The "safety"

[RockThatBlue]

Not that it matters now, but that call was huge and really hurt a shot at us coming back. The ball was not in the end zone. That was simply a bad call in my opinion. Am I right?

[MTC]

It was the right call. 

 

The ball was no where near Nicks.

[RockThatBlue]

It was the right call.

The ball was no where near Nicks.

Maybe I need to see a replay of it, I honestly don't remember where or how close Nicks wasn't. Either way it hurt us bad

[wesd2890]

Lucks was in the end zone.. nicks was far away from the ball.. unfortunate play but good call by the refs

[ColtsRule815]

It was the right call. 

 

The ball was no where near Nicks.

Since it wasn't in the endzone, it should have been intentional grounding.

[jabbanobadda]

Intentional grounding was correct but his hand was out of the end zone when the ball was released. It should have been our ball on the 6 inch line.

[Indianapolis-Colts-Fan]

According to the rule when the ball is released from lucks hand in order for it to be a safety the ball has to still be breaking the plain once it is released. Looked like a bad call to me after seeing a slow mo replay. The ball was not in the endzone. It was intentional grounding though.

[RockThatBlue]

According to the rule when the ball is released from lucks hand in order for it to be a safety the ball has to still be breaking the plain once it is released. Looked like a bad call to me after seeing a slow mo replay. The ball was not in the endzone. It was intentional grounding though.

Thats what I thought I saw.

[Andrew Luck fan club]

Really close call could go either way.

[Blue Horseshoe]

It was hard to tell exactly where the ball was because a player was in the way.  That is why the review concluded "The call on the field stands" instead of the "the call on the field is confirmed".

[Mr.Debonair]

I wonder if Luck thought about handing it to Boom while he was on the ground instead of throwing it

[Jason_]

I wonder if Luck thought about handing it to Boom while he was on the ground instead of throwing it

Yeah unfortunately luck didn't see boom in time but he was right there and luck could have just flicked the ball to him.

[21isSuperman]

The call was bad, but that's 100% on Luck.  Just stretch the ball out of the endzone and live for the next play.  He's always trying to do too much (ie. throwing the ball away when he's about to be sacked) and it's let to turnovers.  Make the safe play and move on to the next one

[ColtsLegacy]

Yeah unfortunately luck didn't see boom in time but he was right there and luck could have just flicked the ball to him.

Yeah, I'm not upset about the call. I'm upset that Luck didn't roll out of the end zone or, better yet, flick it to Boom. Either one of those choices would have avoided the safety.

[GoColts8818]

I thought his hand and ball were out of the endzone. Grounding was the right call that was exactly why that rule was put in there. Still thought it should have been Colts ball at the one yard line just out of the endzone.

[GoColts8818]

I wonder if Luck thought about handing it to Boom while he was on the ground instead of throwing it

or at least just droping it at Booms feet.

[ricker182]

He could have thrown it into the back of a lineman, no?

[Steamboat_Shaun]

I'm still trying to figure out why they were throwing it in the first place. Down by 8, backed up against the goal line against a blitzing D? Why not run the ball?

[GoColts8818]

He could have thrown it into the back of a lineman, no?

no he can't but boom was right in front of him. He could have just thrown it at his feet or better yet roll out of the endzone and get touched down and live to fight another day.

[Dr. Guildo]

It was the right call. 

 

The ball was no where near Nicks.

The safety was the bad part because his arm was out of the endzone the grounding was indeed right.

[ricker182]

The safety was the bad part because his arm was out of the endzone the grounding was indeed right.

The ball needs to be out, not his arm, but I agree with you.

[VaAllDay757]

Luck could've rolled back on the 1 or 2 yard line and took the sack but I see he panicked which is natural

[jabbanobadda]

He also could have done a backwards somersault then gotten up and ran for a 100 yd td. Most of you criticizing Luck's decision in this situation probably take more than a couple of minutes deciding between a big Mac or a quarter pounder when in line at McDonald's.

[GoColts8818]

He also could have done a backwards somersault then gotten up and ran for a 100 yd td. Most of you criticizing Luck's decision in this situation probably take more than a couple of minutes deciding between a big Mac or a quarter pounder when in line at McDonald's.

there is huge difference in saying he could have crawled back to the one yard line to avoid a safety or dumped the ball at Booms feet who was right in front of him and saying what you said. Also, you don't have to be as good as Andrew Luck is at football to see other things he could have done. If that were the case only a guy like Peyton Manning could coach him. Lastly, pointing out other things Luck could have done on a play that had a major impact on the game is hardly criticizing him. It was a bad play, I am sure once he sees the film even Luck would tell you that, no one is calling for Lucks head over it.

[Coltswarriors]

It was definitely intentional grounding, but the ball was out of the end zone.

 

Good call on throwing the flag, but shouldn't have been a safety.

[ukcolt12]

Intentional grounding wasn't a safety in my book as the ball had gone before it crossed the plain.  

It was a game changer which was a shame, much like offside penalty when they have to kick a field goal and the pick 6 of course. 

Key moments which cost us.  I actually thought we where going to come back form this one

[CroatianColtsFan21]

Luck could've rolled back on the 1 or 2 yard line and took the sack but I see he panicked which is natural

 

i think the momentum was rolling him backwards, so he couldn't just stop and roll out..

[Valpo2004]

Looked like a good call to me.  

[ruksak]

It was one of those thigns that I'm not prepared to blame anyone for, not even the refs. 

