Leveon Bell?

[pacolts56]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-trade-deadline-2019-redskins-fielding-calls-on-trent-williams-bucs-willing-to-move-o-j-howard/live/

 

 

[Imgrandojji]

I'd love it.  Nothing against Mack, but Bell takes that running game up a whole nother order of magnitude. 

 

The only question is how much life Bell has left in his body as he is getting older as RBs go and has a lot of mileage on him.  Still probably worth the risk if the price is fair.

[Bravo]

NO.... Obviously not going to happen. Not even close. Colts with Ballard don’t make those kind of moves. With Ballard track record the Colts don’t make any moves besides maybe trading away a player to grab a couple extra picks.

 

Honesty the Texans seem to be going all in this season. I’m not sure they have any more assists to give up besides a player but I could see the Texans trading for Bell.

[danlhart87]

I hope the Texans trade a lot for Bell

[jskinnz]

21 minutes ago, Imgrandojji said:

I'd love it.  Nothing against Mack, but Bell takes that running game up a whole nother order of magnitude. 

 

The only question is how much life Bell has left in his body as he is getting older as RBs go and has a lot of mileage on him.  Still probably worth the risk if the price is fair.

 

You'd love it.  Fine and fair as you are not alone.

 

But really, what are the odds that Ballard would pay the salary and draft capital it would take to get him?

 

[Imgrandojji]

Just now, jskinnz said:

 

You'd love it.  Fine and fair as you are not alone.

 

But really, what are the odds that Ballard would pay the salary and draft capital it would take to get him?

 

I don't know.  I don't know what he thinks it would take to put this team over the top.

 

We have the cap space, and the very high salary would reduce the talent cost.  Using cap space in this way to cut down other costs is a form of efficiency other GMs exploit to better their football teams.

 

I'm not saying definitely gonna happen, but it's hard to argue he wouldn't make us better, and we have every resource we need to make the move.  It all comes down to what Ballard and Irsay think.

[DonnieDarko1023]

No thanks we already have a running back that doesn’t eat up a lot of cap space and is out producing Bell 

[jvan1973]

[Imgrandojji]

20 minutes ago, bravo4460 said:

NO.... Obviously not going to happen. Not even close. Colts with Ballard don’t make those kind of moves. With Ballard track record the Colts don’t make any moves besides maybe trading away a player to grab a couple extra picks.

 

Honesty the Texans seem to be going all in this season. I’m not sure they have any more assists to give up besides a player but I could see the Texans trading for Bell.

Ballard's track record goes back exactly 2 years.  During those 2 years he had to completely overhaul a bad, broken roster left behind by Grigson, sort out the trash and save the treasure while trying to frantically redevelop a dozen different positions at once.

 

This is now a completely different situation.  Things aren't perfect, but they've stabilized and we have a good young roster.  We are now competing for trophies, or at least in a position to potentially do so. 

 

Different situations require a different style of management.  This situation looks like it favors a certain aggression.  I wonder if Ballard will make the transition, or if he sees it completely differently than I do. 

 

Either way he's done a great job so far and he earns the benefit of the doubt, but I doubt he sits on picks like Smaug in his mountain with his roster already mostly built and just needing a bit of polish here and there.  If he sees an efficient move to make the team more competitive over the next 2-3 years I bet he pounces on it.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Wonder if this is true. 

 

 

[Nickster]

The Jets are a terrible franchise.  I can't believe they thought Bell would put them over the top.  And if they didn't think that, why in Sam Hill would you pay him? 

 

Now they want to dump him.  I ain't the best football mind on the planet, but I could have saved them some trouble there if they'd a asked me.

[Bravo]

9 minutes ago, Imgrandojji said:

Ballard's track record goes back exactly 2 years.  During those 2 years he had to completely overhaul a bad, broken roster left behind by Grigson, sort out the trash and save the treasure while trying to frantically redevelop a dozen different positions at once.

 

This is now a completely different situation.  Things aren't perfect, but they've stabilized and we have a good young roster.  We are now competing for trophies, or at least in a position to potentially do so. 

 

Different situations require a different style of management.  This situation looks like it favors a certain aggression.  I wonder if Ballard will make the transition, or if he sees it completely differently than I do. 

