Report: LT Joe Thomas and C Alex Mack on trade block. (Mega-Merge)

[RealityIsLuck]

The #Browns have engaged in discussions about potentially trading two of their best players: LT Joe Thomas and C Alex Mack, sources say.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet)

November 1, 2015

 

WOW. Two absolute studs. Asking price would be pretty high but either of these players would drastically change our line.

[Yoshinator]

The #Browns have engaged in discussions about potentially trading two of their best players: LT Joe Thomas and C Alex Mack, sources say.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet)

November 1, 2015

 

WOW. Two absolute studs. Asking price would be pretty high but either of these players would drastically change our line.

Definitely would. I don't think the price would be too high for Mack as he would be a FA soon if I remember right. Thomas would be expensive. If we could trade either a 2nd or 3rd for Mack, I would probably do it.

[12isthenew18]

I don't want anymore Cleveland transactions. 

[MTC]

Mack has a no-trade clause. 

[horseshoeblue22]

I'm on mobile so I can't provide a direct link, but NFL.com and PFT are both running the story.

I'm not sure how it would affect our long term cap situation, but would it be worth trading our 2016 1st round pick for both players? This would give us a top notch OL if we moved Costanzo to RT and Reitz to RG, and we would have the rest of the draft/FA period in the off-season to focus exclusively on the defense.

What do you think?

[ColtsBTM12]

The Browns would probably ask for T.Y. if they were in talks with us.

[Architects08]

Justtttt doooo itttt

[BlueShoe]

We are not going to move Castonzo to RT, because we just paid him LT money, and more important, he is a LT.

 

I hope we look into Mack though.

 

His 8 million dollar cap hit a year will lower the Browns realistic asking price. Might get him for a mid-late round pick.

 

If anyone is curious, Thomas sports a 10-11 million dollar cap hit.

[Colts_Fan12]

Mack will be a FA after the season and we have a good LT already save the pick for our new coaches and GM

[3nk1du]

I would rather trade B. Werner for B. Mingo. Both underachieved 1st rounders with troubles to adjust to the scheme.

[CanuckColtsFan]

Get Mack already, just do it.

[crazycolt1]

Get Mack already, just do it.

He will be a free agent at the end of the season. Why trade anything for him when we don't need his position?

[Steamboat_Shaun]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/11/01/browns-are-having-a-fire-sale-barkevious-mingo-also-on-the-block/

 

Another report... Mingo and Kruger are on the block as well. And I'm sure Joe Haden could be had for the right price.

 

But Mack would fill such a huge need for the Colts, I'd love to see it happen.

[csmopar]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000569518/article/browns-looking-to-trade-alex-mack-and-joe-thomas

Looks like the Browns may want to trade Mack...do we do it?! I would in a heartbeat

[GoColts8818]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000569518/article/browns-looking-to-trade-alex-mack-and-joe-thomas

Looks like the Browns may want to trade Mack...do we do it?! I would in a heartbeat

depends on the asking price. Also, Mack can void the rest of his contract after this season before trading for him I think you need to know if he will do that or not.

[AZColt11]

I don't think so.  Prior to this year I might agree but not anymore.  As we have seen most FA's just don't work out the way you expect.  I would rather save it for the draft.  If the Colts do this they will have learned nothing.

[Colts_Fan12]

Can we have Tashaun Gipson instead

Also take Mingo for a late pick

[Colts_Fan12]

Mack will be a FA and will cost a ton and we are good at LT

[GoColts8818]

I don't think so.  Prior to this year I might agree but not anymore.  As we have seen most FA's just don't work out the way you expect.  I would rather save it for the draft.  If the Colts do this they will have learned nothing.

you can't swear off trades and free agency forever though. Yes they have had busts but they have also had hits like Hasselbeck, AV (yes I know not Grigson's guy but still a signing that worked out well and is still here), Davis, Walden, and Adams. I also think if they would commit to running the ball we would love the Gore pick up. I have no problem making a move if it makes sense. If the Borwns go we want another first rounder and you think he's going to void his deal after this season then no don't make the trade. If they want like fifth rounder and you think he won't void the rest of his deal then I would do it if you feel like he fits your system. It all depends circumstances.

[OLD FAN MAN]

grigs needs to redeem himself and find a way to get both mack and Thomas, have to build from the inside out to win

[krunk]

i would not mind adding Kruger to go along with Mathis, Cole, Walden, Moore to aid in the pass rush maybe. He hasn't done a whole lot in 2015 but he had 11 sacks last year on a team that had a terrible run defense and not much reason for teams to pass a whole lot against them.  Can't see us picking up Joe Thomas due to price concerns.   Be okay with Mack if the deal made sense.

[21isSuperman]

I don't think we need Thomas, since we have Castonzo.  But Mack would be interesting, depending on the price.  How has he been doing this year?

