Grade the draft!

[Douzer]

I give this a draft an 'A' .

Football is still won & loss in the trenches. The investment in big uglies, rather than specialists, is exactly what this team needed...

[superrep1967]

17 hours ago, jvan1973 said:

Really,    impossible to know.    Would have liked more pass rush,   but I like the attention to the o line.   Hopefully they can keep luck off his back and open holes for frank

Exactly it's to early to tell

[NewColtsFan]

4 hours ago, bababooey said:

I know this is kind of a nothing quote but my friend who is a fins fan sent me a tweet from Omar Kelly saying Morrison is an alpha male he would absolutely LOVE on his team then we took him a minute later

 

I shared this in another post,  but Grigson and Pagano feel like they stole Morrison.

 

They said what you said....   Alpha male....   maybe not that literal description,  but generally speaking exactly that.        They said don't worry about his speed,  he plays so much faster.    Great leader on and off the field.   They LOVE the kid.      Thrilled with hm!

 

Your friend in Florida is 100 percent right!    

 

[Buck Showalter]

I gave it a high grade because I am an optimist, & it seems Grigs was able to secure a few hogh priority UDFAs that could make an impact as well...

[tenbears1971]

16 hours ago, weslo1812 said:

First off do you forget who we now have as our Our O line line coach who I'm sure had much imput into the linemen we selected. The guy knows a thing or two about Offensive linemen. You act if grigs makes the picks based solely off his scouting and his information. AND that's faaaaar from the truth. 

 

And to try and say there is no ability in Green is rediculous. He's got HUGE ability...especially physically. He's new to the position and still learning. A guy who with more coaching can turn into a great rangy saftey. Physically he is a blue chip player.

 

Also our offense was a laaaarrge part of the reason our defense looked as bad as it did last year. Constant 3 and outs giving the opposing offenses more possessions and making our defense stay on the field alot longer than they should have to thereby wearing them down. Also the costly turnover's in our own zone giving them short fields. And what was a large reason behind this...hmmmm maybe our horrible offensive line. And our offensive coordinator for the first half of the season. Our Defense actually kept us in a number of games and gave us a chance. People don't realize or remember for some reason how much pressure was on them for about 12 outta 16 games. Yes there are definitely holes and our defense isn't great by any means but from what I watched and know they are far from horrible.

 

And how important is it to you to protect our most valuable player who means everything to our franchise? Because that's very likely what Kelly goes a long way in doing for us. Also helping our offense be able to perform to its potential. And there were reports out there that on some boards Kelly was a top 20 prospect.

 

Great post. Last years 24 hour med clinic (largely effected by our O-Line) shook things up in management philosophy. Especially like your mention of our new O-Line coach / 3 and outs etc.

 

Looking forward to training camp.

 

 

[crazycolt1]

17 hours ago, The Peytonator said:

I'm pretty pessimistic about this draft.

 

Ryan Kelly - Should be a good center, but drafting him that early he better be an All Pro for several years of his career. I said it plenty of times before that using a mid first round pick on a center is just bad value.

 

TJ Green - Terrible draft pick. The guy had the worst QB rating against him out of all draft eligible safeties. He is a project player taken in the second round. There is no other way to spin it, this was a terrible decision. They drafted a guy based on his length and speed, it sure wasn't based on his ability.

 

La'Raven Clark - Meh. Gave up a lot of pressure as a tackle. He'll have to move to guard. Where's the pass rush? Would have liked Joe Schobert here.

 

Hassan Ridgeway - Okay with this pick. Getting decent value in the middle rounds. Would have went with Billings myself but oh well. 

 

Antonio Morrison - More terribleness. Pagano/Grigson obviously don't want their LBs to be able to cover. He is a guy you draft in the seventh, especially with his injury history. 

 

Joe Haeg - More meh. Where's the freakin' pass rush? 

 

Trevor Bates - Oh there's the pass rush. Great job Grigson. The only thing you've done to fix our worst position last year, is cut the only young potential we had (Newsome), cut one of your previous mistakes (Werner), lower the cap hit of another mistake (Cole), and draft some nobody in the seventh round. I hope all you people that are praising this draft are happy next year when our best pass rushers are two geriatrics who were already non-existent last year.

 

Austin Blythe - Hey a pick I don't hate. I'd hate it less if Grigson didn't completely waste this entire offseason already.

 

Go ahead everybody, say that I'm a bad fan. Apparently everyone has confidence in Grigson's ability to scout linemen, despite the many misses he's had in his four years here; McGlynn, Satele, Thornton, Holmes, Harrison, Herremans.....whatever. He's drafted one good lineman. The line wasn't even the worst problem thanks to his one good pick and two of Polian's picks, that distinction goes to the entire defense not named Henry Anderson and Vontae Davis. We let our best LB leave. The only good move on that side of the ball has been letting another one of Grigson's mistakes in the form of Greg Toler see the door. 

 

I wonder if you people will finally want Grigson gone next year when we go 8-8 again.

So you have a different opinion that most including the so called experts on all of the sports networks? Just because the draft didn't go the way you thought with your impeccable NFL knowledge you take the chance to get your digs in on Grigson. Is looking a the big picture a possibility for you without your obvious hate for Grigson bias? If you had paid any attention to the off season you would have noticed that Irsay wanted major improvements on the O-line. That is because Luck being hit and sacked with numbers at the top of the league the whole time he has been here. Plus, the Colts have had no running game since Jeff Saturday left the building. But little things like that makes no difference to someone who's agenda is to be negative with every move the GM makes.

