oldunclemark Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Glad to see some Donald Brown in this thread.... The same Donald Brown that many here on Colts.com and some in this very thread wanted off our roster because he SUCKS!! Except, he doesn't. And now everyone LOVES Donald Brown. At some point, perhaps the same will happen for Trent Richardson. I, for one, will not be surprised.....NCF... There is a parallel there.... Trent is where Donald Brown was the last couple of years.. I'd bet Brown is quietly telling him that..... Brown knows exactly how Trent feels because he waS Trent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownColt Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 I’m not frustrated at all because I think I’ve been playing good,” Richardson said. “If you turn on the film, I don’t have any missed assignments. I haven’t had any missed reads. I’ve been playing good. Stuff just hasn’t matched up like we thought it would when I’m in there. I think teams match up differently when I come in. seriously Trent who do ya think your fooling buddy? if you really believe what you say then your likely not studying the playbook muchRunning backs coach said the same thing about Trent last week or two weeks ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Glad to see some Donald Brown in this thread.... The same Donald Brown that many here on Colts.com and some in this very thread wanted off our roster because he SUCKS!! Except, he doesn't. And now everyone LOVES Donald Brown. At some point, perhaps the same will happen for Trent Richardson. I, for one, will not be surprised.....agreed but in the mean time, nothing wrong with calling Richardsons play what it has been..Bad.......I would like to believe it gets better but after reading them quotes he is either 1 of 3 things in my opinion of course and none of which are good or possibly all 3 1.In complete denial about his play2.Trying to pull one over on the fans to keep those fans that buy what he says at face value who dont watch film (All 22)3.Not studying the playbook and truthfully believes what he says.......Not likely in my opinion but if he does then its safe to say his production wont go up soon Clearly #1 is true and I also think #2 as well..........if #3 is true then I'd like to get a late round draft pick for him come next year because at this point thats all he is worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
methodicaleddie Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Taking no blame. Blame for what? They have a winning record with him playing. The running game is doing good enough. Obviously our offensive line isn't good at all. Andrew Luck is still one of the QBs that gets sacked the most. As far as I'm concerned, they are still winning with him, whether he's making a great block and catching a screen pass for the first down, he's contributing in his own way. Once he and the o line gel together things will look up for him.You must be trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Blame for what? They have a winning record with him playing. The running game is doing good enough. Obviously our offensive line isn't good at all. Andrew Luck is still one of the QBs that gets sacked the most. As far as I'm concerned, they are still winning with him, whether he's making a great block and catching a screen pass for the first down, he's contributing in his own way. Once he and the o line gel together things will look up for him.You must be trolling."You must be trolling." Seriously dude? The only reason our running game is good enough is because Brown is picking up the slack for Richardsons poor play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CroatianColtsFan21 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Glad to see some Donald Brown in this thread.... The same Donald Brown that many here on Colts.com and some in this very thread wanted off our roster because he SUCKS!! Except, he doesn't. And now everyone LOVES Donald Brown. At some point, perhaps the same will happen for Trent Richardson. I, for one, will not be surprised..... it's interesting how DB sucked his first 4 years with the colts and now that TRich is on the team, DB is having a (well overdue) breakout season.. coincidence? i don't think so ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeDown Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I think Trent is just repeating what his RBs coach is telling him when watching tape. I don't think he is delusional at all, just towing the company line and remaining positive. I think he will at least become an awesome blocker when all is said and done because of his strength and he has really good hands catching the ball, maybe his best attribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tahuyaman Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I still believe Trent Richardson will be one of the top backs in the league soon,I don't think that's realistic at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheartcolt Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Glad to see some Donald Brown in this thread.... The same Donald Brown that many here on Colts.com and some in this very thread wanted off our roster because he SUCKS!! Except, he doesn't. And now everyone LOVES Donald Brown. At some point, perhaps the same will happen for Trent Richardson. I, for one, will not be surprised.....Don't paint everyone with the same brush. Some of us have been defending him for years..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brent71 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Grigson has to be asking himself everyday 'did I really pull the trigger on that trade.' Colts had alot of good running backs on the pre-season and regular season roster the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
methodicaleddie Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 "You must be trolling." Seriously dude? The only reason our running game is good enough is because Brown is picking up the slack for Richardsons poor playSeriously dude?It took Brown how long to produce like this? Has it been 7 games in one season? No, it's been almost 70-80 games. Just go and think about that. Trent doesn't deserve any blame for sucking just yet. You guys can't expect excellence so quickly, that's just a ridiculous turnaround. Give the guy an offseason please. They got Trent to build a monster for now and for the future, remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollygagger8 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Just keep throwing him the ball!