Colts select CB Julius Brents

[teganslaw]

I didn't know anything about Julius Brents, so glad to see that others like the choice. From comments it seems like the draft is going well. 

[Dobbinblitz]

From the Sporting News:

 

44. Indianapolis Colts (from Falcons): Julius Brents, CB, Kansas State

Grade: A

The Colts had a critical need in outside coverage after trading Stephon Gilmore to the Cowboys. Brents is another big corner in this class with a good blend of physicality and explosiveness in this class.

[stitches]

 

 

 

[NewColtsFan]

Here’s a fun little Brents story….  
 

About 7-10 days ago, the Colts held a small mini-combine for Midwest kids who might be undrafted free agents.   Maybe one or two might get drafted very late.  
 

But there was one name that jumped out of a list of maybe 35-40.  
 

Yup.  Julius Brents.   He showed up when he didn’t have to.   Seemed like he was making it crystal clear which team he hoped would draft him.   I’m happy for the Colts and Brents.   Seems like a good match for all the right reasons.  

[GoColts8818]

1 hour ago, teganslaw said:

I didn't know anything about Julius Brents, so glad to see that others like the choice. From comments it seems like the draft is going well. 

He’s a hometown kid so if nothing else it will be fun to cheer for a local kid.  

[Moosejawcolt]

2 hours ago, DougDew said:

RAS wins again.

Lacks top end speeds as do all our corners but that's why they are later picks. Good zone corner traits

[Moosejawcolt]

43 minutes ago, stitches said:

 

 

 

One thing bout Ballard is thats he's consistent lol.

[RollerColt]

Wrong thread lol sorry guys. 
 

Super stoked about our CB though. Glad to have the hometown kid!

[coltsfanej]

I like this pick. Fits Ballards mold. That length and hops can really help with the margin for error. 

[CR91]

Watched a little tape. Very long and physical corner. Not afraid to hit. Can use his hands, but needs to do better covering space. Can pinpoint the ball in the air very well.

[krunk]

 

[Yoshinator]

Great pick. We traded down twice and picked up an extra 4th and 5th before getting him. That's how you win the draft!

[Gigc]

I hope I'm totally wrong about this. He seems like a really nice kid. But I just watched game vids from him playing against TCU and Baylor and dang, he's a pass interference waiting to happen maybe he'll be OK in zone. I know he's tall an long and a big hitter... he also is a 4.53 guy at corner. Don't know. Like I said I hope I'm way off base

[GoColts8818]

8 minutes ago, Gigc said:

I hope I'm totally wrong about this. He seems like a really nice kid. But I just watched game vids from him playing against TCU and Baylor and dang, he's a pass interference waiting to happen maybe he'll be OK in zone. I know he's tall a long and a big hitter... he also is a 4.53 guy at corner. Don't know. Like I said I hope I'm way off base

 So was Rock and it took a while to get it out of him but they finally did.  I am sure Ballard feels like they can do it again.

[Dobbinblitz]

From Bleacher Report:

“Brents is an ideal fit in Gus Bradley's system. His tarantula-like length and stickiness are perfect for a scheme inspired by the old Legion of Boom scheme. Furthermore, Ballard drafts yet another prospect with an elite athletic profile. Brents posted the fourth-best relative athletic score for a cornerback of the last 36 years“

[nsurg]

2 hours ago, Moosejawcolt said:

Lacks top end speeds as do all our corners but that's why they are later picks. Good zone corner traits

Isaiah Rodgers is sitting in the dark, reading your post with a single tear running down his face, wishing his 4.28 time was considered by you on this forum to be "top end speed" 

[csmopar]

24 minutes ago, Dobbinblitz said:

From Bleacher Report:

“Brents is an ideal fit in Gus Bradley's system. His tarantula-like length and stickiness are perfect for a scheme inspired by the old Legion of Boom scheme. Furthermore, Ballard drafts yet another prospect with an elite athletic profile. Brents posted the fourth-best relative athletic score for a cornerback of the last 36 years“

So for next year, just look at the RAS and we will know exactly who we will be targeting 

[John Waylon]

Noice. 

[boo2202]

So tired of RAS scores. Not saying I don’t like the pick but a lot of these RAS scores haven’t panned out. 

[jbaron04]

11 hours ago, AustinnKaine said:

QB, CB

 

Exactly what I wanted 

 

And we still have like 9 more picks 

Brents on the big bodies Rogers on the agile shifty wideouts. Kenny in the slot 

Kenny slotted to bench lol jkJk

[jbaron04]

9 hours ago, Moosejawcolt said:

Lacks top end speeds as do all our corners but that's why they are later picks. Good zone corner traits

Not Rodgers , but yea I like to have some of these tall guys to help corner some of the new age TEs that we are gonna see

6 hours ago, boo2202 said:

So tired of RAS scores. Not saying I don’t like the pick but a lot of these RAS scores haven’t panned out. 

A lot has , the draft hit rate isn’t high for all team I think. 

[Dobbinblitz]

7 hours ago, csmopar said:

So for next year, just look at the RAS and we will know exactly who we will be targeting 

Exactly what I was thinking lol.

[Blueblood23]

11 hours ago, csmopar said:

Sell me on him, besides being a RAS Lord, what else does he bring

Yep 4&5

He’s often injured so I see why he was selected.

