Shepman Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I lost where I just saw this I believe it was through my google alerts, but it was rumoring trade of Darren McFadden for Brown and 4th round pick. Can't find the source so don't ask and I can't find anything on twitter to back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoKeR Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 What? Why would anybody trade McFadden for Brown and a 4th rounder? Not sure if even Al Davis would do such a thing. My figures are crossed, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Still won't matter if we don't fix the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 if anyone would do this, its oakland lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamColt Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Darren McFadden would be a great pickup but the O-line needs some real work if they expect him to get any yards in this offense other than screens and checkdowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Mcfadden and his 26 carries for 54 yards? no thanks 54 yards suck he is terrible! a bumb! how was the guy so good in college?! he isn't an NFL caliber running back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewholefnshow28 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 LOL! The Raiders are not going to trade Darren McFadden for Brown and a 4th. Brown is commodity in this league that is basically worthless and I do not see a guy who is potentially a top tier RB in this league if he stays healthy being traded for a 4th rounder.I love McFadden's ability and he would immediately be an upgrade over any of our RBs, but our OL is practically worthless so he would struggle as well. What they need to do is not invest top picks in RBs like the Brown and just develop that line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzer40 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 This sounds like one of those dumb trade rumors that some nobody on twitter would start. It makes no sense what so ever and unlike a lot of the fans, Grigson and Pagano actually know that bringing in a different RB isn't going to make one bit of difference in our running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFClipboardHolder Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 if Grigs pulls this off, hes worth every penny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 LOL! The Raiders are not going to trade Darren McFadden for Brown and a 4th. Brown is commodity in this league that is basically worthless and I do not see a guy who is potentially a top tier RB in this league if he stays healthy being traded for a 4th rounder.I love McFadden's ability and he would immediately be an upgrade over any of our RBs, but our OL is practically worthless so he would struggle as well. What they need to do is not invest top picks in RBs like the Brown and just develop that line.Brown was projected by many to be the 2nd or 3rd running back taken in 2009 and had one heck of a college career including 18 touchdowns in 2008, 267 yards in 1 game and 2083 yards in 2008, I dont see him as worthless, if anything is worthless (as starters in the NFL) then its the entire right side of our O Line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBlu8792 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Brown was projected by many to be the 2nd or 3rd running back taken in 2009 and had one heck of a college career including 18 touchdowns in 2008, 267 yards in 1 game and 2083 yards in 2008, I dont see him as worthless, if anything is worthless (as starters in the NFL) then its the entire right side of our O LineHe played at..... Connecticut. Connecticut played against way lower level college football teams. Its not like the guy was racking up yards in the SEC or Big 10. I am by no means saying he's not good, but Polian made a HUGE reach when he went for Donald Brown.Regarding McFadden, the guy is a major threat out of the backfield running or catching passes. The problem in Oakland isn't him. Thank god we can pin point our issues here with it primarily being the right side of our O-line, but Oakland has way more problems than just their O-line. Palmer is struggling bad and teams are virtually stacking the box making him pass the ball. Their receivers (Heyword-Bey and Moore) are average at best, and obviously there is their O-line. I would take McFadden in a heartbeat for Brown and a 4th, but I highly doubt that rumor is even close to being real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhawk Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I'd say that's borderline preposterous, but that would be a flagrant misuse of the word "borderline." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 He played at..... Connecticut. Connecticut played against way lower level college football teams. Its not like the guy was racking up yards in the SEC or Big 10. I am by no means saying he's not good, but Polian made a HUGE reach when he went for Donald Brown.Regarding McFadden, the guy is a major threat out of the backfield running or catching passes. The problem in Oakland isn't him. Thank god we can pin point our issues here with it primarily being the right side of our O-line, but Oakland has way more problems than just their O-line. Palmer is struggling bad and teams are virtually stacking the box making him pass the ball. Their receivers (Heyword-Bey and Moore) are average at best, and obviously there is their O-line. I would take McFadden in a heartbeat for Brown and a 4th, but I highly doubt that rumor is even close to being real.Well its about where you went to school freeman bethea Mathis and Freeney might as well stop showing up since none of them went to a big football school they must just not have talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 He played at..... Connecticut. Connecticut played