PrincetonTiger Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 What do you think the Colts should do with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted August 17, 2014 Author Share Posted August 17, 2014 I feel he should be let go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosiernsavga Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 He's gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestQBever Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 we don't need him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1yrdandacloudofdust Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I was never in favor of a fullback. Allen can play H back, amd if he gets hurt, put Trent @ FB. Might as well try to get something out of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I'll take stumbling Mario HarveyBy far the funniest catch of the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I would cut him, I like Harvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcolt Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I wouldn't keep a FB period don't know what that means for Harvey. The offense struggles every time Pep goes back to his FB power crap we don't have the O Line for it. We have weapons and a lot of them make the other team put a lot of little guys out there to match our speed gash them with TE's and RB's Short yardage line up Allen as the FB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 If he's healthy, I think he's our FB. If not, he either goes to the IR or he gets cut. I suspect it's too soon to know....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted August 17, 2014 Author Share Posted August 17, 2014 If he's healthy, I think he's our FB. If not, he either goes to the IR or he gets cut. I suspect it's too soon to know.......It is going to be too late very soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueShoe Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Keep him on PUP and worry about it in week 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twfish Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 He gone..... I think. I like Harvey alot, plus he can always double as a line backer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I wouldn't keep a FB period don't know what that means for Harvey. The offense struggles every time Pep goes back to his FB power crap we don't have the O Line for it.We have weapons and a lot of them make the other team put a lot of little guys out there to match our speed gash them with TE's and RB'sShort yardage line up Allen as the FB 100%We need to be a 1 Back offense like Alabama isMakes no sense to have a FB who'd be the worst weapon on the field when called in the gameWe need to do whatever we can to keep our threats out there inHiltonWayneNicksAllenFleenerRichardson (Like his ability as a pass catcher & blocker)Running a FB in this offense is a waste of roster space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 He's better than Harvey and Cameron White. I would say keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1959Colts Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Grigson won't cut Havili. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOUR GM Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Havili isn't even a true fullback, so I don't much see the point in having him unless you just want him for special teams. Allen does everything Havili is capable of doing, except much better. At least Harvey can actually block. I'd say keep him if we absolutely have to have a fullback on the roster. Havili is just a tweener who really doesn't excel at any one aspect of what he's asked to do. A semi-decent receiving fullback who can't block pretty much negates the point of even having him on the field. That's like having a center in basketball that can pass really well but can't rebound, block or score in the post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsLegacy Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 One thing is for sure, Harvey hasn't made him redundant. Harvey may be a solid blocker but he clearly has no business as a receiving FB and in Pep's offense the FB needs to be able to catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Keep him on PUP and worry about it in week 7. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 He's better than Harvey and Cameron White. I would say keep him. I liked the little bit of Cameron White I saw last night. He seems like he has better hands and feet than Harvey does, and he laid a couple of good-looking blocks as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsLegacy Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I liked the little bit of Cameron White I saw last night. He seems like he has better hands and feet than Harvey does, and he laid a couple of good-looking blocks as well. That's for sure, but that's not exactly saying much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcolt Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Grigson won't cut Havili.He is Pep's pet hopefully not many more season's of that guy I here Vanderbilt is nice this time of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProblChld32 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Cut him, Harvey is the better blocker and from what i heard not a bad pass catcher either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Showalter Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 100%We need to be a 1 Back offense like Alabama isMakes no sense to have a FB who'd be the worst weapon on the field when called in the gameWe need to do whatever we can to keep our threats out there inHiltonWayneNicksAllenFleenerRichardson (Like his ability as a pass catcher & blocker)Running a FB in this offense is a waste of roster spacegood point that gets overlooked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Why cut him? if the