Report: Irsay spent 10 hours with Gruden in Texas.

[PeterBowman]

Just now, csmopar said:

I'm still not fully buying into this Well's rumor

I'm not either, but hey it keeps the discussion going.

 

But there seems to be A LOT of smoke out there so we shall see.

[twfish]

A little bit of food for thought. Irsay has gone 6 days without a single tweet.

[csmopar]

Just now, twfish said:

A little bit of food for thought. Irsay has gone 6 days without a single tweet.

thats like going 6 days without sex for a sex addict 

[csmopar]

1 minute ago, PeterBowman said:

I'm not either, but hey it keeps the discussion going.

 

But there seems to be A LOT of smoke out there so we shall see.

yeah this one seems to have some teeth to it, but again, i just dont buy it

[bababooey]

Just now, twfish said:

A little bit of food for thought. Irsay has gone 6 days without a single tweet.

Probably a good thing he's not tweeting classic rock lyrics while the Pats are mauling their way to a 6th consecutive AFC championship.

[buccolts]

At this time, the two questions that cross my mind are....

Does Jim use Tabasco Sauce when he eats Chuck.

Where the heck is JMV today?

[twfish]

1 minute ago, csmopar said:

thats like going 6 days without sex for a sex addict 

 true I figured for sure he would have said something about the national championship though

[Steamboat_Shaun]

3 minutes ago, csmopar said:

I'm still not fully buying into this Well's rumor

 

It's way more entertaining than anything else that happened with this team this year. For that reason alone, I'm giving it credence.

[Steamboat_Shaun]

Just now, buccolts said:

At this time, the two questions that cross my mind are....

Does Jim use Tabasco Sauce when he eats Chuck.

Where the heck is JMV today?

 

I thought I saw there was no show today because of the Pacers game?

[buccolts]

1 minute ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

I thought I saw there was no show today because of the Pacers game?

 

Ah, got it.

Makes sense.

[Mr. Irrelevant]

13 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

He says he has a source. 

Yeah, he obviously has. And it obviously have to be someone fairly close to the decision making process in order to be true. Which is why I don't get why the source would tell him and not the media. Maybe his sister is friends with one of the Irsay daughters or whatever. Interesting...

[csmopar]

3 minutes ago, buccolts said:

At this time, the two questions that cross my mind are....

Does Jim use Tabasco Sauce when he eats Chuck.

Where the heck is JMV today?

JMV cancelled due to pacers game

[csmopar]

3 minutes ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

It's way more entertaining than anything else that happened with this team this year. For that reason alone, I'm giving it credence.

yeah

[Gramz]

It's getting interesting.

[Boiler_Colt]

1 minute ago, buccolts said:

 

Ah, got it.

Makes sense.

I was listening yesterday when he said he was off until Tuesday but did throw in the he may jump on in an emergency situation should something significant happen. Which I thought was an interesting thing to say.

[csmopar]

Just now, Boiler_Colt said:

I was listening yesterday when he said he was off until Tuesday but did throw in the he may jump on in an emergency situation should something significant happen. Which I thought was an interesting thing to say.

i missed that one.  wonder if jmv has a twitter

 

[Colts_Fan12]

I'm not falling for this damn it. I'll believe something when it actually happens. I can't get my hopes up just to see dumb and dumber back next season. 

[PeterBowman]

I will say this, if Gruden is landed, I bet you'll see a big uptick in how disciplined the team is

[Steamboat_Shaun]

1 minute ago, Mr Clueless said:

Yeah, he obviously has. And it obviously have to be someone fairly close to the decision making process in order to be true. Which is why I don't get why the source would tell him and not the media. Maybe his sister is friends with one of the Irsay daughters or whatever. Interesting, if true.

 

I'm guessing the nature of the negotiations is likely pretty fragile, to the point that a media leak could make the whole thing fall through. Since Wells isn't technically in the media, and he's in Canada, maybe they know no large publication is going to run with the story if he's the guy tweeting about it?

[Fisticuffs111]

I've firmly been in the "trying not to get my hopes up" camp, but man, my wishful thinking is rising. Even if the speculation is coming from Brad Wells.

[csmopar]

3 minutes ago, Colts_Fan12 said:

I'm not falling for this damn it. I'll believe something when it actually happens. I can't get my hopes up just to see dumb and dumber back next season. 

i know right?

[MB-ColtsFan]

1 minute ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

I'm guessing the nature of the negotiations is likely pretty fragile, to the point that a media leak could make the whole thing fall through. Since Wells isn't technically in the media, and he's in Canada, maybe they know no large publication is going to run with the story if he's the guy tweeting about it?

Buuuuuttttt...if it's so fragile that a leak could make it all fail...then why tell anyone at all?

I've never understood leaks.  Someone always has to have an agenda when they leak info, otherwise why do it?

[RollerColt]

3 minutes ago, Colts_Fan12 said:

I'm not falling for this damn it. I'll believe something when it actually happens. I can't get my hopes up just to see dumb and dumber back next season. 

I feel like we're hyping this all for nothing. As a desperation move... Kinda like CNN did with the 4Chan fake report... 

 

We're just reaching for anything that could give us solace that next year won't be another year of disappointment. (Which it probably will.)