against way lower level college football teams. Its not like the guy was racking up yards in the SEC or Big 10. I am by no means saying he's not good, but Polian made a HUGE reach when he went for Donald Brown.Regarding McFadden, the guy is a major threat out of the backfield running or catching passes. The problem in Oakland isn't him. Thank god we can pin point our issues here with it primarily being the right side of our O-line, but Oakland has way more problems than just their O-line. Palmer is struggling bad and teams are virtually stacking the box making him pass the ball. Their receivers (Heyword-Bey and Moore) are average at best, and obviously there is their O-line. I would take McFadden in a heartbeat for Brown and a 4th, but I highly doubt that rumor is even close to being real.we should fix our O Line and then give Brown a fair shot before we start dumping on him, keep in mind Brown only has 25 carries so far, I think we should wait another year or two after we get our O Line fixed before we start saying we need a new running back if Oakland did that based on Mcfaddens #'s this year some ticked off raiders fan would burn the stadium to the ground not to mention there would be a riot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBlu8792 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Well its about where you went to school freeman bethea Mathis and Freeney might as well stop showing up since none of them went to a big football school they must just not have talent. You missed my point. Bethea was drafted in the 6th round. Freeney, having played at Syracuse (ACC) is a way better football program than playing in the Big East. It would have been like Mathis being drafted in the end of the first/top of the second because he set the college sack record, 20 1/2 I believe, playing at Alabama A&M. Mathis was drafted in the 4th. Again, none of those guys were a reach with the exception of maybe Freeney due to his size but he played in a decent football conference. Mathis and Bethea were drafted way later and have exceeded expectations tremendously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smittywerb Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Stupid trade if we don't fix our O-Line. Let's get an O-line first before we think about upgrading our RB. This rumor can't be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 You missed my point. Bethea was drafted in the 6th round. Freeney, having played at Syracuse (ACC) is a way better football program than playing in the Big East. It would have been like Mathis being drafted in the end of the first/top of the second because he set the college sack record, 20 1/2 I believe, playing at Alabama A&M. Mathis was drafted in the 4th. Again, none of those guys were a reach with the exception of maybe Freeney due to his size but he played in a decent football conference. Mathis and Bethea were drafted way later and have exceeded expectations tremendously.When Freeney was in school cuse was in the same big east you are trashing brown for playing in at school. Don't give me the acc thing because that just happened this year. You missed my point it's not about where you went to school it's about how much talent you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jskinnz Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 This would be a monumentally poor trade for the Colts to make. The problem is the o'line and that would be a problem for McFadden too. I think Ballard is a player who has not yet gotten a chance and I think Brown is not nearly as bad as others. On top of that draft picks are becoming a scarce commodity for the Colts.No way the Colts make this move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I don't really know what we've got in the RB department, but as the O line gets healthy and Trai hopefully exceeds expectations they won't have to waste snaps to keep the D honest with unproductive runs. I see no reason to make this move honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Stupid trade if we don't fix our O-Line. Let's get an O-line first before we think about upgrading our RB. This rumor can't be true.Stupid for them, maybe, but how is that stupid for us at all???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoKeR Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 This would be a monumentally poor trade for the Colts to make. The problem is the o'line and that would be a problem for McFadden too. I think Ballard is a player who has not yet gotten a chance and I think Brown is not nearly as bad as others. On top of that draft picks are becoming a scarce commodity for the Colts.No way the Colts make this move.McFadden is still a upgrade over Brown and is about as good of a player one could hope for , for a 4th round pick. But yeah the biggest problem is our Oline and this trade rumor just sounds unrealistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBlu8792 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 When Freeney was in school cuse was in the same big east you are trashing brown for playing in at school. Don't give me the acc thing because that just happened this year. I stand corrected and completely forgot about that. However, as I said in my previous post I never said Brown wasn't talented. I'm merely stating that what he did in college, in a non-powerhouse conference, is about the equivalent of Polian drafting Mathis in the first or second round because of what he did at Alabama A&M. My point, and my opinion, is that Polian reached on Brown for what he did in college. And yes the Big East now, like it was back then, is trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBlu8792 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 When Freeney was in school cuse was in the same big east you are trashing brown for playing in at school. Don't give me the acc thing because that just happened this