 

Either way he's done a great job so far and he earns the benefit of the doubt, but I doubt he sits on picks like Smaug in his mountain with his roster already mostly built and just needing a bit of polish here and there.  If he sees an efficient move to make the team more competitive over the next 2-3 years I bet he pounces on it.

 

I know his track record doesn’t go back too far. He has spoke about and has proven how much he values picks. In my opinion he grabs even more picks, doesn’t trade for anyone, The Colts still do well, and you have an extra pick or two to possibly draft a difference maker. I just believe Ballard is going to continue down that path.

 

I personally would love for them to grab a Pass Rusher or Defensive Tackle.

[JediXMan]

10 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Wonder if this is true. 

 

 

Texans really gunning for 0 2020 draft picks lol.

[csmopar]

Mack > Bell . 

[colt18]

One can only hope a trade is made for Bell

 

He would do much good for our offense and we have the cap for him

[csmopar]

41 minutes ago, bravo4460 said:

NO.... Obviously not going to happen. Not even close. Colts with Ballard don’t make those kind of moves. With Ballard track record the Colts don’t make any moves besides maybe trading away a player to grab a couple extra picks.

 

Honesty the Texans seem to be going all in this season. I’m not sure they have any more assists to give up besides a player but I could see the Texans trading for Bell.

 

35 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

I hope the Texans trade a lot for Bell

 

10 minutes ago, JediXMan said:

Texans really gunning for 0 2020 draft picks lol.

 

 

[Mr.Debonair]

The Texans are really silly to make this type of trade. They have holes at DB and DL and OL but are even contemplating grabbing a RB when the two they have now are good

[Superman]

20 minutes ago, Nickster said:

The Jets are a terrible franchise.  I can't believe they thought Bell would put them over the top.  And if they didn't think that, why in Sam Hill would you pay him? 

 

Now they want to dump him.  I ain't the best football mind on the planet, but I could have saved them some trouble there if they'd a asked me.

 

Different GM, and reportedly the coach didn't want Bell from jump. So not surprising that they'd be pulling the cord on him... 

[Four2itus]

33 minutes ago, Imgrandojji said:

It all comes down to what Ballard and Irsay think.

Well, this thread is about what fans think. Personally, I feel exactly how I did when a thread about him coming to Indy started in the offseason. 

 

I have the rumblings of a chuckle, right on the edge of going into fully belly grind. Why?

 

-Too expensive

-Too little production

-The complete opposite of the locker room fit Ballard has not only described, but his track record confirms

 

[Colts_Fan12]

7 minutes ago, csmopar said:

Mack > Bell . 

I love Mack but come on now Bell with our line would be leading the league in rushing 

[csmopar]

Just now, Colts_Fan12 said:

I love Mack but come on now Bell with our line would be leading the league in rushing 

Bell isn't what he used to be. he's gotten a lot of mileage and his play has suffered. No way I'm trading for that if I'm Ballard. 

[jskinnz]

34 minutes ago, Imgrandojji said:

I don't know.  I don't know what he thinks it would take to put this team over the top.

 

We have the cap space, and the very high salary would reduce the talent cost.  Using cap space in this way to cut down other costs is a form of efficiency other GMs exploit to better their football teams.

 

I'm not saying definitely gonna happen, but it's hard to argue he wouldn't make us better, and we have every resource we need to make the move.  It all comes down to what Ballard and Irsay think.

 

He could have had Bell for just the salary and elected not to pursue him in free agency.  For a trade I say this with 100% certainty - Bell will not be on the Colts.  

 

And I think the argument that Bell makes the Colts appreciably better is not a fact.  

[Colts_Fan12]

2 minutes ago, csmopar said:

Bell isn't what he used to be. he's gotten a lot of mileage and his play has suffered. No way I'm trading for that if I'm Ballard. 

I think he's still great hes just the only talented player on a trash team 

[csmopar]

4 minutes ago, Colts_Fan12 said:

I love Mack but come on now Bell with our line would be leading the league in rushing 

and for what its worth... Mack is currently 7th in the league, Bell is  26th...

