MTC Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I'm disagreeing with most of you saying this is a "bad thing" IMO, Davis tweeted the 24 hours for daylight savings time.  I'm kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewbacca Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 He did have 17 passes defensed, 4 pick...1 of which he returned for a td He was targeted the most in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 We can thank the stupid Dolphins for this. That stupid FO overpays for bad and old players. Causing all the really good and young players to ask for way more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shive Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 My only hope is that he wants to gauge his worth in FA as leverage for a deal with us. I think he genuinely wants to stay here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Well hopefully we can resign him, though im about at 50/50 on if we are actually going to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Superman Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 you think we are going after high priced FAs? Be honestI don't know.. I'm not our GM. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleE Colt Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Quite a few people seem to be on Grigsons case about this. Maybe, just maybe Davis was prepared to reject any offer that was put to him because he wants to see what he can get in FA. Negotiations are a 2 way street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I don't know.. I'm not our GM. Lol.I just don't see it happening. But if we do I will be VERY happy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 He was targeted the most in the league.ya got #'s on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaric Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Quite a few people seem to be on Grigsons case about this. Maybe, just maybe Davis was prepared to reject any offer that was put to him because he wants to see what he can get in FA. Negotiations are a 2 way street.We also don't know what he's asking for. He could think he's Revis (16m a year). I think all of us want him here, but do you really want to pay 11, 12, maybe 13m a year for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLTS449 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 If we signed Verner we would most likely change our Scheme from press man to zone coverage, so he's probably out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Dzienkiewicz Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 colts should pursue verner one way or other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 colts should pursue verner one way or other I thought he was a good sign but he don't fit or man coverage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colts_100nascar17fan Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Let him walk if he wants shut down corner money,he is not anything close to a shut down. I wouldn't give him more than 5-6 mil year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Maybe he wants to play on SF, w/his brother, and was inclined to reject anything from the colts.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Let him walk if he wants shut down corner money,he is not anything close to a shut down. I wouldn't give him more than 5-6 mil year. ok whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bavanlan Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Maybe he wants to play on SF, w/his brother, and was inclined to reject anything from the colts. Or maybe we've agreed to let him test the market as long as we get a chance to match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Okay last time I said this about a player it turned out we signed Pat today so hopefully I have the same "luck" with this. Colts fans better brace themselves for Davis leaving. I have a feeling Grigson has figured out a dollar amount he thinks Davis is worth. I think it's below the franchise tag level which is why I think Grigson didn't tag him. I think Davis thinks he's worth more than that. So I am guessing the two sides wont budge. We'll see what happens when he hits the market. If a team is willing to come up to what he wants he could very well be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#BringBobBack Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 hope we dont overpay him if so 8 mil a year is as high as i would go i would much rather tarell brown for cheaper still a solid corner who could start and be effective alongside a decent pass rush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick_Rick Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 So, what position do you think is more important that we improve? Since you think that CB is one that we can weaken and still get by?LB, DL, Safety. My point is that I don't believe that Vontae is worth the amount of cap space he will take. He is too up and down right now. If we don't improve the pass rush, he is not going to be an elite CB anyway, why should he be paid like one? My point has been this whole time is that with an improved pass rush, flaws in the secondary can be covered. You don't need an elite CB to win a Super Bowl. We let Alex Smith put up 44 on us because we weren't able to rush the passer. Someone mentioned that we had the Sack leader in Mathis. Yea, that's great, but in games where he does get shut down a bit, our secondary Davis included is exploited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#BringBobBack Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 LB, DL, Safety. My point is that I don't believe that Vontae is worth the amount of cap space he will take. He is too up and down right now. If we don't improve the pass rush, he is not going to be an elite CB anyway, why should he be paid like one? My point has been this whole time is that with an improved pass rush, flaws in the secondary can be covered. You don't need an elite CB to win a Super Bowl. We let Alex Smith put up 44 on us because we weren't able to rush the passer. Someone mentioned that we had the Sack leader in Mathis. Yea, that's great, but in games where he does get shut down a bit, our secondary Davis included is exploited.this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestQBever Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 apparently, Davis is looking for 8+ million a year  contract. And I don't mean 8 mill or greater, I mean greater than 8 mill.  http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5089/vontae-davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runthepost Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 If he leaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runthepost Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 5 years 45 to 55 million is what he wants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmac_48 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 You can't fault the kid for seeing what market value he will bring.He's young and in his prime, got a chance for his first big payday.Maybe his only chance at the big bucks.Why should he sell himself short?Hopefully he will give the Colts the chance to match what the market says he is worth. Really it is as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 5 years 45 to 55 million is what he wants Is there a link for this, or is this your guess? Just asking........