Colts Select Laiatu Latu Edge UCLA

[AKB]

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I really wanted an explosive offensive weapon but it just didn’t fall colts way. If they add an offensive weapon in the second it will probably just be a complimentary piece. 

you must support everything Ballard does, or go somewhere else. 

[boo2202]

7 minutes ago, csmopar said:

Thought you announced you was leaving? Why are you still here after creating an entire thread saying you were leaving? How can we trust a person who doesn’t follow through on his words within minutes of posting them?

 

asking for a friend

Awww you care… thank you 

[colts89]

2 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

Seriously guys, Edge was a need no one was talking about. Last year we had a lot of sacks but not a lot of pressures. Plus Paye and Dayo are FAs next year m, but neither has cracked more than 8.5 sacks.

Sacks are just pressures that were finalized, no? The fact is that Paye/Dayo, who are a 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder respectively, are being demoted in the depth chart for this guy, which is what originally annoyed me with this pick as this essentially indicates that the front office missed on these guys (and Banagou). I don't know much about Latu himself or his talent, so I hope Ballard finally got this one right 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

3 minutes ago, masterlock said:

Not if the Colts plan to extend Dayo at the end of the season. 

Paye is the one in trouble 

[GoColts8818]

1 minute ago, masterlock said:

Not if the Colts plan to extend Dayo at the end of the season. 

That’s my point, this pick tells me that I think they are going to let Dayo walk.  Dayo was supposed to be the pass rusher of the two ends in that draft.  Paye was known for not being a pass rusher when he was drafted and was known for doing everything else really well.  What you’ve seen in the NFL is pretty much what you saw from Paye in college.  

[JediXMan]

1 minute ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I really wanted an explosive offensive weapon but it just didn’t fall colts way. If they add an offensive weapon in the second it will probably just be a complimentary piece. 

 

Raiders got selfish they don't even got a QB it is what it is.

[w87r]

1 minute ago, krunk said:

I think Paye still gets resigned. Will let Ebukam go next season

No need 

 

Ekubam and Latu, will only take up $15m.

 

Even picking up Paye's 5th year at $13m

 

That's only $28m at DE, about the price of 1 elite guy.

 

Still can add money for Dayo as well.

[James]

 

[Stephen]

7 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

Seriously guys, Edge was a need no one was talking about. Last year we had a lot of sacks but not a lot of pressures. Plus Paye and Dayo are FAs next year m, but neither has cracked more than 8.5 sacks.

That's  because  we didn't  think top edge would fall to us

[boo2202]

8 minutes ago, csmopar said:

Thought you announced you was leaving? Why are you still here after creating an entire thread saying you were leaving? How can we trust a person who doesn’t follow through on his words within minutes of posting them?

 

asking for a friend

 

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Paye is the one in trouble 

He won’t be back next year. We just took another swing after a first round miss. 

[DougDew]

2 minutes ago, csmopar said:

Was he the kid that had blood clots show up on his chest X-ray? Can’t remember who that was, I heard it on nfl radio on a road trip last week

IDK, it was the first I heard of him being medically flagged by some.

[Defjamz26]

Once Bowers was gone, all bets were off. I get people wanted a WR or CB, but the Colts got the most productive pass rusher in the draft and best overall by every notable metric.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Can we laugh at what falcons did. 

[AKB]

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Can we laugh at what falcons did. 

no, they removed the laugh emoji 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, AKB said:

no, they removed the laugh emoji 

[ProblChld32]

50 minutes ago, w87r said:

You know Coach Partridge was integral in this selection.

 

 

Paye could be moved, potentially during the draft? Doubt they pick his option up now.

 

Or Dayo?

With Dayo’s ability to kick inside I doubt he’s a trade candidate. 

[twfish]

I’m pretty happy here. I really had 3 people I was wanting at 15, Bowers, Mitchell and Latu. I would have talked myself into BTJ but felt like he was going to be redundant, and would have been fine with Arnold too. Bowers being gone, and having a feeling the front office wasn’t going to invest super early on a position they have already invested in recently. 
 

It does make me laugh though, reading these negative post from members I don’t recognize repeating talking points anyone who’s followed the draft already know. How can you be so negative when you haven’t watched a second of film?

[AKB]

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

😪

[07dleigh]

The fact, though, that we didn’t trade back tells that we didn’t have any other CB or EDGE ranked anywhere near him. 
 

Interesting… wanna hear Chris talk about this one. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Seems teams didn’t like the corner backs that much to take in first. Could colts take kool laid.

[James]

5 minutes ago, Stephen said:

Put turners beside  his for comparison  sake 

 

Turner nowhere near.

[DougDew]

2 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

That’s my point, this pick tells me that I think they are going to let Dayo walk.  Dayo was supposed to be the pass rusher of the two ends in that draft.  Paye was known for not being a pass rusher when he was drafted and was known for doing everything else really well.  What you’ve seen in the NFL is pretty much what you saw from Paye in college.  

Dayo was like 6'5 and 280 coming out of college.  He's actually built like a 3T, and plays inside a lot.  Paye works fine as an LDE.  A bit disappointing for pick 21, but that's water under the bridge at this point.

[ProblChld32]

If he stays healthy and produces to TJ Watt which is his NFL comparison. The pick automatically becomes an A+ . The Health is the big If tho.

[GoColts8818]

2 minutes ago, 07dleigh said:

The fact, though, that we didn’t trade back tells that we didn’t have any other CB or EDGE ranked anywhere near him. 
 

Interesting… wanna hear Chris talk about this one. 

I mean he was the top defensive player on their board who fills maybe your biggest need on defense.  Sitting at 15 you just make the pick if that happens.  Sometimes it’s best not to over think things and not get greedy.  

