NFL Rules for Covid 2021 / positive tests ( merge)

[deedub75]

Just now, PrincetonTiger said:

That is about to change

 

NFL wants to move it to every 7 days for unvaccinated players but the NFLPA wants all players tested daily. We'll see what happens!

[Zoltan]

42 minutes ago, jimmy g said:

When they do, a few stars might walk away. The stars will then have to choose between money and principle.  It'll be interesting for sure.  I think the NFL is afraid of seeing who chooses which.  I know my employer is holding off for that reason. We at my job might lose 2/3 of our workforce.  But my coworkers don't make millions.  Players do.  Money is a great motivator...

 

Yeah same thing is happening with nurses, some hospitals that I know are about to lose 1/4th of their nurses, when they are already have a shortage. Overall it will be the patients that suffer.

 

But I don't think the NFLPA would allow it, there would be lawsuits that would last 5 years and the NFL won't want the bad press.

[luv_pony_express]

I’m sorry, but it’s crazy that the NFL isn’t requiring employees who they pay multi-million dollar salaries to get vaccinated.

 

Plenty of employers — including the DoD — are going to mandating it.

 

Get vaccinated or sit home without pay.

[luv_pony_express]

2 minutes ago, Zoltan said:

 

Yeah same thing is happening with nurses, some hospitals that I know are about to lose 1/4th of their nurses, when they are already have a shortage. Overall it will be the patients that suffer.

 

But I don't think the NFLPA would allow it, there would be lawsuits that would last 5 years and the NFL won't want the bad press.

Unless there’s something in the CBA (or state/federal labor law) expressly forbidding it, the owners would be well within their rights to require vaccination.

 

It’s not like they have to get the NFLPA’s permission for everything they do.  That’s not how collective bargaining works.  Things that are outside the CBA fall under management rights.

[Zoltan]

1 minute ago, luv_pony_express said:

Unless there’s something in the CBA (or state/federal labor law) expressly forbidding it, the owners would be well within their rights to require vaccination.

 

It’s not like they have to get the NFLPA’s permission for everything they do.  That’s not how collective bargaining works.  Things that are outside the CBA fall under management rights.

 

Yeah, but like most union's they will fight tooth and nail for any amount of leverage and the threat of Lawsuits and bad press will hurt the NFL's bottom line.

 

Like my brother's union if management buys them Pizza they will either throw it in the trash or just never touch it  

[PrincetonTiger]

@Wentzszn

   Any more news about any other players

 

  I was watching  and the Aces and was “offline” for a while

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3 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

@Wentzszn

   Any more news about any other players

 

  I was watching  and the Aces and was “offline” for a while

No. I think you were right. If there was any close contacts they would of been announced around the same time as Nelson.

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, Wentzszn said:

No. I think you were right. If there was any close contacts they would of been announced around the same time as Nelson.

 

 This is a good thing for QN and the Colts organization 

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Just now, PrincetonTiger said:

 

 This is a good thing for QN and the Colts organization 

Hopefully something will come  out tomorrow if Nelson was a close contact. Reich won’t say after the game bur maybe a media member will get the scoop.

[PrincetonTiger]

Look at it this way the Colts are in better shape than the Titans

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5 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

Look at it this way the Colts are in better shape than the Titans

We are clearly a better team with Nelson but we will be ok as long as Wentz plays and the rest of the oline is intact. Chris Reid is a pretty good guard.

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, Wentzszn said:

We are clearly a better team with Nelson but we will be ok as long as Wentz plays and the rest of the oline is intact. Chris Reid is a pretty good guard.

Agreed

   

[runthepost]

4 hours ago, Fluke_33 said:

I just hope the virus doesn’t mutate with his dna.  Humanity won’t survive that.  

Give me Aaron Donald DNA and it’ll be the matchup of the year. 

[PrincetonTiger]

2 minutes ago, runthepost said:

Give me Aaron Donald DNA and it’ll be the matchup of the year. 

[luv_pony_express]

1 hour ago, Zoltan said:

 

Yeah, but like most union's they will fight tooth and nail for any amount of leverage and the threat of Lawsuits and bad press will hurt the NFL's bottom line.

 

Like my brother's union if management buys them Pizza they will either throw it in the trash or just never touch it  

Trust me, as a union employer, I get it.

 

But lawsuits would be futile - unless there is something in the CBA (or in a player’s contract) that contravenes such a requirement.  And I seriously doubt there is.  There’s probably no legal holdup to requiring vaccination, now that it’s FDA approved.