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thewholefnshow28 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Glad to see some Donald Brown in this thread.... The same Donald Brown that many here on Colts.com and some in this very thread wanted off our roster because he SUCKS!! Except, he doesn't. And now everyone LOVES Donald Brown. At some point, perhaps the same will happen for Trent Richardson. I, for one, will not be surprised..... To be fair up until this season he has been a disappointment for this team. It is great that he is finally putting it together because god I cannot imagine where we would be if he was playing like he usually does. The hate on DB may have gone a bit to far, but lets not act like he has been doing this his entire time here because if he was then we would still have a first round pick and TRich would be the Browns problem. I really hope that TRich uses this offseason to get better because we cannot continue to what we are doing because it is no different then the Peyton era where we relied on a QB to save the day every game. Hopefully this offseason we can get it right and TRich can be worth that first round pick next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Colt Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Taking no blame. He doesn't need to....when the line learns to block and open holes for a power style game he will explode...DB is a different runner, slashing/cutiing. he has to do it himself... if he was the main back they would scheme to shut him down too. The Oline is the issue, for running abcks and for Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Seriously dude?It took Brown how long to produce like this? Has it been 7 games in one season? No, it's been almost 70-80 games. Just go and think about that. Trent doesn't deserve any blame for sucking just yet. You guys can't expect excellence so quickly, that's just a ridiculous turnaround. Give the guy an offseason please. They got Trent to build a monster for now and for the future, remember that.Injuries were the biggest part in Brown not being able to produce like this.......His lowest ypc season came his rookie year at 3.6. of course Trent deserves some blame, He has missed some holes, The ALL 22 shows that and Marshall Faulk broke that down, Does he deserve all the blame? Of course not....I never expected excellence, I'd settle for average at this point, Im giving him an offseason but in the meantime I call it like I see it....But you have to admit him not taking ANY accountability for his ypc is not a good thing, He even went as far as to say he has not missed any reads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblazes Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Seriously dude?It took Brown how long to produce like this? Has it been 7 games in one season? No, it's been almost 70-80 games. Just go and think about that. Trent doesn't deserve any blame for sucking just yet. You guys can't expect excellence so quickly, that's just a ridiculous turnaround. Give the guy an offseason please. They got Trent to build a monster for now and for the future, remember that.At this point, I would be happy if TRich was doing as well as DB's worst season (his rookie season) when he averaged 3.6 per carry and 15.0 yds per reception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUfan_Charlie Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 TRich lacks the speed and burst to succeed at this level. He was bad in Cleveland too when he had a pretty good Oline. I think it's pathetic he takes no blame for his horrible play. It's not like it is his fault when he runs straight to a guy laying on the ground so he can get tackled, not his fault at all. Not his fault he runs like he's waiting to get hit, nope, no way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Alexander Morillo Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 He doesn't need to....when the line learns to block and open holes for a power style game he will explode...DB is a different runner, slashing/cutiing. he has to do it himself... if he was the main back they would scheme to shut him down too. The Oline is the issue, for running abcks and for Luck.Bdown was the primary back lastgame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Bdown was the primary back lastgame.Trent started out like usual. Mostly passed to the first half. They were swapping series. Brown played more in the second maybe? But wasn't the primary back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudley Smith Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Why be critical of what he said? What exactly was he expected to say in this instance? Is he supposed to say he sucks? I don't see anything wrong with what he said, and I definitely don't think he was in any way deflecting the blame for his low YPC. He didn't throw the OL under the bus and instead had an overall positive outlook on his role in the offense and was supportive of Luck and Brown. I am sure he understands there is plenty of room for improvement, but that doesn't mean that he needs to trash his own play when speaking to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Why be critical of what he said? What exactly was he expected to say in this instance? Is he supposed to say he sucks? I don't see anything wrong with what he said, and I definitely don't think he was in any way deflecting the blame for his low YPC. He didn't throw the OL under the bus and instead had an overall positive outlook on his role in the offense and was supportive of Luck and Brown. I am sure he understands there is plenty of room for improvement, but that doesn't mean that he needs to trash his own play when speaking to the public.Exactly! Well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Alexander Morillo Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Trent started out like usual. Mostly passed to the first half. They were swapping series. Brown played more in the second maybe? But wasn't the primary back.He got the majority of the carries, yards, hplayed more than Trent. I'd love for Trent to have 3.7ypc which is browns"worst" average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Stats are nothing without wins.completely off topic but The Governor is back!! I did not see last episode coming. i kind of actually felt bad for the guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzer40 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 It's alright that Trent still has the confidence to say he's playing good, but unless your blind and mentally slow, then it's obvious that he has just sucked. I still hope that he gets things turned around and becomes at least somewhat serviceable, but as of right now he's been a complete and total waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcar0725 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Does anyone here think that the Colts wouldn't be 7-3 if they never made this trade? Doesn't it seem like a pointless trade now to give up a treasured first round pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzer40 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Does anyone here think that the Colts wouldn't be 7-3 if they never made this trade? Doesn't it seem like a pointless trade now to give up a treasured first round pick? I've been saying this since the minute it was announced. It's always stupid to give up a 1st rder. for a RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Neon Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Does anyone here think that the Colts wouldn't be 7-3 if they never made this trade? Doesn't it seem like a pointless trade now to give up a treasured first round pick?Not sure we beat the Seahawks or the Texans without his contributions. I think we'd be much closer