[krunk]

Don't think it would take a whole lot to get Kruger.  Not sure about what it would take to get Mack.

[horseshoeblue22]

He will be a free agent at the end of the season. Why trade anything for him when we don't need his position?

We don't? Khaled Holmes is hurt...again, and Jon Harrison is not the answer. Mack has a no-trade clause which means he has to okay the trade before it's official. If he gets traded, he's not going to void his contract next year, he could just void the trade to begin with.

As far as Thomas, we could move him to RT or move AC there. Either way, it would be better than Reitz or any of the other guys we put in there. So if we can clear the cap space, I'd love to add both of these guys. Now, not later.

[csmopar]

Mack will be a FA and will cost a ton and we are good at LT

We have ?! AC has been playing like crap...absolutely crap

[csmopar]

I don't think we need Thomas, since we have Castonzo. But Mack would be interesting, depending on the price. How has he been doing this year?

Not quite himself before the broken leg but still in the top 10 of centers.

[csmopar]

Don't think it would take a whole lot to get Kruger. Not sure about what it would take to get Mack.

I'd offer a 2nd, the. A 1st. Anymore than that would be insane

[GoColts8818]

We have ?! AC has been playing like crap...absolutely crap

yes but given his career no reason to think he won't improve or to put it another way since the Colts just committed to him long term he had better improve.

[BProland85]

Bad idea trading for older players. Maybe if they'll take a late round pick. We need to keep our core young players and bring in more young players through the draft to build this team properly.

[csmopar]

Mack has a no-trade clause.

One that lets him approve the trade. I'm sure he'd be more likely to approve a trade to the Colts with Luck than say the Jags or Texans...

[bap1331]

RED FLAG! RED FLAG!

 

If Cleveland is trading them, its because there is something wrong. We learned our lesson with Trent Richardson, lets not do it again. Remember that Grigson's signings have a 50/50 chance of working out with the team.

[RealityIsLuck]

Mack is a great player, but has been disappointing so far this season, 3 sacks, 3 hits, 5 hurries allowed from under center. I wouldn't offer much more than a 4th with some incentives where it could possibly be a 3rd or 2nd if he's a pro bowler. 

 

Thomas on the other hand is just insane. Top rated OT by PFF, allowed only 2 sacks and 0 (!!!) hits. He's make a world of a difference to our OL both in the run game and pass protection. Also we could slide the struggling AC to the right side where many people thought he'd play better. Thomas - Mewhort - Holmes/FA - Draft Pick - Costonzo would be a top tier OL in this league. I don't care how old Thomas is, there are no signs to say he'll slow down any time too soon and he's under contract for much longer than Mack. I'd offer atleast a 1st and some extras for him.

[RealityIsLuck]

RED FLAG! RED FLAG!

 

If Cleveland is trading them, its because there is something wrong. We learned our lesson with Trent Richardson, lets not do it again. Remember that Grigson's signings have a 50/50 chance of working out with the team.

Orr... they understand they suck and arent going to contend any time soon so they want to get more young draft picks. Also, they already have Cam Erving who needs a spot on the OL. 

[crazycolt1]

We don't? Khaled Holmes is hurt...again, and Jon Harrison is not the answer. Mack has a no-trade clause which means he has to okay the trade before it's official. If he gets traded, he's not going to void his contract next year, he could just void the trade to begin with.

As far as Thomas, we could move him to RT or move AC there. Either way, it would be better than Reitz or any of the other guys we put in there. So if we can clear the cap space, I'd love to add both of these guys. Now, not later.

IMO the Colts do not need to be trading any picks away. It is apparent that the free agents are few and far between that are worth the effort. The fans want a winner and the only way to make that happen is by drafting smart. Picks are needed to make that happen.

[COLTS449]

How about Alex Mack, Gibson, and Mingo for Werner, and our 2nd and 3rd rounders next year? LOL. Ok but seriously. What would it take to get Mack. We need to just go all in for him IMO. No 1st rounder though. We should be able to get him without giving up a 1st.

[bababooey]

We wanted Mack like a few years ago but couldn't match the offer sheet and he is now older and got injured right? Why do we want to send picks for him?

[DougDew]

We just signed a Left Tackle.

[tvturner]

Saw a report that said they will trade pretty much anyone before the deadline. 

[needanoline63]

Mack will be a FA after the season and we have a good LT already save the pick for our new coaches and GM

Castonzo stinks man

[BOTT]

I don't think so. Prior to this year I might agree but not anymore. As we have seen most FA's just don't work out the way you expect. I would rather save it for the draft. If the Colts do this they will have learned nothing.

That's kinda silly. If the colts whiff on another 1st rounder should they stop drafting in the first round? Plus, these guys are in a totally different class than the marginal players Grigson has signed.