coaches are determined to have the FB crap let him get healthy he is a way better FB then Harvey is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Why cut him? if the coaches are determined to have the FB crap let him get healthy he is a way better FB then Harvey is.......... That's debatable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 .......... That's debatableNot even close I trust Havili's hands more then Harvey when healthy Havili is pretty good catching passes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcolt Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Havili was the 5th worst lead blocker in the league last yr with our weapons why waste a play throwing to a FB if Pep can't help himself line Allen up there throw it to him.FB waste of a slot in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Havili was the 5th worst lead blocker in the league last yr with our weapons why waste a play throwing to a FB if Pep can't help himself line Allen up there throw it to him.FB waste of a slot in my opinion How is throwing to a FB a waste of a play if the play gains good yardage? Also, Allen is not a good lead blocker from the backfield, so when you want to use a big package on the goalline or in short yardage, it's better to have a real FB. Havili didn't do a good job as a lead blocker last year, so it doesn't have to be him. But if we have someone who can clear a path and is nimble enough to catch a few passes in the flat and gain some yardage, that's a good use of a roster spot, IMO. If we don't have a guy that's good enough to warrant using a spot on him, then don't. Neither of our two active FBs have played a whole lot of snaps so far, so I don't know how much of a role any of those guys is going to have in our offense. Havili can be stored on PUP for a while, so he's not taking up a roster spot right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Not even close I trust Havili's hands more then Harvey when healthy Havili is pretty good catching passesAnd I trust Coby FleenerDwayne AllenReggie WayneTy HiltonHakeem NicksGriff WhalenTrent RichardsonAhmad BradshawBoom HereinDonate MoncriefHands more than Harvey & Havili put together. Thus providing solid argument as to why we shouldn't carry a FB period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 And I trust Coby FleenerDwayne AllenReggie WayneTy HiltonHakeem NicksGriff WhalenTrent RichardsonAhmad BradshawBoom HereinDonate MoncriefHands more than Harvey & Havili put together. Thus providing solid argument as to why we shouldn't carry a FB periodI wish I hate the FB crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 And I trustCoby FleenerDwayne AllenReggie WayneTy HiltonHakeem NicksGriff WhalenTrent RichardsonAhmad BradshawBoom HereinDonate MoncriefHands more than Harvey & Havili put together. Thus providing solid argument as to why we shouldn't carry a FB periodBut its not realistic, We are going to carry a FB and used right and not always to block (Havili only had 21 targets through 13 games...That's not enough for a pass catching FB) he will be a bigger asset to the team, When he is in he needs to targeted more to keep the D guessing if he will block or go out for a pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 He is Pep's pet hopefully not many more season's of that guy I here Vanderbilt is nice this time of the yearVandy is my college team! We will pass! ;) we took the better option in Standords ex Defensive Coordinator Derek Mason! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Our offense does need a fullback due to the offense we run!! But I really wish we just wouldn't use one! Maybe Trent could do more becuase we wouldn't be in formations to show our hand in the run game!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcolt Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Vandy is my college team! We will pass! ;) we took the better option in Standords ex Defensive Coordinator Derek Mason!They say Vandy is the Harvard of the South Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 They say Vandy is the Harvard of the South Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 They say Vandy is the Harvard of the SouthTK, no reason to laughI've heard that!!! I couldn't get in because you have to have a 3.8 your whole life or above to even be considered... It's a really hard school to get into. You have to be smart and get solid grades to even play their sports. They take their academics very serious. Wish they didn't so they could get some really good dumb football players! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Ducheteau Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 cut him, just not enough reasons to keep him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smash Mouth Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 As soon as the FB enters the game the defense puts 8 in the box. We have to be able to throw more out of the formation and not be so predictable. Our Oline doesn't get enough push to line-up and pound it. Its obvious we're better in 12 or 13 packages. keeping the FB is a luxury the roster can't afford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notbigbob Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 You haven't seen him play a lot but I would keep Cam White as the pullback he's able to catch passes he's more mobile and have the size necessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I'd bring in John Conner or Henry Hynoski or Jed Collins to contend with Havili at FB at the end of the season when FA hits or at least consider it unless we actually begin to use Havili in the passing game...which is what his strength really is, All three are more of what we apparently want in a FB then Havili which are big bruising blocking fullbacks, Conner especially Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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