[throwing BBZ]

9 hours ago, Gigc said:

I hope I'm totally wrong about this. He seems like a really nice kid. But I just watched game vids from him playing against TCU and Baylor and dang, he's a pass interference waiting to happen maybe he'll be OK in zone. I know he's tall an long and a big hitter... he also is a 4.53 guy at corner. Don't know. Like I said I hope I'm way off base

 

9 hours ago, GoColts8818 said:

 So was Rock and it took a while to get it out of him but they finally did.  I am sure Ballard feels like they can do it again.

 

 ROCK, in his 3rd season, and in the 2nd half of that season played well.

He stopped grabbing so much. lol

 Rock TODAY, is Unemployed like Ngakoue.

 

 So Ballard drafts Another long Corner that is slow and has NO HOPE to chase across the field. Hopefully he proves an upgrade to Facyson.

[Rhodelesstraveled]

Terrible pick.  Looks like Tarzan and plays like Jane.  Another whiff. 

[danlhart87]

21 minutes ago, Rhodelesstraveled said:

Terrible pick.  Looks like Tarzan and plays like Jane.  Another whiff. 

You gotta be trolling at this point

[NewColtsFan]

9 hours ago, boo2202 said:

So tired of RAS scores. Not saying I don’t like the pick but a lot of these RAS scores haven’t panned out. 

And so have tons of players who don’t have high RAS scores.    The goal is to try and get three starters per draft after three years.   Just three.   
 

That factors in some lost to injuries….  Some lost to coaching.   Some lost to character.   Lots of reasons.   You see the same thing in all team sports.   Some players just don’t pan out. 

[smittywerb]

Gilmore replacement.  If we missed on Porter, this was the corner I wanted.  Or Gonzalez

[shasta519]

I love the Indy connection. But I think I might share some of the same concerns. 
 

He’s basically Marvell Tell with an extra step.
 

I look at other CBs Ballard has taken (Wilson and Rock), and for some reason, none of them seem to be fast (except Rodgers). 
 

And like those two, he’s a potential liability in man coverage and scheme-dependent. 
 

Plus, he’s a bit on the older side…much like Rock was. 
 

I don’t know…just seems like a bit of a reach.

I am just going to swap Downs and Brents in my head, so it makes more sense. 

[shasta519]

19 minutes ago, smittywerb said:

Gilmore replacement.  If we missed on Porter, this was the corner I wanted.  Or Gonzalez

More like a Facyson replacement. Gilmore was a far better NFL player. 

[shasta519]

9 hours ago, csmopar said:

So for next year, just look at the RAS and we will know exactly who we will be targeting 

It was that way last year as well. Chris over at Stampede Blue has predicted a lot of  Colts picks in recent years, likely because of the RAS scores.

 

Banogu, Paye, Pierce, Woods, Raimann, AR and Brents
 

Ballard has shifted from unpredictable to very predictable.

 

We have also yet to see this dependency on traits be overly successful. 

[NewColtsFan]

12 minutes ago, shasta519 said:

More like a Facyson replacement. Gilmore was a far better NFL prospect. 

Back when he was drafted, yes.   Off the top of my head, Gilmore was a top-10 to top-15 pick.    
 

But Brents isn’t replacing that guy.   He’s replacing Gilmore at the tail end of a likely Hall of Fame career.   And Brent’s should eventually be far, far better than Facyson at any moment of his career. 
 

I take it you’re not a fan of the Brents pick?   
 

Note:   Never mind.   I now see your earlier post.   You don’t like the pick.  Ok. 
 

[Dingus McGirt]

9 hours ago, boo2202 said:

So tired of RAS scores. Not saying I don’t like the pick but a lot of these RAS scores haven’t panned out. 

Just one of several indicators the professionals use to separate the possibles...

[GoColts8818]

The one concern with this kid is his injury history.  He’s had two PCL injuries and a wrist injury.  

[shasta519]

12 hours ago, stitches said:

 

 

 

This is where I have some beef with RAS scores. No way this Brents guy is an elite athlete with that speed. I think RAS scores put a lot of weight into size at a position as well.

 

But the Colts sure seem to like it.

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Wow, reading through some posts on this guy you would think that the consensus is close to him becoming a bust, confirmed! 
 

Let’s give him a chance to play first, I would say. 

[jvan1973]

8 minutes ago, shasta519 said:

This is where I have some beef with RAS scores. No way this Brents guy is an elite athlete with that speed. I think RAS scores put a lot of weight into size at a position as well.

 

But the Colts sure seem to like it.

Richard Sherman ran a 4.56

[csmopar]

2 hours ago, Blueblood23 said:

He’s often injured so I see why he was selected.

So Bob sanders 2.0

[csmopar]

15 minutes ago, shasta519 said:

It was that way last year as well. Chris over at Stampede Blue has predicted a lot of  Colts picks in recent years, likely because of the RAS scores.

 

Banogu, Paye, Pierce, Woods, Raimann, AR and Brents
 

Ballard has shifted from unpredictable to very predictable.

 

We have also yet to see this dependency on traits be overly successful. 

The only one of that list that has completely busted is Banogu(why is he even still here)

 

but yes, I share your concerns

[nsurg]

I'd be thrilled with a bob sanders 2.0