New ST coach: Tom McMahon

[grmasterb]

Per IndyStar's Phillip B. Wilson via Twitter, it's Tom McMahon. Spent last season with KC, and has also been with the Rams and Falcons.

[Balzer40]

I was hoping for Dave Toub , but oh, well. This guy may be alright.

 

 

Here's a link.

 

http://www.colts.com/news/article-1/COLTS-HIRE-TOM-McMAHON-AS-SPECIAL-TEAMS-COORDINATOR/fb0316e0-be8c-4ab5-943f-e6e994ebbe7e

[HarassedOffTheSite]

Meh

[TKnight24]

Is he any good???

[Tark The Shark]

Haven't heard a lot about him before this.

 

But was he really an upgrade over Maalouf?

 

I hope he continues the success that the special teams had last year. Hopefully polish Hilton and Karim as our returners.

[chad72]

All I know is the Chiefs are 9th lowest in kick return yardage (Colts 12th) and 6th highest in net avg. punting (Colts 16th) in the 2012 season.

[CR91]

this seems like a dumb hiring. how exactly is he an upgrade to maalouf? its not like the chiefs were lights out on ST. why would anyone hire anyone from the worst team in football.

[chad72]

this seems like a dumb hiring. how exactly is he an upgrade to maalouf? its not like the chiefs were lights out on ST. why would anyone hire anyone from the worst team in football.

 

 

The Chiefs' numbers were better than the Colts numbers, so it is a small upgrade, IMO. See my post above with some numbers.

 

Ultimately, it is about Johnnys and Joes, not just Xs and Os, applies to ST as well.

[Superman]

Based on Grigson's comments about Maalouf, I think there was a sentiment among the team that he wasn't a good fit. That might be personality, that might be personal issues with family, who knows. It doesn't sound like the team had their eye on anyone in particular, based on the timing and the sequence of events.

[PrincetonTiger]

this seems like a dumb hiring. how exactly is he an upgrade to maalouf? its not like the chiefs were lights out on ST. why would anyone hire anyone from the worst team in football.

ST play didn't cause the Chiefs to be terrible.

[buccolts]

Hmm, I have no opinions on McMahon either way.

Though, it's a ST Coach, and I have no opinions on any of them.

You can only go by what's been accomplished elsewhere, and available talent has a lot to do with that.

 

I do find it all curious, though.

[CR91]

ST play didn't cause the Chiefs to be terrible.

 

it didnt help them either

[lollygagger8]

Lateral move.

 

Booooooo

[chad72]

Based on Grigson's comments about Maalouf, I think there was a sentiment among the team that he wasn't a good fit. That might be personality, that might be personal issues with family, who knows. It doesn't sound like the team had their eye on anyone in particular, based on the timing and the sequence of events.

 

 

I am just looking at where Maalouf came from. He trained under the Ravens' current ST head coach as ST assistant, who was 30th in the league in ST rankings in 2011, one spot higher than the Colts who were 31st in 2011. Yep, the same Ravens' ST coach that has the worst kick return avg. in the NFL this year and gave up 2 TDs to Trindon Holliday in the latest playoff game.

 

I did not think that was a quality hire, IMO, that of Maalouf. Maybe a Pagano recommendation. Now, this ST coach McMahon is making a lateral move, I prefer this kind of move as opposed to hiring another assistant.

[RomanianColtsFan]

It is a lateral move but he was part of Crennel's staff that was fired.

[Superman]

It is a lateral move but he was part of Crennel's staff that was fired.

 

Exactly, so he goes from out of work to employed. Not exactly a lateral move, if you ask me.

[Superman]

I am just looking at where Maalouf came from. He trained under the Ravens' current ST head coach as ST assistant, who was 30th in the league in ST rankings in 2011, one spot higher than the Colts who were 31st in 2011. Yep, the same Ravens' ST coach that has the worst kick return avg. in the NFL this year and gave up 2 TDs to Trindon Holliday in the latest playoff game.

 

I did not think that was a quality hire, IMO, that of Maalouf. Maybe a Pagano recommendation. Now, this ST coach McMahon is making a lateral move, I prefer this kind of move as opposed to hiring another assistant.

 

Oh yeah, I agree with all that. I admittedly don't know much about most special teams coaches, so I can't speak to McMahon. I was more commenting on the idea that we've made a mistake in firing Maalouf and hiring McMahon. Like you said, McMahon's numbers are better (Javier Arenas might have something to do with that), and I think Maalouf's exit might have been more about cohesion than football.

[NewColtsFan]

Some of the comments here are just......    

 

They're enough to make any sane person go....        

 

I mean,  after all,   what have Grigson/Pagano/Arians/Manusky shown about the importance of good coaching anyway?    Can we really trust them?    

 

What have they done recently to earn that kind of trust?      

 

How about having just a little bit of faith that this staff knows what it's doing.     Seriously.

 

I know these kind of posts don't make me too popular with some here....    but, somehow, I think I'll manage another day.....

[HGRekks]

Well, if he's anything like Jim McMahon, I'll still have no clue about his impact as an ST Coordinator.

[theanarchist]

The Chiefs' numbers were better than the Colts numbers, so it is a small upgrade, IMO. See my post above with some numbers.

 

Ultimately, it is about Johnnys and Joes, not just Xs and Os, applies to ST as well.

Agreed. Players play coaches coach. I thought our special teams were solid this  year as opposed to the previous coaching staff. hope that continues with this new hire

[MTC]

Really wanted Dave Toub. Ugh

[Warhorse]

Some of the comments here are just......    

 

They're enough to make any sane person go....        

 

I mean,  after all,   what have Grigson/Pagano/Arians/Manusky shown about the importance of good coaching anyway?    Can we really trust them?    

 

What have they done recently to earn that kind of trust?      

 

How about having just a little bit of faith that this staff knows what it's doing.     Seriously.

 

I know these kind of posts don't make me too popular with some here....    but, somehow, I think I'll manage another day.....

Fans knowing more than the coaching staff.......meh. ;)

[BOTT]

If grigson hired a new secretary some on here would offer their critique

[chad72]

If grigson hired a new secretary some on here would offer their critique

 

 

As long as it is not Monica Lewinsky, people probably wont care .

[Smonroe]

This should be his first statement - Gunners - don't run PAST the kick returner!  I don't care how fast you are if you can't slow down enough to make a tackle.

 

Second statement - Please Mr. Irsay, re-sign the canal swimmer.

 

If he can get those two things accomplished, we should be fine.

[BOTT]

As long as it is not Monica Lewinsky, people probably wont care .

She would be a great mid afternoon stress reliever

[Warhawk]

Well, if he's anything like Jim McMahon, I'll still have no clue about his impact as an ST Coordinator.

 

On the plus side, our special teams units would be groovy as all get-out.

[dw49]

It is a lateral move but he was part of Crennel's staff that was fired

 

 

 

Are you trying to be funny ? in any event , that's hysterical. 

[Malakai432]

Hmmmm??????????

There's my two cents.

[#12]

Once you subtract McAfee's touchbacks and punting and look at the return yardage both ways, they were below us in everything, and outside of McAfee, we weren't very good. 

[buccolts]

Well, if he's anything like Jim McMahon, I'll still have no clue about his impact as an ST Coordinator.

Oh boy, I'd prefer Ed to Jim.

[HGRekks]

Oh boy, I'd prefer Ed to Jim.

Meh. Ed is a better assistant than lead guy.

[Carlos Danger]

should've gotten the Bears's castoff ST coach... he is probably already hired... I don't even know who was our ST coach before M.M.... we will see how it goes i guess...