[07dleigh]

Just now, 07dleigh said:

The fact, though, that we didn’t trade back tells that we didn’t have any other CB or EDGE ranked anywhere near him. 
 

Interesting… wanna hear Chris talk about this one. 

well no.. not quite. I’m assuming. Maybe no wanted to swap. 

[Defjamz26]

4 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

“Edge was need nobody was talking about” ??    Really?    I’ve been talking about it for months.  
 

Haven’t many posters been screaming for more pressures?   You don’t think Latu can bring more pressure?   Sorry, I confess I’m surprised at this perspective.  

No you misunderstand my friend.

 

Im saying people should be more excited for the pick. Edge was a legit need. I like the pick personally. It just seems everyone thought the biggest needs were WR, CB, and Safety.

[cbear]

53 minutes ago, nsurg said:

So he had a cervical fusion... this is a surgery I do frequently.  Once it heals the surgery is more or less the strongest part of the neck.  The biggest problems with a fusion in this context are:

(1) loss of nerve function prior to surgery may or may not recover after surgery, usually over the next 3-12 months (but his production after surgery implies no major concern on this)

(2) the patient will have somewhat accelerated wear/arthritis at non fused levels.  While this is a real concern, it will unfortunately be more of an issue for him later in life, after his NFL career.

 

Peyton had this surgery as his final neck surgery before playing for the broncos, but his problem was number one above, he apparently never had the same arm strength as before.

Ahmad Bradshaw also had this same surgery in 2013, he already had I think 6 years of RB play prior to that.  His YPC held up but was utilized less, but this may mirror more a tapering RB career.

 

I'm not personally worried about the medical status of this player, but I have no idea the actual details obviously.  I will say that very few surgeons would be eager to clear the player to play afterwards, mostly for the stupid liability things in medicine.

 

I think it's fair to say we got a really nice pick here for value.

Thanks, and you'd better be a real doctor! 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Worthy I bet goes goes to KC. 
 

Thia draft doesn’t seem very deep after the first round.

[IinD]

8 minutes ago, Goatface Killah said:

Whats wrong with having a great defensive line with tons of quality depth?

Don't be dumb, you know everyone's gotta have 20+ sacks a season and never miss a snap over a 15 year career to be considered an 'average' DE around here.

[2006Coltsbestever]

5 minutes ago, AKB said:

no, they removed the laugh emoji 

Not quite and Homer says so 

[compuls1v3]

1 hour ago, Captain_Colts1317 said:

Can’t deny the talent. Has top 5 talent if not for the injury concerns. I don’t mind the pick here. If it works out you got a high end edge rusher that everyone here complains about not happening. Pass rush also helps the secondary. 

Exactly.  Remember Sweat?

[GoColts8818]

10 minutes ago, Goatface Killah said:

Kwity Paye and Dayo Odeyingbo are both very good football players. 

 

Whats wrong with having a great defensive line with tons of quality depth?

That means not complaining about what Ballard did which is what this poster was going to do regardless of the pick.  Pretty easy to tell if you read the poster’s posts.  He just wants to rail on Ballard so fine rail.

[Indianapolis-Colts-Fan]

I don’t see Paye or Dayo as misses

[coltsfeva]

The thing that ticked me off was Q Mitchell ( who I was hoping for), and I can’t stand the Eagles!!

But, I’m just gonna wait and see…and pray…

[Stephen]

Just now, Indianapolis-Colts-Fan said:

I don’t see Paye or Dayo as misses

If if you were expecting  Mathis and freeney 

[DougDew]

3 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

No you misunderstand my friend.

 

Im saying people should be more excited for the pick. Edge was a legit need. I like the pick personally. It just seems everyone thought the biggest needs were WR, CB, and Safety.

EDGE was always the clear 1st need, IMO.  Ebukam is only a stop gap.  There is a bigger pure vacancy at FS, if you assume Cross is a SS, but That position can be more easily filled.  And this Latu pick has long term implications.

[krunk]

2 minutes ago, w87r said:

No need 

 

Ekubam and Latu, will only take up $15m.

 

Even picking up Paye's 5th year at $13m

 

That's only $28m at DE, about the price of 1 elite guy.

 

Still can add money for Dayo as well.

Ebukam is a free agent. You know Ballard isn't letting one of his draft picks out the door for a guy on a short term contract. And Dayo is more of an interior lineman who can play edge. He isn't a full time edge. I don't think we ever were fooled by what Paye was when we drafted him. We knew he wasn't a high sack player. Both of the edges in this D don't have to be high sack guys. One guy can be more of the run stuffer. And the other guy more of the high sack guy. It's good if you can get big numbers out of both but one of them is the more run stuff specialist.

[ProblChld32]

6 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Seems teams didn’t like the corner backs that much to take in first. Could colts take kool laid.

He’s a Slot CB not a boundary CB. They just locked up K-Mo so I doubt it. Would rather have Wiggins over him .

[Stephen]

Just now, coltsfeva said:

The thing that ticked me off was Q Mitchell ( who I was hoping for), and I can’t stand the Eagles!!

But, I’m just gonna wait and see…and pray…

No brian thomas  jr to the jags is what ticked me off

[Goatface Killah]

Just now, IinD said:

Don't be dumb, you know everyone's gotta have 20+ sacks a season and never miss a snap over a 15 year career to be considered an 'average' DE around here.

Yeah no doubt.

 

We had 4 guys in the top 37 in sacks last year, which means they are in the top 1/3 of all starting DL, league wide, in sacks.

 

And 2 of those guys people are calling "misses"

 

Make it make sense......