If Colts have a top 5 pick but unable to trade down....who do you take?

[PeterBowman]

Thought I'd have a little fun with this.

 

Let's say the Colts stay where they're at draft position wise and there's no trade down available.

 

There's lots of good players available and a good chance most of the teams in front of them will be looking at quarterbacks (though no guarantee of course).

 

Who are the top 2 players that you would choose?

 

mine either:

 

1) Quenton Nelson

2) Bradley Chubb

[BProland85]

First of all, I think there will be opportunities to trade down with a top 5 pick. It's just if you're asking for too much that could prevent the trade from happening. 

 

But if I had to pick someone with the 5th overall pick, I'd go either Saquan Barkley or Nelson. 

[PeterBowman]

Just now, BProland85 said:

First of all, I think there will be opportunities to trade down with a top 5 pick. It's just if you're asking for too much that could prevent the trade from happening. 

 

But if I had to pick someone with the 5th overall pick, I'd go either Saquan Barkley or Nelson. 

Oh I agree that there will be opportunity to trade down in reality...luckily this is just for the sake of argument and something to talk about until draft season really begins in a few weeks.

[danlhart87]

I have 2 options. 

1. Quenton Nelson OG 

2. Roquan Smith ILB

 

Nobody else interest me.

Barkley is great but you need a line first 

[The Peytonator]

I’d be all in on Nelson. As far as I’ve seen he’s the only elite prospect. I’m not sold on Chubb or Barkley. 

[danlhart87]

Here's how much I want Nelson... I would take him even if we had #1 pick 

[Colts_Fan12]

7 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

Here's how much I want Nelson... I would take him even if we had #1 pick 

Glad you don't run the team 

[Yoshinator]

Haven't studied the draft yet. Why has Mcglinchley fallen so far? Did he regress a lot or something? I always wait until the college season is over to watch tape and work on the draft.

[Defjamz26]

1 hour ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Haven't studied the draft yet. Why has Mcglinchley fallen so far? Did he regress a lot or something? I always wait until the college season is over to watch tape and work on the draft.

He got worked against Georgia and Miami pass rushers. The talk is that he struggles with speed rushers. Not to mention he isn’t even the best lineman on his team

 

2 hours ago, danlhart87 said:

I have 2 options. 

1. Quenton Nelson OG 

2. Roquan Smith ILB

 

Nobody else interest me.

Barkley is great but you need a line first 

Pretty much how I feel. Not sold on Chubb or Key. I’d consider Connor Williams as well though.

[Colts_Fan12]

Nelson is who I want good thing we will be able to trade down tho 

[danlhart87]

2 hours ago, Colts_Fan12 said:

Glad you don't run the team 

Name another pick that would be adequate then.

[Colts_Fan12]

6 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

Name another pick that would be adequate then.

No team would take a guard 1st overall you realize how stupid that sounds 

[Dark Superman]

Most likely Chubb.

[Colts_Fan12]

1 minute ago, Dark Superman said:

Most likely Chubb.

The better 4-3 rusher wanna do that again huh

[throwing BBZ]

Who will be top on Ballards board?  And i wouldn't trade down if Fitz is available.

Minkah Fitzpatrick

Bradly Chubb

[csmopar]

Not sure at this point.  With the Bowl games still to come, its hard to say whos gonna be there.  But if a stud OL or LB is there, you get him.

 

Side Note: All I know is the Texans are gonna be hurting.  They dont have a 1st or 2nd, both in the top 10 of those rounds.  

[csmopar]

16 minutes ago, throwing BBZ said:

Who will be top on Ballards board?  And i wouldn't trade down if Fitz is available.

Minkah Fitzpatrick

 

you want to take another safety after just getting Hooker last year?!  And use a top 5 pick?

[richard pallo]

BPA in a position of need.  Ignoring FA it would be Nelson, Barkley, Chubb. 

[austriancolt]

Quenton Nelson! Why?

 

Colts Offensive Line is a mess since years and as a result you have your franchise QB seriously injured and with Luck the Colts game rise and fall so it is obvious that you have to everything to protect him. It's a no brainer even if it means to invest a top 5 pick in OL. Protect Luck is Priority Nr. 1

 

Quenton Nelson in my eyes is a blue chip player and the best OL in this years draft probably one of the best coming out the last years. I think you are not gambling by picking him plus he fills a huge need as I mentioned above. I think he is worth the nr. 5 pick even if you think a guy like Saquon Barkley would be the best player to pick.

 

You need a line to block, you need a line to pass protect and the Colts line is still a huge mess and you can't simply afford to get Luck hurt again. So go with Nelson he will improve our Line and that will improve our running game and you can afford to pick a back later in the draft that in combination with an improved line gives you a better production.

[NorthernBlue]

I'm against taking guards early in drafts since you can always find quality guards later in drafts and through FA. But the Colts don't have time to tinker with that kind of thinking right now. Especially with Luck still on the mend and the bevy of pass rushers in the AFC South. 

 

Gotta protect Luck. As much as this defense needs some star talent, I think Nelson just has to be the pick.