to .500 without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Not sure we beat the Seahawks or the Texans without his contributions. I think we'd be much closer to .500 without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I wasn't going to go there......Because I new someone else would fairly quick...Figured I'd keep my trap shut for once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Neon Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 image.jpgHe made key plays to help us win both games. Maybe somebody else makes those plays if he's not here. Maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 it's interesting how DB sucked his first 4 years with the colts and now that TRich is on the team, DB is having a (well overdue) breakout season.. coincidence? i don't think so ;) Some might say Brown is now doing so well because he's in the last year of his contract. In other words, he's playing great so he can get a very good 2nd contract. This happens a LOT in sports, not just football. It happens in baseball, basketball and hockey too.... Players get extra motivated to get that next contract. That said, this is more than I think anyone here thought Brown could do week in and week out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Showalter Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 If Brown can stay healthy splitting downs with TRich, then TRich at least has some value... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 It is true that we are winning, but trent so far has had no part of it. In fact he might even be holding us back. I do hope he gets better next season with a full offseason under his belt but so far, he's only been a hindrance.Trent has scored a few tds and made key blocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConBro Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Can you change the word "movie" to "moving" in my post? Didn't even realize the typo. Obviously time to put the apple juice down You had me at "apple juice" ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwing BBZ Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I saw a missed assignment and a poor pickup in the TN game. Come on man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 agreed but in the mean time, nothing wrong with calling Richardsons play what it has been..Bad.......I would like to believe it gets better but after reading them quotes he is either 1 of 3 things in my opinion of course and none of which are good or possibly all 3 1.In complete denial about his play2.Trying to pull one over on the fans to keep those fans that buy what he says at face value who dont watch film (All 22)3.Not studying the playbook and truthfully believes what he says.......Not likely in my opinion but if he does then its safe to say his production wont go up soon Clearly #1 is true and I also think #2 as well..........if #3 is true then I'd like to get a late round draft pick for him come next year because at this point thats all he is worth I'd like to offer you another scenario that I think is completely realistic and even likely... I think Trent is trying not to rock the boat and take a low profile. I think he's trying not to stir things up. I don't think he wants to throw either teammates or coaches under the bus. I think he's trying to downplay the way things are so the subject will get dropped and it won't become as much of an issue. Maybe it's the wrong approach, but that's my guess here and I think it's the right way. Now perhaps he needs to throw in a few "I'm working hard but I know I can do better" type of quotes, but, as I said, I think he's trying to downplay things so the issue doesn't boil over and become any more of a distraction than it is.... Just some food for thought.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Showalter Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I'd like to offer you another scenario that I think is completely realistic and even likely... I think Trent is trying not to rock the boat and take a low profile. I think he's trying not to stir things up. I don't think he wants to throw either teammates or coaches under the bus. I think he's trying to downplay the way things are so the subject will get dropped and it won't become as much of an issue. Maybe it's the wrong approach, but that's my guess here and I think it's the right way. Now perhaps he needs to throw in a few "I'm working hard but I know I can do better" type of quotes, but, as I said, I think he's trying to downplay things so the issue doesn't boil over and become any more of a distraction than it is.... Just some food for thought....pretty much...less is more sometimes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzer40 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I'd like to offer you another scenario that I think is completely realistic and even likely... I think Trent is trying not to rock the boat and take a low profile. I think he's trying not to stir things up. I don't think he wants to throw either teammates or coaches under the bus. I think he's trying to downplay the way things are so the subject will get dropped and it won't become as much of an issue. Maybe it's the wrong approach, but that's my guess here and I think it's the right way. Now perhaps he needs to throw in a few "I'm working hard but I know I can do better" type of quotes, but, as I said, I think he's trying to downplay things so the issue doesn't boil over and become any more of a distraction than it is.... Just some food for thought.... I'm having trouble excepting that explanation. Like I said in an earlier post, unless your blind or mentally slow, then nobody is buying that nonsense. If anything, he has done nothing but create more pressure on himself by not acknowledging he's stinking it up and there is no way it is just going to be dropped as long as he keeps sucking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestQBever Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Trent has scored a few tds and made key blocks.If that's all you can say about him, your just proving my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudley Smith Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I'm having trouble excepting that explanation. Like I said in an earlier post, unless your blind or mentally slow, then nobody is buying that nonsense. If anything, he has done nothing but create more pressure on himself by not acknowledging he's stinking it up and there is no way it is just going to be dropped as long as he keeps sucking. Balzer, normally I agree with you 100%, but honestly, what do you want the man to say? Is he supposed to say "yes I am horribly overrated and a mediocre RB?" I suppose he could have just given a very generic answer of "I need to get better." Would you have liked that better? I don't think if he acknowledges to the media that he's playing poorly it's going to lessen the amount of pressure on him. I am sure he knows that if he doesn't improve, he isn't going to have a job when it is all said and done-- regardless of what he says to anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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