Defjamz26 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 If all of this is true then the Colts need to deactivate him until he's 100%.I'm waiting for the specifics to be released, but the last thing the Colts need is to make something minor a lot worse just to win some games. And seeing as how the OL can't protect him (plus him holding the ball too long), re-injury is likely.If it comes to it, I wouldn't be upset if they deactivated him the rest of the season. But again, I'll have to wait until the specifics come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runthepost Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Based on the fact that they just let Josh Johnson go it doesn't seem to be a concern that he will miss Thursdays game. If that was the case they need Robinson to be Hasselbeck's backupIt's to sign Bradshaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 It's to sign BradshawBradshaw doesn't play qb. No way they go into a game with 1 qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runthepost Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Bradshaw doesn't play qb. No way they go into a game with 1 qbIt's Ryan lol for all we know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restored Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I'm not missing any point. Yes he takes too many hits from behind this crappy o line, but that's not the only time he takes hits. He's took a few shots when trying to tackle this year, he absolutely could have hurt his shoulder on one of those tackle attempts too. It can happen at any time you are correct in that. But considering this problem has been the most glaring issue and is arguably the reason why Luck has gotten hurt, it's fairly obvious what the issue is. And since we are playing this game, what if Luck got hit as he threw which caused the INT because of the bad offensive line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ingolfer Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Bradshaw doesn't play qb. No way they go into a game with 1 qb My point exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Now would be a good time to remind everyone: #FireGrigson Carry on....Why should Grigson be fired for Luck's awkward throwing motion that has been tearing his shoulder apart since college? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider2-Y-Banana Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Bradshaw doesn't play qb. No way they go into a game with 1 qbI heard on the radio they will probably bring Taney up from the PS to back up Hasselbeck now that he's had a few weeks to learn the ropes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everyone Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I heard on the radio they will probably bring Taney up from the PS to back up Hasselbeck now that he's had a few weeks to learn the ropes.If they do that, he has to be paid at least 3 game checks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Why should Grigson be fired for Luck's awkward throwing motion that has been tearing his shoulder apart since college? Huh? What?!? Would you care to document this? Who was talking about Luck's "awkward throwing motion that's been tearing his shoulder apart since college"..?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I heard on the radio they will probably bring Taney up from the PS to back up Hasselbeck now that he's had a few weeks to learn the ropes.Highly doubtful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Luck's Beard Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Yep. It isn't worth the risk of him getting hurt. Even if the Colts lose, the season is still not over. The same can't be said if Andrew goes down.Sit JJ and Foster too. We really don't want to risk anything bad to happen to either of them now, do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Why should Grigson be fired for Luck's awkward throwing motion that has been tearing his shoulder apart since college?You don't get a bruised shoulder from an awkward throwing motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLTS449 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I don't know what subulaxion means LOL. But I don't think this is true. He'll be fine, and if he does miss this Thursday. He will be back to face NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everyone Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 You don't get a bruised shoulder from an awkward throwing motion.If you could, Rivers arm would've fallen off by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRnINDY Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Hope this is all just media pipe smoke. I unfortunately suffer this in HS but no big deal just a bruise (35 yrs ago); however it happened again 9 months later in college. Game over for me at that point. Was told it will continue to happen with more regularity so surgery is best. The range of motion loss is very noticeable and still to this day gets inflammed. Maybe next years draft QB, OL - let's pray not!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I heard on the radio they will probably bring Taney up from the PS to back up Hasselbeck now that he's had a few weeks to learn the ropes.that would make no sense. Why bring Johnson in the first place since Taney was here longer. It's not like Johnson has past history in the Colts system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsBlueFL Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Wow. Sounds like an injury that can easily get worse if aggravated. That means they need to sit him until he's 100 Andrew likely suffered an anterior separation / subluxation - partial to full, from trauma received from repeated falling down on an outstretched throwing arm/hand. Countless times I've seem him 'break his fall' by outstretching the throwing arm/hand when going down to the ground.So while the 'straw that broke the camels back' may well have happened n the Titans game, I feel there was a gradual stetching and/or tearing of the connective tissue in the shoulder area from-Throwing ( a lot!)Direct hitsBreaking his fall from indirect (to that shoulder) hits.Finally, it has given way to some degree. How much and what other damage there is present we don't know. Maybe some of the attending physicians have a clue, but aren't going to leak it. It can be hard to tell the condition of the Labrum when this occurs sometimes.I wouldn't advise anyone trying to guess the severity of the injury or the recovery time. It runs the gamut of a couple weeks to a few months, and people recover at different rates.I just hope it isn't too severe, and some rest and then special exercises bring him back and help keep things in order.I'm sure Andrew will participate in a throwing session very soon (if it hasn't happened already) and the plans for Colts practice and the game Thursday will be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllYouNeedIsLuck Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Hope this is all just media pipe smoke. I unfortunately suffer this in HS but no big deal just a bruise (35 yrs ago); however it happened again 9 months later in college. Game over for me at that point. Was told it will continue to happen with more regularity so surgery is best. The range of motion loss is very noticeable and still to this day gets inflammed. Maybe next years draft QB, OL - let's pray not!!!Loll shut up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgt_rob Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 If you could, Rivers arm would've fallen off by now. Also Matt Stafford and Tim Tebow. Although, I think their arms have already fallen off. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeedrinker Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 You left out qualified...we have several "experts" here, on all subjects. Just so few are actually qualified Hey now.... I resemble that remark. Although, I'm not an expert on shoulder subluxation and here is what I have to say about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhawk Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I still think he was injured at the end of the Bills game and tried to tough it out through the Jets and Titans. i think it may have happened in the Bills game when he creamed the guy on the interception return. there is so much talk about him changing his style of play and rightfully so. he hasn't been the same in game 2 or 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restored Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Why should Grigson be fired for Luck's awkward throwing motion that has been tearing his shoulder apart since college? I'd love to see evidence of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everyone Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 What @chrishaganindy said on #Colts QB Andrew Luck is accurate: He slightly separated his throwing shoulder. No structural damage per source— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) October 5, 2015 Per Rapoport, What @chrishaganindy said on #Colts QB Andrew Luck is accurate: He slightly separated his throwing shoulder. No structural damage per source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycolt1 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 How is it not? Luck has taken the most combined hits and sacks every single year he's been in the league. More times he gets hits=more chances for injury. It's not that hard to figure out.So by that reasoning all NFL players injuries are the GMs fault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Eh. I'm skeptical of believing the team. I mean, they deny the reports of a rift between Pagano and Grigson, they insisted Luck would play last week (and I'm positive they knew all along he would not). It also wouldn't be the first time that we've been light with the truth surrounding injuries. Who remembers Peyton's bursa sac? Or his neck injury for that matter? We also hemmed and hawed with the knee injury Marvin Harrison had in 07 for three quarters of a season. Different regimes, sure, but the tendencies look awfully familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllYouNeedIsLuck Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Eh. I'm skeptical of believing the team. I mean, they deny the reports of a rift between Pagano and Grigson, they insisted Luck would play last week (and I'm positive they knew all along he would not). It also wouldn't be the first time that we've been light with the truth surrounding injuries. Who remembers Peyton's bursa sac? Or his neck injury for that matter? We also hemmed and hawed with the knee injury Marvin Harrison had in 07 for three quarters of a season. Different regimes, sure, but the tendencies look awfully familiar.So you think it's a serious shoulder injury or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider2-Y-Banana Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 that would make no sense. Why bring Johnson in the first place since Taney was here longer. It's not like Johnson has past history in the Colts system.Tanney had been here about 5 days and hes not a Vet. Johnson is a Vet and I believe thats why they wanted yesterday. Bottom line is, if Luck can'y play, and we don't sign another QB, Tanney is the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwiz Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Sit JJ and Foster too. We really don't want to risk anything bad to happen to either of them now, do we? Ha, no, of course not Watt could be missing a leg and BOB still wouldn't be able to stop him from playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsBlueFL Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 To put you mind at ease... it is very unlikely he will need an Op unless it becomes a problem. If it happens once, there is a lot he can do to stop it from become a recurring issue, but if it happens 3/4 times... then he's in trouble. Correct, and the Colts history with Bert Jones describes just this. (Please don't read the following link if you're an eternal optimist where the glass is always full of Blue Kool-Aid) http://www.realclearsports.com/lists/devastating_quarterback_injuries/bert_jones_1978_colts.html Hopefully, Lucks separation was much more minor than Jones. However, if he continues to get hit, and break his fall with his outstretched arm as he does {shudder} I'm not even going there. I'm going to allow them medical team to take precautions to allow Andrew to resume his playing career, And it is not 'this one' I am worried about, but preventing the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt^2 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 What @chrishaganindy said on #Colts QB Andrew Luck is accurate: He slightly separated his throwing shoulder. No structural damage per source— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) October 5, 2015 Per Rapoport, What @chrishaganindy said on #Colts QB Andrew Luck is accurate: He slightly separated his throwing shoulder. No structural damage per source Well *. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBane Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Well, looks like the 53 was filled out with a CB. Unless changes are made over the next 2 days, I'd say Luck is looking like a go for Houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider2-Y-Banana Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Well, looks like the 53 was filled out with a CB. Unless changes are made over the next 2 days, I'd say Luck is looking like a go for Houston.The CB was put on the Practice squad...not put on the 53. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllYouNeedIsLuck Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Well, looks like the 53 was filled out with a CB. Unless changes are made over the next 2 days, I'd say Luck is looking like a go for Houston.Looks that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backshoulderfade Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Eh. I'm skeptical of believing the team. I mean, they deny the reports of a rift between Pagano and Grigson, they insisted Luck would play last week (and I'm positive they knew all along he would not). It also wouldn't be the first time that we've been light with the truth surrounding injuries. Who remembers Peyton's bursa sac? Or his neck injury for that matter? We also hemmed and hawed with the knee injury Marvin Harrison had in 07 for three quarters of a season. Different regimes, sure, but the tendencies look awfully familiar.What franchise would admit tension between coach and GM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backshoulderfade Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 The CB was put on the Practice squad...not put on the 53.Prater was signed to the 53 a few minutes ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOCOLTS_ROLLTIDE Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 If you could, Rivers arm would've fallen off by now.the ugliest throw motion. .. He throws like a girl. ..... literally that's the * most women user lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsBlueFL Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Partial separation- http://cbs4indy.com/2015/10/05/source-andrew-luck-has-partially-separated-shoulder-consulted-out-of-state-experts/ Must get him recovered before trotting hm out there again. and stop landing on an out stretched arm Andrew... better yet, tuck the ball and run or fall down fetal position Peyton style. Live for the next play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider2-Y-Banana Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Prater was signed to the 53 a few minutes ago.Missed that...thanks for the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider2-Y-Banana Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I say start Hasselbeck. I not willing to risk the future of our franchise for a game against the damn Texans. JJ Watt could tear his damn arm completely off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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