 

If they do go D though, Chubb is a fine option. 

[gacoop1]

I think Luck is damaged goods.  

 

Draft:

1.Sam Darnold

2.Saquan Barkley

[Luck 4 president]

If we can fix our line through FA then I’d get Barkley or minkah Fitzpatrick. If not then obviously Nelson/Williams 

[UKColt13]

All depends on who’s gone. Let’s say Rosen, Barkley and QB2 have gone. I’d probably take Chubb at this point. Giving us a stud pass rusher off the edge helps the entire defense. I’d look at the exterior Olinemen as well.

[unvrsty07]

On 12/1/2017 at 1:35 PM, csmopar said:

you want to take another safety after just getting Hooker last year?!  And use a top 5 pick?

 

He can play FS, SS, outside CB, slot CB, and in the box as a LB. Yes, definitely a top 5 pick.

[csmopar]

14 minutes ago, unvrsty07 said:

 

He can play FS, SS, outside CB, slot CB, and in the box as a LB. Yes, definitely a top 5 pick.

got a source? 

[JColts72]

There are so many BAD NFL teams and watch the Colts fall out of the top 5.

[csmopar]

1 hour ago, JColts72 said:

There are so many BAD NFL teams and watch the Colts fall out of the top 5.

Eh i dont see us winning anymore games..... we'll be somewhere top 8 at the worst

[JColts72]

11 minutes ago, csmopar said:

Eh i dont see us winning anymore games..... we'll be somewhere top 8 at the worst

Bills are bad as are Denver and Texans, possible 5 and 11; but 3 and 13 would help in the draft

[csmopar]

15 minutes ago, JColts72 said:

Bills are bad as are Denver and Texans, possible 5 and 11; but 3 and 13 would help in the draft

i know, but we barely hung on to beat Cleveland..... and I think the Denver game will be close but I do think they win.  the Texans will roll us.

[Colts_Fan12]

26 minutes ago, csmopar said:

i know, but we barely hung on to beat Cleveland..... and I think the Denver game will be close but I do think they win.  the Texans will roll us.

Hope you are right lol if we lose out we could move up if some other teams win another game 

[JColts72]

29 minutes ago, csmopar said:

i know, but we barely hung on to beat Cleveland..... and I think the Denver game will be close but I do think they win.  the Texans will roll us.

Texans are bad since their rookie QB went down and Watt again on D.

[Indy Fan]

22 hours ago, csmopar said:

got a source? 

Just about every scouting report says he can play all DB positions. I wouldn’t say he could play backer like mentioned earlier.

 

@OP, I would be good with any of the following

1. Nelson

2. Fitzpatrick

 

[unvrsty07]

On 12/4/2017 at 10:28 AM, csmopar said:

got a source? 

 

" Fitzpatrick is the intellectual soul of Saban's defense, the closest thing Saban has to a proxy on the field. Fitzpatrick can play every position in Alabama's defensive backfield, and he generally knows the complete mechanics of Saban's defense, whatever the formation."

 

" Scouts are nearly unanimous that Fitzpatrick—barring any unforeseen issues at the combine—will almost certainly be picked somewhere near the top of the first round of the NFL draft next spring. NFL Media's Daniel Jeremiah recently compared him to a bigger iteration of Arizona Cardinals cornerback Tyrann Mathieu"

 

Worth a read:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2741651-alabamas-minkah-fitzpatrick-has-nick-sabans-brain-in-an-nfl-stars-body

[Coltfreak]

You take BPA.  Period

[csmopar]

23 minutes ago, unvrsty07 said:

 

" Fitzpatrick is the intellectual soul of Saban's defense, the closest thing Saban has to a proxy on the field. Fitzpatrick can play every position in Alabama's defensive backfield, and he generally knows the complete mechanics of Saban's defense, whatever the formation."

 

" Scouts are nearly unanimous that Fitzpatrick—barring any unforeseen issues at the combine—will almost certainly be picked somewhere near the top of the first round of the NFL draft next spring. NFL Media's Daniel Jeremiah recently compared him to a bigger iteration of Arizona Cardinals cornerback Tyrann Mathieu"

 

Worth a read:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2741651-alabamas-minkah-fitzpatrick-has-nick-sabans-brain-in-an-nfl-stars-body

Nice read for sure. But if Nelson is there, I think we gotta go OL over DB. 

[King Colt]

The players Ballard wants and none of the players Irsay wants.

[crazycolt1]

12 minutes ago, King Colt said:

The players Ballard wants and none of the players Irsay wants.

Do you even know the history of Jim Irsay and the Colts?

[King Colt]

23 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

Do you even know the history of Jim Irsay and the Colts?

Go to bed

[crazycolt1]

6 minutes ago, King Colt said:

Go to bed

If you knew the history of Jim Irsay then you would know he lets his GMs and their scouts make the draft picks.

[bananabucket]

1. Saquon Barkley

2. Quenton Nelson

 

I love Chubb and Fitzpatrick and wouldn't hesitate to take either top 5, but both of them are questionable fits for us unfortunately.  That said, I wouldn't complain with either.