year. Freeney was WIDELY regarded as a reach pick, but thank god he turned out to be the player he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiler_Colt Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Why don't we just trade Justin King for McFadden straight up? That's a logical trade right? Even if this were true, not even McFadden would look good behind this O-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#12 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Stupid for them, maybe, but how is that stupid for us at all????He's 25 and makes 5.6 million this year, 5.8 million next year, so, I don't know. If you're going for a RB, the 4th rounder is no big deal. A 4th rounder got you Delone Carter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownColt Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 is this a fantasy football thread? because thats all im seeing when I looked it up was fantasy teams trading McFadden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltswarriors Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 This has to be 100% made up. Not even the Raiders are that stupid.But if on the off chance they're offering this, take it in a heart beat LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fvantagio Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 It is possible, highly unlikely. But it is possible due to a few reasons. The raiders have switched to a zone blocking scheme and Mcfadden has averaged 2 ypc. He simply doesnt fit the system. Coincidentally Brown doesnt fit our system but fits Oaklands. Plus...it is Oakland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Every trade rumor regarding Mcfadden that I have seen in Google relates between Jan. and March well before the season even started. If there were any rumors they don't seem to be recent at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Shoe Heaven Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 McFadden is still a upgrade over Brown and is about as good of a player one could hope for , for a 4th round pick. But yeah the biggest problem is our Oline and this trade rumor just sounds unrealistic. Agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betheafan41 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Ironically a buddy of mine who lives in oakland and is a big raiders fan mentioned this to me yesterday. said that it was talked about on the local radio station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-B Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Sounds like a bad fantasy football trade, bad for the Raiders that is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS Colts Fan Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 checked everysite I know and have found nothing !! Raiders picked up DB/CB Brandian Ross from the Packers PS that's it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoKeR Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Sounds like a bad fantasy football trade, bad for the Raiders that isI like your avatar Bryce, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony1831 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 as big of a deal irsay made about trading for davis, don't you think we would have been seeing his famous tweets even if there were the smallest possibiltiy of this trade going down?.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tark The Shark Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I doubt this is even real. I would love to get Run-DMC, but even the Raiders wouldn't be that stupid.Although the Raiders did give up their draft last year and this year for Carson Palmer and they could use more draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS Colts Fan Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 yea, but that was the old regime.. don't see them doing crazy things like that again... but they don;t seem to be happy with his production as of now..Crazy things happen, but I don't see it and I agree with Tony1831.. Isray could not keep himself off his tweets if this was a remote possibilty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfunky14 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 McFadden is made of glass, he gets hurt too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buccolts Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 You missed my point. Bethea was drafted in the 6th round. Freeney, having played at Syracuse (ACC) is a way better football program than playing in the Big East. It would have been like Mathis being drafted in the end of the first/top of the second because he set the college sack record, 20 1/2 I believe, playing at Alabama A&M. Mathis was drafted in the 4th. Again, none of those guys were a reach with the exception of maybe Freeney due to his size but he played in a decent football conference. Mathis and Bethea were drafted way later and have exceeded expectations tremendously.Jerry Rice?Small school, big numbers against lesser competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 If this trade were serious/true, I think the Colts would do it so fast before the Raiders realized what a foolish trade it would be.But I seriously doubt it's true.What's in it for the Raiders? McFadden is considered a top-10 back, his only problem is staying healthy. The only reason to trade him is to get quality pieces in return, and sorry, Brown and a #4 could not be sold to the Raiders fans. It would be seen as a sign that the Raiders are giving up on this season now. Fans might stop coming to games -- seriously.And from a Colt's stand point, sure it would be great to get McFadden, but if there are no holes to run through, then there are no holes to run through -- period.This seems like one of those Internet rumors that goes no where..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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