[Colts_Fan12]

3 minutes ago, csmopar said:

and for what its worth... Mack is currently 7th in the league, Bell is  26th...

well I did say with our line not with the dumpster fire jets 

[lollygagger8]

 

Sounds like a Stephen Holder story

[Superman]

15 minutes ago, Colts_Fan12 said:

I love Mack but come on now Bell with our line would be leading the league in rushing 

 

Maybe 2016 Bell... I think he's done. His ability to get big plays went away a couple years ago and it doesn't look like it's coming back. 

 

And I think Mack has shown a lot of improvement this season. Account for the money and the age, and I don't think I would trade Mack for Bell straight up.

[Colts_Fan12]

1 minute ago, Superman said:

 

Maybe 2016 Bell... I think he's done. His ability to get big plays went away a couple years ago and it doesn't look like it's coming back. 

 

And I think Mack has shown a lot of improvement this season. Account for the money and the age, and I don't think I would trade Mack for Bell straight up.

I wouldnt either I want both lol

[Stephen]

If the chiefs  get bell that could help them

[stitches]

Ballard didn't want him for free for that contract in the off-season, I see no way he wants to pay pick compensation to get him on the same contract now, especially with how good Mack has played. 

[shasta519]

OJ Howard is the guy that really intrigues me. Neither Ebron or Doyle are under contract after this season...Howard has two more years on his rookie deal. I think he's a top 5 TE in the right system.

[ProblChld32]

1 hour ago, pacolts56 said:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-trade-deadline-2019-redskins-fielding-calls-on-trent-williams-bucs-willing-to-move-o-j-howard/live/

 

 

Id pass, no thank you. 

[pacolts56]

9 minutes ago, ProblChld32 said:

Id pass, no thank you. 

On Bell or the pie? 

[IinD]

Not this thread again

 

Where's the Antonio Brown thread to make it feel like summer 2019 again?

[Nickster]

1 hour ago, Superman said:

 

Different GM, and reportedly the coach didn't want Bell from jump. So not surprising that they'd be pulling the cord on him... 

 

So the GM was fired after he signed Bell?  Before the season started?  Or did they already fire the guy?  Wow.  Just think.  We could all be Jets fans.  Totally incompetent organization.

[csmopar]

thank God, the deadlined passed and once again, we did not go after Bell!

[Superman]

1 hour ago, Nickster said:

 

So the GM was fired after he signed Bell?  Before the season started?  Or did they already fire the guy?  Wow.  Just think.  We could all be Jets fans.  Totally incompetent organization.

 

Yes, the GM got fired in May/June. Look at it this way, they fired him and hired the next guy six months early. 

[aaron11]

i think he could be great here, but if they were not interested when he was a free agent they are not going to trade for him now

 

if it were up to me i would have passed on funchess and signed bell.  he got a big contract but its not insane 

[aaron11]

18 hours ago, Superman said:

 

Maybe 2016 Bell... I think he's done. His ability to get big plays went away a couple years ago and it doesn't look like it's coming back. 

 

And I think Mack has shown a lot of improvement this season. Account for the money and the age, and I don't think I would trade Mack for Bell straight up.

Mack looks  pretty under paid right now.  he was second in carries over the first six games

 

he seems like a candidate for an early extension, considering how running backs are holding out around the league and hes on a 4th round contract

[Hoose]

18 hours ago, IinD said:

Not this thread again

 

Where's the Antonio Brown thread to make it feel like summer 2019 again?

Priceless.

 

But to anyone who actually believes Bell is worth his salary, please know we have a spot saved for you at the next Looney Toons convention. It speaks volumes about the Jets' management that they actually believed Bell was going to be a stud on their team. On a team like the Pats? OK. Maybe. On the Colts, or for that matter, most any other team? Less likely. On the Jets? No chance. And paying him all that money? What a mess of an organization. They made the big splash, and now they're all out of cash.

 

All this said, Bell was a fabulous football player in Pittsburgh.Was. But he's going nowhere in NY, and he'll likely fade away after his guaranteed money is paid.  Yes, he's laughing his way to the bank, but the Steelers are thrilled that he didn't take their offer; and the football world is hardly noticing he's still playing. Such is the life of a running back in the NFL. Which is why you don't sign them to a big money, long term contract, no matter how good they were in their first few years. The sad truth: a RB rarely makes it through that second contract. The shelf life is just too short. The odds of a serious injury are just too high. The investment simply isn't worth it.