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runthepost Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Is there a link for this, or is this your guess?Just asking........He wants more than brent grimes who is geting 8 mil a year.. so its a guess of the range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewbacca Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 ya got #'s on that? Rotoworld had a blurb about it... " Williams graded out as Pro Football Focus' No. 92 corner out of 110 qualifiers in terms of coverage but was targeted the most times." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLILLINGTON10 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Denver just cut Champ Bailey and they are letting Decker go too. They could make room. So could the 49ers.I don't think releasing Champ was a huge relief on their cap and i know Decker wasn't cause he was still in his rookie contract.... he was only paid like 700K last year. (i am aware i said only paid since that is still a whole lot of money) As for the 49ers i am not sure how close they are to the cap or what they are doing... just don't think of them as needing a corner they need more offense to get by Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsFTW Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I'm not sure sure what their rankings are exactly but just guessing would you rather have a top 5 safety as in Byrd or top 10 corner as in Davis? That may be the situation we find ourselves in. Would people be happy with Byrd and Shields, assuming we could sign him? Could waiting until Sat backfire on Davis? As in the Colts get good indications they could get Byrd and Shields? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azcolt Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Davis' history will surely scare some teams when considering a long term, big bucks contract offer. Maybe he has grown up but his history of dogging it in college and with the Fins can't help him out now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gacker65 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 That's your perrogative. And that's fine, I'm just saying, you don't break the bank for a cb, when there are many other pressing needs. I never said that we would play with crappy corners. I will say that you don't win a Super Bowl without a pass rush. I mean, Vontae was on the field when Andre had 3 tds in the first half with Case Keenum throwing him the ball. A pass rush makes a bigger difference than you are letting on.That says a lot about how bad your DBs are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgt_rob Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I always loved how Vontae talks. Â http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtED_cuAZ90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Superman Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Davis wants more then Grimes.. So give him a nickel more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Superman Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I always loved how Vontae talks. Â http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtED_cuAZ90You mean his lisp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauregarde Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I don't think releasing Champ was a huge relief on their cap and i know Decker wasn't cause he was still in his rookie contract.... he was only paid like 700K last year. (i am aware i said only paid since that is still a whole lot of money) As for the 49ers i am not sure how close they are to the cap or what they are doing... just don't think of them as needing a corner they need more offense to get by Seattle.I don't know what Champ was last year but he was going to be a big hit this year ($10 million). That is why he was cut. They are also going to let Moreno go although he was on his rookie contract too. Peyton will probably restructure his deal either this year or next year or possibly both years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bavanlan Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I'm not sure sure what their rankings are exactly but just guessing would you rather have a top 5 safety as in Byrd or top 10 corner as in Davis? That may be the situation we find ourselves in. In this defense?  It's CB by a long-shot.  Doesn't have to be Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS Colts Fan Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 would Love the Byrd/Sheilds combo.. that would make us soo much better..  I agree that Grigson has a tipping point, but this one puzzles me in that he seems to continue to overpay for FA...  and then bring in our current draft situation with no #1 or #4 pick.... I'm sure they have a game plan ...time will tell...  if we loose him it will be interesting ti see why... I don't think he is a top 5 corner and that seems to be the money he is looking for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLILLINGTON10 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I don't know what Champ was last year but he was going to be a big hit this year ($10 million). That is why he was cut. They are also going to let Moreno go although he was on his rookie contract too. Peyton will probably restructure his deal either this year or next year or possibly both years.You are correct, for some reason i thought Champ's cap relief was only 1 million... i guess i missed a zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iancolts Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Byrd and shield would be a nice combo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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