CR91 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 anyone upset that reggie ty vontae and freeman all didnt make the list or do you not care? also an interesting insight, theres only 7 qbs left peyton brady brees rodgers luck wilson and cam. luck can easily beat out cam and wilson which make luck a top 5 qb in the eyes of his peers after just two seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Reggie played 7 games. No way he was going to make it. I think TY might have had a case, but not the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefire4 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Fans of every team will think that one of their players should have made the list that didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 anyone upset that reggie ty vontae and freeman all didnt make the list or do you not care? also an interesting insight, theres only 7 qbs left peyton brady brees rodgers luck wilson and cam. luck can easily beat out cam and wilson which make luck a top 5 qb in the eyes of his peers after just two seasons Only Luck and Mathis made the list this year. Luck probably in the mid 20's.Mathis early 10's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestQBever Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 anyone upset that reggie ty vontae and freeman all didnt make the list or do you not care? also an interesting insight, theres only 7 qbs left peyton brady brees rodgers luck wilson and cam. luck can easily beat out cam and wilson which make luck a top 5 qb in the eyes of his peers after just two seasonsor he didn't make the list at all 0_0. back to reality now, I am kinda upset there hasn't been a single colt on the list yet. I kinda expected TY to be around 80 or 90. Oh well. Luck, Mathis....yeah that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigQandTheManiac Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 it's really not that surprising...not saying that they didn't deserve to be on the list...but it's not that surprising..annoying... yea ....btw does anyone know what that shock the world thing ty was talking about is all about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameszeigler834 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Yanyone upset that reggie ty vontae and freeman all didnt make the list or do you not care? also an interesting insight, theres only 7 qbs left peyton brady brees rodgers luck wilson and cam. luck can easily beat out cam and wilson which make luck a top 5 qb in the eyes of his peers after just two seasonsI don't mind reggie not being on there but TY Hilton, Freeman, Mathis and Vontae not being there is nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21isSuperman Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Freeman should be there. TY needs a bit more time to show he isn't a flash in the pan, but I think he deserved a spot in the 80s or so. Vontae is too inconsistent to be on there. Mathis is guaranteed to be on there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Reggie played 7 games. No way he was going to make it. I think TY might have had a case, but not the others.Gronkowski made it though.... Feel like Reggie should have for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Gronkowski made it though.... Feel like Reggie should have for sure! I actually haven't been paying attention to it. Gronkowski shouldn't have made it either. That's a glitch, not a reason to throw Reggie in. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Looks like Luck gets in this week, the 20's... And Mathis likely next week, the 10's.... And that's it. I thought TYH might have a chance, but once he didn't make the first 50, I didn't see him in the 2nd 50. And remember, this is the players voting, not the media or the fans..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snkdy Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I didn't expect Reggie to get in this year, but TY definitely deserved a spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiemaurice Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 My good ol guy Pierre Garcon made the list. Now he was injury prone and I don't see his potential being greater than TY's . This is insane lol. TY FOR TOP 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Guy Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I actually haven't been paying attention to it. Gronkowski shouldn't have made it either. That's a glitch, not a reason to throw Reggie in. JMOThe list is not a judgement of last year; it is a prediction of next year. There is no reason why a player coming off an injury couldn't make the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblueblood Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 russell wilson will be ahead of luck, sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 The list is not a judgement of last year; it is a prediction of next year. There is no reason why a player coming off an injury couldn't make the list. I didn't think it was either. I've always thought it was just a ranking by other players in the league, based on the simple criteria of who they think are the best players in the league. Not necessarily who was best last year or who will be best next year, or even who has had the best career. As such, it's incredibly subjective, and practically impossible to argue about whether a player should be included or not. You're right about a player coming off of injury being able to make the list; Manning was 50th in 2012. So maybe I shouldn't be so quick to say that Reggie and Gronk shouldn't be on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 No Vontae is laughable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swankdizzle Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Fans like to see their team rated highly, but it's better really to be underrated. You want the Richard Shermans to come to town thinking TY Hilton is such a scrub; he wasn't even in the top 100. And, you don't want TY himself thinking "I'm really great; number 15 this year," instead of scrambling up the mountain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twfish Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 it's really not that surprising...not saying that they didn't deserve to be on the list...but it's not that surprising..annoying... yea ....btw does anyone know what that shock the world thing ty was talking about is all about?I beleive it was that he dropped his agent that would have tried to suck the colts dry of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwiz Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Fans like to see their team rated highly, but it's better really to be underrated. You want the Richard Shermans to come to town thinking TY Hilton is such a scrub; he wasn't even in the top 100. And, you don't want TY himself thinking "I'm really great; number 15 this year," instead of scrambling up the mountain.I don't think Sherman is gonna ever think of Hilton as a scrub lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twfish Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I don't think Sherman is gonna ever think of Hilton as a scrub lol.didn't he have nice things too say about our