Tampering is upon us!

[richard pallo]

2 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

I'd take Amos in a heartbeat. Problem is that we aren't interested from what I heard, Collins we were.

Well I guess we can take comfort in knowing Ballard was in pursuit FWIW. 

[NewEra]

12 minutes ago, Nesjan3 said:

I like Ballards approach, but were going to pay someone, sometime... aren't we? I would have paid Collins...

Yeah, our own guys

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Have we heard any more speculation on Tyrell Williams yet?

[IinD]

Collins wanted to play for a winner.

 

Alex Smith and his one leg, no Colt Mcoy and his, no that guy Denver just got rid of, wait what?? 

 

[Fisticuffs111]

2 minutes ago, #12. said:

 

Give it a few days.  I'm sure Ballard was prepared to give Collins a huge deal, just not that huge.  Someone's gonna get paid.

Oh definitely, we're not gonna sit out of free agency or anything.

[21 reasons]

give earl thomas 30M over 2 years... He can actually cover.

[Mr.Debonair]

2 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Have we heard any more speculation on Tyrell Williams yet?

Don’t expect him here at this point lol. Ballard appears to be a hoarder

[stitches]

 

Pats are playing the comp pick game very well.. 

[Barry Sears]

4 minutes ago, IinD said:

Collins wanted to play for a winner.

 

Alex Smith and his one leg, no Colt Mcoy and his, no that guy Denver just got rid of, wait what?? 

 

 

Maybe they'll sign Kerry Collins next....5 years, 100 million

[PeterBowman]

1 minute ago, stitches said:

 

Pats are playing the comp pick game very well.. 

They have that down to a science. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Any team that puts that much money into a safety is just stupid. Glad we have a smart GM.

[IinD]

1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

Any team that puts that much money into a safety is just stupid. Glad we have a smart GM.

It's scary to think about what Q and Leonard will cost us in a few years looking at these #'s. 

 

[NewEra]

Polish used to say it best. The first days of FA are usually extremely overpriced. The second tier is where you get value. 

 

I jave ave yet to see a team win who won in FA. Skins, Eagles....

Just now, IinD said:

It's scary to think about what Q and Leonard will cost us in a few years looking at these #'s. 

 

We won't ever let them hit free agency

[richard pallo]

I know one guy who is happy for Collins.  Malik Hooker.  Same agent.

[shasta519]

2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Polish used to say it best. The first days of FA are usually extremely overpriced. The second tier is where you get value. 

 

I jave ave yet to see a team win who won in FA. Skins, Eagles....

 

I didn't know the Polish were so wise when it came to the NFL. 

[MikeCurtis]

DEEP Breaths

 

DEEP Breaths

 

Its all good ........ 

 

In Ballard we trust.........

 

Also know...... SOME of these deals will be huge....... but the team is ONLY on the hook for the guaranteed portion.........

 

So far...... we only lost one that I thought we would make a run at this week.......   (dang detroit)

[Coltsfan1953]

2 minutes ago, shastamasta said:

 

I didn't know the Polish were so wise when it came to the NFL.

It comes from having to deal with the Cossacks. 

 

[stitches]

 

[runthepost]

5 years 70 million is most likely what we offered 

[csmopar]

 

[IinD]

Polian do something...!!!

 

A classic line around these parts.. Lol

[shasta519]

1 minute ago, runthepost said:

5 years 70 million is most likely what we offered 

 

I think the gtd money was what mattered. Hard to imagine a 30-31 year old Collins getting that money on the back end.

[csmopar]

17 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Have we heard any more speculation on Tyrell Williams yet?

nope

[Valpo2004]

8 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Polish used to say it best. The first days of FA are usually extremely overpriced. The second tier is where you get value. 

 

I jave ave yet to see a team win who won in FA. Skins, Eagles....

We won't ever let them hit free agency

 

9 minutes ago, IinD said:

It's scary to think about what Q and Leonard will cost us in a few years looking at these #'s. 

 

 

We might not let them hit the open market but they are both likely to set the market when we do extend them.  (Presuming they keep playing at a high level and don't have major injury issues.)

 

Market at guard right now is at 14M and a non pass rushing OLB it's at 11.1.

 

But the cap will grow.  You know not too long ago everyone was worried about Luck's contract and he was the highest paid player in the NFL for a little bit.  Now he's #8 among QB's between Drew Brees and Alex Smith.

 

 

[BProland85]

8 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

I know one guy who is happy for Collins.  Malik Hooker.  Same agent.

 

Hooker has to show he can stay healthy first. 

[stitches]

 

[csmopar]

 

[IinD]

Just now, csmopar said:

 

Lol.... Winning group right there..

[TomDiggs]

1 minute ago, BProland85 said:

 

Hooker has to show he can stay healthy first. 

 

I just say this to playfully joke with you, but Kwon Alexander begs to differ  :-P

 

Kwon has played in 46 of 64 games in 4 years.

 

Hooker has played in 21 of 32 games in 2 years.

 

Not that far off. And Kwon just got bank and the Safety market is potentially being re-set (though we will see if anyone other than Collins gets paid big bank).

 

Just saying that there's always some team willing to back up a Brinks truck for talent. Even injured, unfulfilled talent lol

[Boiler_Colt]

3 minutes ago, BProland85 said:

 

Hooker has to show he can stay healthy first. 

Or hopefully by then the roster is in good enough shape that if he leaves, you don't sweat it and enjoy the high comp pick.

[Finball]

24 minutes ago, csmopar said:

 

Name a NE FA that has left NE and played to the level of his contract... I'll wait. 

 

Aqib Talib, Danny Woodhead, Akiem Hicks.. Probably/possibly Logan Ryan as well.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

This Collins contract might even effect if we can get Geathers back.

[PeterBowman]

Just now, Finball said:

 

Aqib Talib, Danny Woodhead, Akiem Hicks.. Probably/possibly Logan Ryan as well.

Sheard as well

[csmopar]

In Ballard we Trust

[Finball]

1 minute ago, PeterBowman said:

Sheard as well

 

Yeah him too, can't believe I forgot him.

[shasta519]

4 minutes ago, Finball said:

 

Aqib Talib, Danny Woodhead, Akiem Hicks.. Probably/possibly Logan Ryan as well.

 

Chandler Jones is probably the most obvious. 

[aavmarine]

I find it funny that most of you guys never want the Colts to spend the money (even when we have the most cap space), on these big time proven players, that could come in and truly make a difference on this team from the start.  Especially when these top tier players are that young and would be with us for 4-5 years. But are you all still going to be saying this when Nelson and Leonard are do their next contract? Especially when they will still be young. If they continue to play like they did this past season, they will both be at the top of their positions, and be demanding these same or more kind of contracts. Will you be saying the same thing? 

[Coffeedrinker]

50 minutes ago, csmopar said:

Ticked off Colts fans blowing up twitter 

Yeah, but for Colts fans by this time tomorrow Collins will be an overpriced, money grabbing safety that is greatly over-rated.

[shasta519]

1 minute ago, csmopar said:

In Ballard we Trust

 

I think re-signing your own belongs in a separate bucket of moves. 

[IndyD4U]

Just now, aavmarine said:

I find it funny that most of you guys never want the Colts to spend the money (even when we have the most cap space), on these big time proven players, that could come in and truly make a difference on this team from the start.  Especially when these top tier players are that young and would be with us for 4-5 years. But are you all still going to be saying this when Nelson and Leonard are do their next contract? Especially when they will still be young. If they continue to play like they did this past season, they will both be at the top of their positions, and be demanding these same or more kind of contracts. Will you be saying the same thing? 

 

How'd that work out for Grigson?

 

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