 

As for PR, maybe.  But when has that stopped the NFL before? 

[open window]

The low vaccine rate pisses me off more than the Trev Alberts pick

[jvan1973]

23 minutes ago, open window said:

The low vaccine rate pisses me off more than the Trev Alberts pick

Why?  Frank was vaxed and still missed time due to a positive covid test.    A lot of vaxed individuals are still getting it.   Vaxed players will miss time this season.   

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Looking at some of the pictures and videos the colts put up leaving yesterday it looks like Hilton decided to get vaxed. You know the ones wearing a mask getting onto the plane are unvaxed most likely. But no mask it means they are vaxed.

 

It is kind of sad some of the leaders on this team aren’t leading the way on getting vaxed.

 

 

[PrincetonTiger]

1 hour ago, Wentzszn said:

Looking at some of the pictures and videos the colts put up leaving yesterday it looks like Hilton decided to get vaxed. You know the ones wearing a mask getting onto the plane are unvaxed most likely. But no mask it means they are vaxed.

 

It is kind of sad some of the leaders on this team aren’t leading the way on getting vaxed.

 

 

So true

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Michael Pittman put a new video up. It had some stuff from TC and from inside the grand park facility. I laughed because he goes I can’t show to much because of the mask policy and didn’t want to be the FBI and get anyone in trouble.

[Shive]

3 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

If they are not showing any symptoms with or without the vaccine,  what's the difference?

NFL rules are different for vaccinated and non-vaccinated players for how long they have to be out. While a positive test could cause either to miss a game, one is able to come back faster than the other.

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I was right. Nelson was a close contact to Fisher. As long as he doesn’t test positive he will be back early next week.

[stitches]

The fact that noone else got put on COVID list today is a positive. Good sign for us avoiding a breakout in the OL room.

 

Still not out of the woods because it takes time for infections to get caught sometimes, but I hope it's just Fisher and Q's close contact will remain the only sidelined player for now. 

 

It also means he will probably clear protocol sooner and be ready to play unless he tests positive in the following days.

[coming on strong]

10 hours ago, Wentzszn said:

I was right. Nelson was a close contact to Fisher. As long as he doesn’t test positive he will be back early next week.

what is the time limit for close contacts ?  is it still 5 days or if nelson is unvaxed is it longer?

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33 minutes ago, coming on strong said:

what is the time limit for close contacts ?  is it still 5 days or if nelson is unvaxed is it longer?

5 days as long as he doesn’t test positive. He should be back WED.

 

Reich also said Fisher is at a place in his rehab he can do everything from home. I still expect him though to miss 2 or 3 games. He is going to need some practice time.

[#12.]

Moving forward, I would not bring in a single player who isn't vaccinated. You're playing Russian roulette.  You could have an amazing season, but lose your QB or other star players right before the Super Bowl.

[John Waylon]

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[icf]

Sheesh....

 

Indianapolis Colts on Twitter: "We have placed C Ryan Kelly, WR Zach Pascal and QB Carson Wentz on the Reserve/COVID-19 list." / Twitter

 

[deedub75]

Inevitable. 

[twfish]

like all i can even do any more is just lol

[MB-ColtsFan]

Just now, Wentzszn said:

 

...and so it continues.  This will probably only continue on until everyone gets vaccinated.  Ugh....

[Fluke_33]

[twfish]

1 minute ago, MB-ColtsFan said:

...and so it continues.  This will probably only continue on until everyone gets vaccinated.  Ugh....

Wishful thinking, even if everyone gets vaccinated it will still happen....

[Indyfan4life]

It’s comical at this point. 

[stitches]

Kelly and Wentz not vaccinated. Don't know about Pascal. Hopefully it's the close contact reason, otherwise they all will likely miss the first game. 

[PrincetonTiger]

[John Waylon]

I mean who didn’t see it coming? Seriously?

 

And it’s not even Week 1! 
 

This team is doing all it can to derail its own chances. 

[MB-ColtsFan]

1 minute ago, twfish said:

Wishful thinking, even if everyone gets vaccinated it will still happen....

Yep, true, but at least the time away would be shortened if they are vaccinated, i believe?

[coming on strong]

Just now, stitches said:

Kelly and Wentz not vaccinated. Don't know about Pascal. Hopefully it's the close contact reason, otherwise they all will likely miss the first game. 

It’s only ten days to be brought back so next Thursday but wentz would have to play with no practice