offense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwiz Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 didn't he have nice things too say about our offense?I'm not sure, but I do know he had plenty good to say about Andrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twfish Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I'm not sure, but I do know he had plenty good to say about Andrew.I remember that but I coulda swore he said something nice about one of our WR? maybe it was TY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwiz Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I remember that but I coulda swore he said something nice about one of our WR? maybe it was TY?Idk but I googled it, only thing that came up was Browner talking about Hilton's weight. I didn't really follow the pre-game stuff though so I'm not sure of everything Richard said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twfish Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Idk but I googled it, only thing that came up was Browner talking about Hilton's weight. I didn't really follow the pre-game stuff though so I'm not sure of everything Richard said.ehhh oh well lol, ill just go back too Imagining people saying nice things about eachother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwiz Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 ehhh oh well lol, ill just go back too Imagining people saying nice things about eachotherSounds fun lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dw49 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 what are the "10's ?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jskinnz Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 anyone upset that reggie ty vontae and freeman all didnt make the list or do you not care? also an interesting insight, theres only 7 qbs left peyton brady brees rodgers luck wilson and cam. luck can easily beat out cam and wilson which make luck a top 5 qb in the eyes of his peers after just two seasons Don't care. It means next to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollygagger8 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Idk but I googled it, only thing that came up was Browner talking about Hilton's weight. I didn't really follow the pre-game stuff though so I'm not sure of everything Richard said. I think Sherman said something like " Ohhhhhhh Shiiiiiiiiii" when T.Y was a blur running past him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ja'Crispy Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I hate this NFL Top 100 thing. Nobody can explain what the criteria is. Ask one "expert" or player and they will say "it's based on last season." Ask another and it's "oh, it's based on career." It's all messed up, hence Peyton being #50 something the year he didn't even step on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwing BBZ Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 The Top 100 Players for 2014 as voted on by the players. OK! Reggie wasn`t running a lot of "great routes" last season, like he USED to. He was floating into openings in the zones with Andrew looking for him all to often. No, Reggie shouldn`t be a top 100 for 2014. More like 2nd to 3rd top WR on his team. Freeman was definitely very productive last season, but i believe he will be targeted often to come out on 3rd downs. So... ? I think Vontae will earn a top 100 for 2015. Unfortunately, in his "INCONSISTENT season ;) " he gave up ONE more TD reception than Patrick Peterson so No top 100 for Vontae. Personally, i didn`t think he was "inconsistent". He just got Smoked by some SMALL guys with elite speed/quickness, and i believe he played at least one week with a tight hammy or something. And neither of his safeties, ... well, some know. An improving Andrew with more time, and TY should have more than last seasons 5 Td`s. So the 2015 list is a good possibility. With a Big Colts defensive turnaround, Arthur Jones maybe in 2015. All JMO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Satele make it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsfanmilyman Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Fans like to see their team rated highly, but it's better really to be underrated. You want the Richard Shermans to come to town thinking TY Hilton is such a scrub; he wasn't even in the top 100. And, you don't want TY himself thinking "I'm really great; number 15 this year," instead of scrambling up the mountain.I'm pretty sure neither of them thank that. These lists things have some merit but people clamoring about TY not being on there, just wait. With Luck and him working more together, good things will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollygagger8 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Satele make it? Number one on the field and number one in your heart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Number one on the field and number one in your heart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo2004 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 No. TY and Vontae are too inconsistent to be on the top 100. Freeman is a average starting linebacker which is good considering we got him as a UDFA but that's all he is. Reggie wasn't there because of injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 No. TY and Vontae are too inconsistent to be on the top 100. Freeman is a average starting linebacker which is good considering we got him as a UDFA but that's all he is.Reggie wasn't there because of injury.I would argue a guy with 270 tackles 7 sacks and three picks in his first two seasons in the league is far better than average. Not that i necessarily think he should have been in the top 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsLegacy Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Good to see this forum still wildly overrating Freeman. He would be lucky to make the NFL top 300.He's certainly not a bad player but he's certainly not a top 100 player, no matter how you define the top 100 list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fvantagio Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 No. TY and Vontae are too inconsistent to be on the top 100. Freeman is a average starting linebacker which is good considering we got him as a UDFA but that's all he is. Reggie wasn't there because of injury.120+ tackles and 5.5 sacks (led all MLBs in that catagory BTW), plus tied for 3rd in FF (only behind Mathis and Quinn)...Thats average? To me that shows hes one of the best pass rushers and turnover machines at his position. Which in my opinion makes him one of the better MLBs in the league. But I guess if you dont want to take sacks, turnovers, tackles, picks, hustle or leadership into account, then by all means call him "average". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaAllDay757 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Didn't expect reggie to make the list because of his injury but I believe TY will be in the 20's somewhere and freeman is a great player but I don't think his name is big enough yet to get on that list give him another year he may be on it next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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