Colts Select Laiatu Latu Edge UCLA

[craigerb]

11 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

If Colts add an offensive weapon in the second it will probably just be a complimentary piece. 

Flattery will get us nowhere.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

[compuls1v3]

Just now, DougDew said:

EDGE was always the clear 1st need, IMO.  Ebukam is only a stop gap.  There is a bigger pure vacancy at FS, if you assume Cross is a SS, but That position can be more easily filled.  And this Latu pick has long term implications.

Is it safe to say you liked the pick?  Just curious.  I did.

[GoColts8818]

Just now, krunk said:

Ebukam is a free agent. You know Ballard isn't letting one of his draft picks out the door for a guy on a short term contract. And Dayo is more of an interior lineman who can play edge. He isn't a full time edge. I don't think we ever were fooled by what Paye was when we drafted him. We knew he wasn't a high sack player. Both of the edges in this D don't have to be high sack guys. One guy can be more of the run stuffer. And the other guy more of the high sack guy. It's good if you can get big numbers out of both but one of them is the more run stuff specialist.

He let his first ever draft pick leave after four years.  He doesn’t just automatically re-sign all his high picks.  

[smittywerb]

1 hour ago, ArmchairQB said:

Is this an admission of failure on Paye?  They literally had their pick of any defensive player in this draft and they go EDGE again?!   I’m losing my patience with Ballard. 
 

appears the Vikings were shocked as well. 

I said it before. Paye is the weak link on the line.  Ebukam, Buck, and Grover all ranked in the top 20 in pass and/or run win rate.  Qwitty was the only one who didn’t place top 20 in either.  

[Zoltan]

1 hour ago, nsurg said:

So he had a cervical fusion... this is a surgery I do frequently.  Once it heals the surgery is more or less the strongest part of the neck.  The biggest problems with a fusion in this context are:

(1) loss of nerve function prior to surgery may or may not recover after surgery, usually over the next 3-12 months (but his production after surgery implies no major concern on this)

(2) the patient will have somewhat accelerated wear/arthritis at non fused levels.  While this is a real concern, it will unfortunately be more of an issue for him later in life, after his NFL career.

 

Peyton had this surgery as his final neck surgery before playing for the broncos, but his problem was number one above, he apparently never had the same arm strength as before.

Ahmad Bradshaw also had this same surgery in 2013, he already had I think 6 years of RB play prior to that.  His YPC held up but was utilized less, but this may mirror more a tapering RB career.

 

I'm not personally worried about the medical status of this player, but I have no idea the actual details obviously.  I will say that very few surgeons would be eager to clear the player to play afterwards, mostly for the stupid liability things in medicine.

 

I think it's fair to say we got a really nice pick here for value.

Thanks for sharing 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Bills and chiefs will probably both take a WR. Worthy would be a good for KC.

[Goatface Killah]

3 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

That means not complaining about what Ballard did which is what this poster was going to do regardless of the pick.  Pretty easy to tell if you read the poster’s posts.  He just wants to rail on Ballard so fine rail.

I admit, I didnt read his previous posts.

 

I  get so comfused as to why so many people just seem to have no interest in finding a positive thing to say, like ever. 

[craigerb]

13 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Can we laugh at what falcons did. 

LOL.

[The Oopty Oop]

If you said pre draft we are gonna get the best the pass rusher in the draft(in the Colts organizations opinion) at #15 it feels like we nailed it 🤷🏻‍♂️.

[Goatface Killah]

2 minutes ago, smittywerb said:

I said it before. Paye is the weak link on the line.  Ebukam, Buck, and Grover all ranked in the top 20 in pass and/or run win rate.  Qwitty was the only one who didn’t place top 20 in either.  

You have to be in the top 20 to be good enough? 

[DougDew]

Just now, compuls1v3 said:

Is it safe to say you liked the pick?  Just curious.  I did.

I thought all of the options were good options, even a RT.  Would have been disappointed if we picked DeJean at 15.

 

Yes, I like the pick because it sets us up with long term solutions at the three most important positions on an NFL team, QB, LT, and EDGE, so things fell right for us.  And we have Paye for the other side.

 

As far as Latu specifically, I am concerned about his bend.  From the tape, he seems to run around the OTs sort of straight up instead of ducking around them.  But I may not be seeing it right.  But yes, I like the pick.

[craigerb]

13 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Seems teams didn’t like the corner backs that much to take in first. Could colts take kool laid.

That's what she said !

[GoColts8818]

pretty safe to say the Colts knew this guy.

[compuls1v3]

1 minute ago, DougDew said:

I thought all of the options were good options, even a RT.  Would have been disappointed if we picked DeJean at 15.

 

Yes, I like the pick because it sets us up with long term solutions at the three most important positions on an NFL team, QB, LT, and EDGE, so things fell right for us.  And we have Paye for the other side.

 

As far as Latu specifically, I am concerned about his bend.  From the tape, he seems to run around the OTs sort of straight up instead of ducking around them.  But I may not be seeing it right.  But yes, I like the pick.

Hopefully with his traits he can be coached up too!

[GoColts8818]

3 minutes ago, Goatface Killah said:

I admit, I didnt read his previous posts.