 

He tripped over his linemans foot, something that happens to the best of them. Luck panicked a bit, and seemingly forgot he could just get the ball out of the endzone, thinking because his butt was in the endzone, it would be a safety if he got touched. 

 

Technically, it SHOULD have been an incomplete pass. Not only was the ball released entirely out of the the endzone, but I do believe the ball was tipped, making the balls final resting place in relation to the nearest receiver negligible. Does anyone who DVR'd it know if the ball was indeed tipped? Or did it hit an Olineman and not a defender? 

[Valpo2004]

It was one of those thigns that I'm not prepared to blame anyone for, not even the refs. 

 

He tripped over his linemans foot, something that happens to the best of them. Luck panicked a bit, and seemingly forgot he could just get the ball out of the endzone, thinking because his butt was in the endzone, it would be a safety if he got touched. 

 

Technically, it SHOULD have been an incomplete pass. Not only was the ball released entirely out of the the endzone, but I do believe the ball was tipped, making the balls final resting place in relation to the nearest receiver negligible. Does anyone who DVR'd it know if the ball was indeed tipped? Or did it hit an Olineman and not a defender? 

 

I didn't see the ball get tipped.  I'm pretty sure no matter how you slice it that was a intentional grounding penalty.  There where probably a couple ways out of it, but in the heat of the moment I don't think Luck had the time to consider all his options.

 

Perhaps the best way would have been to spike the ball near Boom's feet.  

 

As long as boom is in front of Luck it's a forward pass and since the ball landed near him it wouldn't be intentional grounding.  

[ruksak]

I didn't see the ball get tipped.  I'm pretty sure no matter how you slice it that was a intentional grounding penalty.  There where probably a couple ways out of it, but in the heat of the moment I don't think Luck had the time to consider all his options.

 

Perhaps the best way would have been to spike the ball near Boom's feet.  

 

As long as boom is in front of Luck it's a forward pass and since the ball landed near him it wouldn't be intentional grounding.  

Sad thing is, at that point, we were only down by 8 points with some 9 minutes left. What happened there should provide some relief for Cotls fans, as that series of plays showed, sometimes, you cannot catch a break and every little piece of minutia went against us. We get a score stopping fumble recovery, and it actually hurt us, because not only did Pitt get 2 points, they got the ball back and scored again. 

 

Everything went wrong, and that's the randomness of the game aligning perfectly against us. There are genuine worries, but if our coaching staff is half as good as we think they are, they'll figure out how to prevent such a thing form happening again. 

[Valpo2004]

Sad thing is, at that point, we were only down by 8 points with some 9 minutes left. What happened there should provide some relief for Cotls fans, as that series of plays showed, sometimes, you cannot catch a break and every little piece of minutia went against us. We get a score stopping fumble recovery, and it actually hurt us, because not only did Pitt get 2 points, they got the ball back and scored again. 

 

Everything went wrong, and that's the randomness of the game aligning perfectly against us. There are genuine worries, but if your coaching staff is half as good as we think they are, they'll figure out how to prevent such a thing form happening again. 

 

I think everyone is happy with the way the offense performed as a whole.  The big concern is however that we just couldn't get any pressure on Ben.  Very few of their drives didn't end in a TD.  

[ProblChld32]

Not that it matters now, but that call was huge and really hurt a shot at us coming back. The ball was not in the end zone. That was simply a bad call in my opinion. Am I right?

 

Agreed you can clearly see the ball was released outside of the endzone. 

[BOTT]

Looked like a good call to me.

It was a horrible call. The replay clearly showed his hand was across the goal line when he released the ball. I'm not sure what replay is for if they can't even be conclusive about that.

[UKCOLT17]

It was a horrible call. The replay clearly showed his hand was across the goal line when he released the ball. I'm not sure what replay is for if they can't even be conclusive about that.

 

seems like we dont know the rules well alot of people but am sure i heard mike carey say aslong as he releases the ball out the endzone its not a safety

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000419582/article/blandino-correct-calls-on-steve-smith-andrew-luck

 "This was an obvious call," Blandino said. "He has to get the ball in an area where there's an eligible receiver. And when we talk about whether this is a safety or not, you can see his body is in the end zone, and the key is, in order for it not to be a safety, his entire body and the ball must be in the field of play when the ball is released. So this is intentional grounding. It is a safety."

[Gavin]

The ball landed at the 7-8 yard line when it hit the ground....Nicks was standing on the 20, Lucks butt was the first part of his body to hit the ground...at that time the ball was NOT in the end zone...... his momentum continued to carry him onto his back at which time the ball was in the end zone where he cocked the ball back to throw....Safety.....Side note: Thorntons stance n that play made it predictable where he was going on that play

[Narcosys]

Dean blandino went on espn and was asked about that. He says the ball and luck have to be out of the end zone.

[crazycolt1]

The outcome of the game did not come down to this one play. Luck and the offense were put in a bad situation by very poor defense. You let any QB throw for over 500 yards and 6 TDs the Colts were lucky even to have been in the game. Why even discuss one bad play the offense made when their backs were against the wall the whole game. We gave up 28 points in one quarter. For those who point a finger at Luck and saying what he could have or should have done is just plain nit picking. Without Luck it would have been one of the worst beat downs this team has ever taken.

[peytonmanning18]

Does the ball have to be out or the ball and QB?

[OffensivelyPC]

It was the right call. 

 

The ball was no where near Nicks.

Assuming the ball was out of the endzone when he threw it (which it was a difficult call, so I'm okay with the play standing) when they called intentional grounding, then it should have been placed on the 1 inch line.  But like I said, I still agree it was the right call.