So Who Plays Right Corner?

[BlueShoe]

Something has to give. 

 

Quincy Wilson lined up almost exclusively at RCB, and so does Vontae.

 

They're both starting. 

 

Do we teach a new dog new tricks or an old dog new tricks. 

 

It is a good problem to have.

[VaAllDay757]

Vontae plays both sides this won't be an issue

[BlueShoe]

4 minutes ago, VaAllDay757 said:

Vontae plays both sides this won't be an issue

 

Vontae almost always lines up at RCB. There have been "few" times when we have had him shadow a particular player around the field. But make no mistake, Vontae is at his best when he is playing RCB. 

[jameszeigler834]

7 minutes ago, BlueShoe said:

Something has to give. 

 

Quincy Wilson lined up almost exclusively at RCB, and so does Vontae.

 

They're both starting. 

 

Do we teach a new dog new tricks or an old dog new tricks. 

 

It is a good problem to have.

Wilson RCB and Vontae at LCB.

[BlueShoe]

Just now, jameszeigler834 said:

Wilson RCB and Vontae at LCB.

 

Why?

 

Not that I necessarily disagree; though I may.

[Colts1324]

I think it depends on Vontae. They aren't just going to let a rookie come in and move Vontae if Vontae isn't comfortable play LCB. 

[BlueShoe]

7 minutes ago, Colts1324 said:

I think it depends on Vontae. They aren't just going to let a rookie come in and move Vontae if Vontae isn't comfortable play LCB. 

 

I tend to agree. We are paying Vontae 10 million reasons why he is great at RCB.  

 

It will be interesting to see what happens. I do like Wilson in a "Richard Sherman" role. Maybe we play more zone on the left side, and have Vontae play mostly man on the right side. 

[achcolts]

30 minutes ago, BlueShoe said:

 

I tend to agree. We are paying Vontae 10 million reasons why he is great at RCB.  

 

It will be interesting to see what happens. I do like Wilson in a "Richard Sherman" role. Maybe we play more zone on the left side, and have Vontae play mostly man on the right side. 

Don't know much about him but isn't he a press man corner?

[BlueShoe]

6 minutes ago, achcolts said:

Don't know much about him but isn't he a press man corner?

 

In my opinion, Wilson has the ability to play outside in any system. 

 

He doesn't wrap up well when he tackles, but he gets ball carriers on the ground. If we polish him up then he could play it all. 

 

We have a very versatile pair of starting corners right now.

 

Add Malik to the mix, and this defense isn't the same old Colts. If we can get any kind of decent pass rush then it is going to be very tough to pass the ball on us. 

[MTC]

I still believe Melvin will be the starter at RCB/LCB, at least during camp and into the pre-season. 

[Lawrence Owen]

I don't see this as even a question,...Vonte is CB1

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The question we need to be asking is this:

Who's playing nickel corner?  Ballard has already said is the conference after the Hooker signing, Butler is a safety.  This is now my worry spot on the entire defense after 3 rounds of the draft.

[MTC]

1 hour ago, BlueShoe said:

 

Why?

 

Not that I necessarily disagree; though I may.

 

Ballard said he wants Wilson to work on his technique. He may or may not be ready for a starting role, but he'll definitely see snaps nonetheless. 

[BlueCollarColts]

8 minutes ago, MTC said:

I still believe Melvin will be the starter at RCB/LCB, at least during camp and into the pre-season. 

Im pretty confident Wilson will beat our Melvin. Melvin was solid last season but he is what he is, a corner that can play spot minutes due to injury, he's not a full time starter and the staff probably knows that.

[aaron11]

8 minutes ago, Lawrence Owen said:

Butler is a safety. 

wonder why they are being so adamant about that

 

hes played nickel back for years, and its a team need at this point

[coltsfanatic24]

I think Wilson will win the starting LCB position from Melvin. He's just a better overall talent. 

[Lawrence Owen]

20 minutes ago, aaron11 said:

wonder why they are being so adamant about that

 

hes played nickel back for years, and its a team need at this point

i'm with ya.  i'd let him swing in and out of safety/nickel as needed myself.  But i don't run the colts...lol

[will426]

Unless he competes harder than Melvin he's primarily nothing lol Ballard mentioned before doesn't matter where you're picked he's putting the best players on the field to compete so if he doesn't show he's better then.... 

[Lawrence Owen]

25 minutes ago, aaron11 said:

wonder why they are being so adamant about that

 

hes played nickel back for years, and its a team need at this point

Now that i've sat and thought about it.  it's plain to me.  Without Butler at safety to start the ota's Ect, Hooker, Green and Geathers do not have a 'bar' to reach.  Ballard has emphasized competition on all levels. Maybe he's keeping Butler there to make them guys beat him out for the starting role.  Make them better, faster. Then if/when the two starters are figured out, And Butler is not one of them, he can be used as a nickel again?....i hope.

[ProblChld32]

5 hours ago, BlueShoe said:

Something has to give. 

 

Quincy Wilson lined up almost exclusively at RCB, and so does Vontae.

 

They're both starting. 

 

Do we teach a new dog new tricks or an old dog new tricks. 