 

I  get so comfused as to why so many people just seem to have no interest in finding a positive thing to say, like ever. 

You and me both.  Some just work really hard at being unhappy and then want others to be unhappy with them.

[krunk]

Dag gon it! Brian Thomas to the Jags

[richard pallo]

Just now, GoColts8818 said:

pretty safe to say the Colts knew this guy.

So much for reading to much into visits.

[Blueblood23]

7 minutes ago, krunk said:

Ebukam is a free agent. You know Ballard isn't letting one of his draft picks out the door for a guy on a short term contract. And Dayo is more of an interior lineman who can play edge. He isn't a full time edge. I don't think we ever were fooled by what Paye was when we drafted him. We knew he wasn't a high sack player. Both of the edges in this D don't have to be high sack guys. One guy can be more of the run stuffer. And the other guy more of the high sack guy. It's good if you can get big numbers out of both but one of them is the more run stuff specialist.

Yeah let the better pass rusher walk and keep the drafted players. Go Colts

[csmopar]

19 minutes ago, boo2202 said:

Awww you care… thank you 

No honestly don’t. More just wondering out loud why you’d make a post saying you’re leaving yet… here you are.

 

seems sensationalist to me

[krunk]

KC just traded up. Watch they take Worthy!

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

I am glad at least we got a DE with proven college production. We haven’t taken one like that before and have always bet on traits.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, krunk said:

KC just traded up. Watch they take Worthy!

They will. Hill replacement 

[compuls1v3]

3 minutes ago, DougDew said:

I thought all of the options were good options, even a RT.  Would have been disappointed if we picked DeJean at 15.

 

Yes, I like the pick because it sets us up with long term solutions at the three most important positions on an NFL team, QB, LT, and EDGE, so things fell right for us.  And we have Paye for the other side.

 

As far as Latu specifically, I am concerned about his bend.  From the tape, he seems to run around the OTs sort of straight up instead of ducking around them.  But I may not be seeing it right.  But yes, I like the pick.

Also, I hope Latu can draw attention and help Paye as well as Buckner.  Should be fun to watch.

[krunk]

1 minute ago, Blueblood23 said:

Yeah let the better pass rusher walk and keep the drafted players. Go Colts

When have we kept any of these short contract guys? Paye is the run stuffing edge in this D. That's his job. He doesn't have to be Freeneys.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

What are bills doing trading with KC?

[dw49]

PFF College

@PFF_College

UCLA EDGE Laiatu Latu over the past two seasons: 95.4 PFF Grade (1st) 27 Sacks (1st) 126 Pressures (2nd) 23% Pass Rush Win Rate (1st) 94.5 Pass Rush Grade (1st)

 

[smittywerb]

4 minutes ago, Goatface Killah said:

You have to be in the top 20 to be good enough? 

meh, not saying that.  But in this scheme, we need to be able to rush with our front 4 because we’re not blitzing.  We know Grover know isn’t here to rush the passer, so that falls on Ebukam, Buck, and qwitty.  So that puts more pressure on those 3 to get the job done, and if one of those 3 can’t get it done, then it makes it easier for the opposing offensive line to prevent pressure.  On another team, Paye may be a stud, but on this one he’s just serviceable.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Chiefs are taking worthy. What are bills doing. Lol

So what WR will be available in second?

[krunk]

Yup Chiefs took Worthy!

[w87r]

2 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Chiefs are taking worthy. What are bills doing. Lol

So what WR will be available in second?

Looking forward to reset after round and seeing who might be there 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

I have no clue what colts will do tomorrow because I have no clue if there is any WR left or what CB could be there. Doesn’t seem to be a very deep class after this first round.

[Stephen]

Arrrg

[Pelt]

Might we look at Corley in the second round?

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, Pelt said:

Might we look at Corley in the second round?

What position?

[Stephen]

Just now, Pelt said:

Might we look at Corley in the second round?

Or legette 

[krunk]

I'm hoping the Bills don't take Legette at 32

[compuls1v3]

4 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Chiefs are taking worthy. What are bills doing. Lol

So what WR will be available in second?

Ricky Pearsall or Brenden Rice?

[Goatface Killah]

7 minutes ago, smittywerb said:

meh, not saying that.  But in this scheme, we need to be able to rush with our front 4 because we’re not blitzing.  We know Grover know isn’t here to rush the passer, so that falls on Ebukam, Buck, and qwitty.  So that puts more pressure on those 3 to get the job done, and if one of those 3 can’t get it done, then it makes it easier for the opposing offensive line to prevent pressure.  On another team, Paye may be a stud, but on this one he’s just serviceable.

Or maybe you just have unrealistic expectations? 

 

He is entering his 4th year. He has gotten better every year. He should continue to get better.

 

A guy who put up 16.5 sacks last year, Trey Hendrickson, had only 6.5 sacks over his first 3 seasons combined. Kwity has 3 times that many. Hes been very good. 

 

People have to stop expecting guys to make the HOF in their early 20s. 

[w87r]

2 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I have no clue what colts will do tomorrow because I have no clue if there is any WR left or what CB could be there. Doesn’t seem to be a very deep class after this first round.

Those are arguably the two deepest positions in the draft