[Steamboat_Shaun]

5 minutes ago, csmopar said:

i missed that one.  wonder if jmv has a twitter

 

 

He does. He typically doesn't tweet out stuff that he plans on covering on his show though, if he did, there'd be no real point in listening.

[Mr. Irrelevant]

1 minute ago, MB-ColtsFan said:

Buuuuuttttt...if it's so fragile that a leak could make it all fail...then why tell anyone at all?

I've never understood leaks.  Someone always has to have an agenda when they leak info, otherwise why do it?

Exactly. This information doesn't help anybody and a leak would only be put forward by someone that would like the deal to fail. But I still don't trust it.

[Steamboat_Shaun]

2 minutes ago, MB-ColtsFan said:

Buuuuuttttt...if it's so fragile that a leak could make it all fail...then why tell anyone at all?

I've never understood leaks.  Someone always has to have an agenda when they leak info, otherwise why do it?

 

I'm guessing that they're not supposed to be leaking it to anyone. I think that's why all these sources are usually unnamed, if it got out that they were leaking inside info, they'd get fired real quick.

[bababooey]

4 minutes ago, MB-ColtsFan said:

Buuuuuttttt...if it's so fragile that a leak could make it all fail...then why tell anyone at all?

I've never understood leaks.  Someone always has to have an agenda when they leak info, otherwise why do it?

So if a leak can cause the whole thing to crumble and we just return next season with this group, it's not like the execs that just got their vacations short have nothing to worry about.

[Crush22]

5 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

I feel like we're hyping this all for nothing. As a desperation move... Kinda like CNN did with the 4Chan fake report... 

 

We're just reaching for anything that could give us solace that next year won't be another year of disappointment. (Which it probably will.)

[Colts1324]

15 hours ago, superrep1967 said:

So I guess that report that Irsay told Pagano that he is safe was bogus. It sure seems that way at least. 

That's what I am confused about. Everything reports to Irsay still deciding on who is coming back except the report or two that said he was coming back. NFL.com reported it. So either the report about Pagano's job as safe was a lie, Gruden spending 10 hours with Irsay is a lie, or Irsay was drunk and changed his mind lol.

[NewColtsFan]

10 hours ago, Jared Cisneros said:

In today's world, no one would dare pull a racist act like not interviewing a minority doing to race. Also, there's nothing but downside to not interviewing or hiring them anyway. If you refuse to interview them, it will get out and become a public media nightmare. If you refuse to hire a minority coach and they turn out to be really good somewhere else, you are only hurting the team as a GM. Every GM and owner knows there's no upside to doing this anymore and wouldn't dare do it in this day and age, whether they are racist or not.

 

I think if you look around, even with the Rooney rule,  a few coaches were hired, that were big names, slam dunk hires and no one else was interviewed.    The teams basically said "we knew who we wanted and didn't want to waste anyone else's time."      I don't know if they were fined,  but there was no real push back.

 

I think the NFL still views the rule as relevant.     In fact,  I think they're now talking about expanding it to coordinator.       Head Coaches typically come from coordinators,  so if you're an assistant, you need to become a coordinator.      Can't become one if you're not interviewing.     So, the NFL is considering having teams interview minority candidates for those positions as well.

 

 

[Jackie Daytona]

1 minute ago, MB-ColtsFan said:

 

 

1 minute ago, Colts1324 said:

That's what I am confused about. Everything reports to Irsay still deciding on who is coming back except the report or two that said he was coming back. NFL.com reported it. So either the report about Pagano's job as safe was a lie, Gruden spending 10 hours with Irsay is a lie, or Irsay was drunk and changed his mind lol.

That's not really called for, cmon man.

[Fisticuffs111]

I think something else is made pretty clear if this is all actually happening.

 

The Colts are ridiculously good at limiting leaks or just misleading the media in general. One of the more surprising things would be Marvez, Schefter, and Rapaport being wrong about this.
 

[csmopar]

Brad Wells‏@BradWellsNFL

Things can shift. But, it's clear that Irsay wants to make big changes with the Colts. If talks fall through, he'll stick with Grigano.

[Gramz]

1 minute ago, csmopar said:

Brad Wells‏@BradWellsNFL

Things can shift. But, it's clear that Irsay wants to make big changes with the Colts. If talks fall through, he'll stick with Grigano.

Nice cover...  

[Fisticuffs111]

Brad Wells is heavily placing the "don't hate me if it doesn't happen" contingency in place.

It's amusing that it is actually Brad himself who's reminding me why I don't generally trust him.

[PeterBowman]

I was in the comments section on Stampedeblue on a thread and this has been mentioned and I guess Stephen Holder isn't discounting this rumor

[Gramz]

 all this talk is Makin' me crazy  

[Steamboat_Shaun]

 

Jim Osborne, JMV, & Wells all seem to have the same source from what I gather. Make of that what you will, but the stuff that the 3 of them are saying right now in regards to this story is pretty much identical.

[csmopar]

1 minute ago, PeterBowman said:

I was in the comments section on Stampedeblue on a thread and this has been mentioned and I guess Stephen Holder isn't discounting this rumor

[csmopar]

1 minute ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

Jim Osborne, JMV, & Wells all seem to have the same source from what I gather. Make of that what you will, but the stuff that the 3 of them are saying right now in regards to this story is pretty much identical.

So what you're saying is the same person is trolling all 3?