 

It is a good problem to have.

 

Any Elite CB has no issue playing both sides. They knocked Sherman for lining up exclusively on the left side of the field, but he performed as good if not better when he moved around.

[James]

5 hours ago, MTC said:

I still believe Melvin will be the starter at RCB/LCB, at least during camp and into the pre-season. 

 

Hopefuly not. He is not starter quality.

[Luck is Good]

I tend to agree with the people that say it depends on Vontae. If Vontae wants to play RCB, you let him play RCB. If Quincy Wilson is as good as we think he is, he would have no problem playing LCB. And since he's a rookie, training camp and all other workouts could have him practicing on the left side

[LockeDown]

They could draft another CB today. 

[RockThatBlue]

7 hours ago, MTC said:

 

Ballard said he wants Wilson to work on his technique. He may or may not be ready for a starting role, but he'll definitely see snaps nonetheless. 

I don't see how he doesn't start. CB#2 isn't exactly filled with talent.

[OffensivelyPC]

9 hours ago, BlueShoe said:

 

Why?

 

Not that I necessarily disagree; though I may.

Because you want your best players on the field. Its just that simple.

[#12.]

9 hours ago, BlueShoe said:

 

 

He doesn't wrap up well when he tackles, but he gets ball carriers on the ground. 

That stood out to me too.  Awkward looking, but still effective, hopefully.

[LJpalmbeacher2]

Melvin will have something to say about it.

[ColtsBlitz]

Rookies and FA's aren't the only ones getting better during the offseason. Maybe Melvin can come back with better polished technique and coverage. Only the preseason will show. 

[Fisticuffs111]

Melvin.

I like Wilson a lot but he's going to be a drawing lots of flags his rookie season.

[jameszeigler834]

10 hours ago, BlueShoe said:

 

Why?

 

Not that I necessarily disagree; though I may.

They can both do the same things so why not?.

[VaAllDay757]

11 hours ago, BlueShoe said:

 

Vontae almost always lines up at RCB. There have been "few" times when we have had him shadow a particular player around the field. But make no mistake, Vontae is at his best when he is playing RCB. 

Not always he's not like sherman vontae follows where the #1 wr goes left or right plus they're not gonna let a rookie come in and change things anyway

[funktacious2]

Seriously, on paper, our secondary could be nasty if the rookies come along and Vontae and Geathers can stay healthy. Long term I'm a little concerned since I don't know what we will do with Davis.

[BleedBlu8792]

34 minutes ago, VaAllDay757 said:

Not always he's not like sherman vontae follows where the #1 wr goes left or right plus they're not gonna let a rookie come in and change things anyway

 

BlueShoe is right.. Vontae primarily lines up on the right side. Only this year did they start moving him around and it wasn't that often.

[throwing BBZ]

11 hours ago, aaron11 said:

wonder why they are being so adamant about that

 

hes played nickel back for years, and its a team need at this point

 

 They aren`t.  At this point Butler is depth and will be used where needed.
 

[BlueShoe]

11 hours ago, MTC said:

 

Ballard said he wants Wilson to work on his technique. He may or may not be ready for a starting role, but he'll definitely see snaps nonetheless. 

 

Let's get real.

 

Wilson is instantly the second best corner on this team. 

[BlueShoe]

3 hours ago, OffensivelyPC said:

Because you want your best players on the field. Its just that simple.

 

I am not sure where you thought I was saying anything different, because I am NOT. 

[BlueShoe]

2 hours ago, jameszeigler834 said:

They can both do the same things so why not?.

 

It is a question the Colts coaches will be answering soon and that makes it a valid discussion.

 

I don't think we can say one-way or the other until the coaches tell us. But I can see no good reason why they would move Vontae when he is a proven top-notch commodity at RCB. 

 

We'll see. 

[BlueShoe]

1 hour ago, VaAllDay757 said:

Not always he's not like sherman vontae follows where the #1 wr goes left or right plus they're not gonna let a rookie come in and change things anyway

 

Vontae plays most of his snaps on at RCB. It has been that way since he arrived.

 

He "sometimes" follows receivers, but not very often. He once traveled with Gronk. 

[BlueShoe]

11 hours ago, MTC said:

I still believe Melvin will be the starter at RCB/LCB, at least during camp and into the pre-season. 

 

I will take that bet. LOL

 

Barring injury; Vontae and Quincy will be the starting corners on Day 1. 

[BlueShoe]

11 hours ago, Lawrence Owen said:

I don't see this as even a question,...Vonte is CB1

.  

The question we need to be asking is this:

Who's playing nickel corner?  Ballard has already said is the conference after the Hooker signing, Butler is a safety.  This is now my worry spot on the entire defense after 3 rounds of the draft.

 

I think we might move Butler back to the slot. 

 

But that is just a guess at this point. 

 

Plus we don't know how camp injuries will impact our thoughts today. 

[VaAllDay757]

1 hour ago, BleedBlu8792 said:

 

BlueShoe is right.. Vontae primarily lines up on the right side. Only this year did they start moving him around and it wasn't that often.

What I'm saying is vontae won't have a problem lining up on sides of the field plus a rookie won't have no say so on what he does