dorsett has been ripped to shreds on here and now he's gone and people are freaking out.

[will426]

Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

He is better than Tolzein and actually a hair better than Morris. there you go.

Every qb that plays for NE looks good though. In our system he'd probably look exactly like Morris they've been disrespectful towards him preached competition he was better and still brings in someone else 

[oldunclemark]

Disappointed in this.....Brissett will never play for us 

[Flash7]

Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I know that but Dorsett has been ripped shreds on here and now he's gone and people are freaking out.

No one would be freaking out if the trade was considered even. We traded a starter for a third string NE QB. NE QBs are notorious for being bad once they leave that system. This was a bad trade for the Colts and to me, that's the reason for the freak out.

[stitches]

Just now, oldunclemark said:

Disappointed in this.....Brissett will never play for us 

He will play next week.

[Roger]

29 minutes ago, NorthernBlue said:

Brissett's stats in the preseason:

465 yards. 4 touchdowns. 1 Pick. 103.2 rating. 66 percent completion and ran for a TD. 7.5 yards per average.

 

Keep in mind though it was mostly from the last preseason game against backups.

I saw that exact verbage on Pat's Pulpit when I went to look for some background on Brissett. 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

3 minutes ago, stitches said:

 

 

Gotta be honest, still hearing Bilichicks' evil laughter 

[jvan1973]

34 minutes ago, shakedownstreet said:

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Wow

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, Flash7 said:

No one would be freaking out if the trade was considered even. We traded a starter for a third string NE QB. NE QBs are notorious for being bad once they leave that system. This was a bad trade for the Colts and to me, that's the reason for the freak out.

Well that does makes sense. Brissett doesn't stink though. Maybe Dorsett wasn't in our plans to rebuild. Ballard seems like he is getting rid of a lot Grigs players and laying down his own foundation. I am one of the few that liked Dorsett keep in mind because you cant teach speed but I will trust the process.

[stitches]

Just now, jvan1973 said:

Wow

interesting

[teganslaw]

Many people were criticizing Dorsett; now that he's gone, they're upset. Is it because the trade is with NE?

I don't know much about Brissett, but I wonder what this means for our QB situation now.

[jvan1973]

3 minutes ago, stitches said:

He will play next week.

I highly doubt that.  He has a week to learn the playbook

[Roger]

4 minutes ago, TheJACKCOLT said:

This is a stupid trade, brissett didn't even look good in NE system and that is saying a lot, Morris and even Tolzein are better than Brissett. This guy doesn't know the system and can't help us at all, if you can't catch on with the NE coach and system, you have no chance even making the team with Pagano and Chud, if you trade with NE you will get fleeced. 

I disagree.  The Pats have a complex offense, one that many veteran wide receivers can't learn.  You really think our offense is more complex than the Patriots' offense?  If you do, I disagree with that too.

 

This is a necessary trade.  Have faith in Ballard. 

[jvan1973]

This is a head scratcher.  No way we carry 4 qbs on the 53.  I'm guessing luck is staying on the PUP

[ricker182]

Wow. This franchise is so inept.  

They're lucky they fell into Luck.  

  

Why wouldn't this happen before training camp or at the latest at the start of the preseason?  

  

This also makes it look like Luck is out awhile. 

[Fisticuffs111]

If anybody is surprised by the hate this trade is receiving, just wait until Ballard cuts Morris.

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, jvan1973 said:

This is a head scratcher.  No way we carry 4 qbs on the 53.  I'm guessing luck is staying on the PUP

Could be, we will find in the next 2 hours.

[LJpalmbeacher2]

This probably means Luck will remain on PUP.

I guess we'll know soon.

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

If anybody is surprised by the hate this trade is receiving, just wait until Ballard cuts Morris.

That could also happen, I wont like that at all but I do like Brissett.