[AZColt11]

Prisco from CBS Sports liked it.  I guess I'm not the only one.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pete-prisco/25573635/priscos-nfl-draft-grades-32-grades-for-32-grades-but-only-one-a

 

[throwing BBZ]

1 hour ago, crazycolt1 said:

So you have a different opinion that most including the so called experts on all of the sports networks? Just because the draft didn't go the way you thought with your impeccable NFL knowledge you take the chance to get your digs in on Grigson. Is looking a the big picture a possibility for you without your obvious hate for Grigson bias? If you had paid any attention to the off season you would have noticed that Irsay wanted major improvements on the O-line. That is because Luck being hit and sacked with numbers at the top of the league the whole time he has been here. Plus, the Colts have had no running game since Jeff Saturday left the building. But little things like that makes no difference to someone who's agenda is to be negative with every move the GM makes.

 

 Crazy__colt you have proven beyond all doubt that the "Big Picture" for you is perhaps all a hazy Blue.
 The Colts record in the draft and FA over the last 4 years is a poor one. It really is that simple.
 

[crazycolt1]

8 minutes ago, throwing BBZ said:

 

 Crazy__colt you have proven beyond all doubt that the "Big Picture" for you is perhaps all a hazy Blue.
 The Colts record in the draft and FA over the last 4 years is a poor one. It really is that simple.
 

Exactly what does that have to do with this draft?

[el duderino]

B cause we didnt find a real good pass rusher... i just hope bates or maybe maggitt bring something to the table

[HungarianColtsFan]

My grade for this draft is a massive "B". I liked our picks overall, but there are 2 picks those are questionable for me (and for many others as I read). I hope everything pans out well.

[OffensivelyPC]

3 hours ago, Douzer said:

I give this a draft an 'A' .

Football is still won & loss in the trenches. The investment in big uglies, rather than specialists, is exactly what this team needed...

And as a bonus, all Kelly and Clark play with a little nasty.

[ÅÐØNϧ 1]

It was a good draft " B "   for Grigson & a " F"  For those out there that will never be happy no matter who we draft  back seat GM 's on a message board . It is funny to read some of these posts some really believe they no it all . Thanks for the laughs ,,

[JlynRN]

I am very optimistic about this draft.  I give it a solid B , maybe even a B+. I like that we finally upgraded the O line to give Andrew some protection, definitely a must. I know we didn't really focus on pass rushers, but I feel we will be ok with the core we had from last season.  Anderson was doing so good until his injury. Hopefully he returns to form this season.

 

Great draft, GOOOO Colts !!!

[OffensivelyPC]

4 hours ago, throwing BBZ said:

 

 Crazy__colt you have proven beyond all doubt that the "Big Picture" for you is perhaps all a hazy Blue.
 The Colts record in the draft and FA over the last 4 years is a poor one. It really is that simple.
 

Not that your biases are any obstacle here...

[TigerColt]

B.

Think they tried to address OL which is huge need.  Still think we should have taking Whitehair in the 2nd and then Green in the 3rd.  

We had the chance to get Kelly AND Whitehair and we passed?  SMH.  I do like Greens potential but you had the chance for a sure fire long term starter and settle the OL for 10 years for someone that will need to be coached up (Pagano's own words). 

 

BTW, the Bears already cut their guard to make room for Whitehair which was the 18th rated guard in the league and known for his pass blocking.

 

Joseph

[rockywoj]

Grade from NFL.com:

 

Indianapolis Colts 
Draft picks: Ryan Kelly (No. 18 overall), T.J. Green (No. 57 overall), Le'Raven Clark (No. 82 overall), Hassan Ridgeway (No. 116 overall), Antonio Morrison (No. 125 overall), Joe Haeg (No. 155 overall), Trevor Bates (No. 239 overall), Austin Blythe (No. 248 overall) 
Day 1 grade: A 
Day 2 grade: A 
Day 3 grade: A 
Overall grade: A 
The skinny: Ryan Kelly will be a stud in the middle, and protecting Andrew Luck became truly important after he missed time last season. The Colts required help in the secondary and Green is a versatile, hard-charging defender worth a late second round pick. Clark brings some nasty to the offensive line. Ridgeway could be a big-time find if he builds consistency into his game at the next level. Morrison is a very underrated inside linebacker that should play a long time if his injury problems are behind him; he's a nice replacement for Jerrell Freeman. I thought Haeg could go to indy in the third or fourth, so they got value in the fifth.

[Valpo2004]

I would give it a B.  

 

I have serious questions about our 2nd round pick and I thought we over did it in terms of OL, we needed 2, not 4.

 

But if our 2nd round pick can play and the draft picks on the OL pan out, we have a much better team now then we had last year.

 

But there where no big luxury picks made.  Ryan Kelly was a good call and should open up things in the run game.  Plus there will now be plenty of competition for RG and RT.  

 

My biggest worry is if we have a #2 RB.  We may now have the line to grind it out with the run game if we need to, but we need to have more then just Frank Gore running the ball.  Especially at his age, we need a good #2 guy.  

 

Maybe we can find a decent one as a UDFA or get one after the teams trim their rosters down to 53.  

[jvan1973]

16 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said:

I would give it a B.  

 

I have serious questions about our 2nd round pick and I thought we over did it in terms of OL, we needed 2, not 4.

 

But if our 2nd round pick can play and the draft picks on the OL pan out, we have a much better team now then we had last year.

 

But there where no big luxury picks made.  Ryan Kelly was a good call and should open up things in the run game.  Plus there will now be plenty of competition for RG and RT.  

 

My biggest worry is if we have a #2 RB.  We may now have the line to grind it out with the run game if we need to, but we need to have more then just Frank Gore running the ball.  Especially at his age, we need a good #2 guy.  

 

Maybe we can find a decent one as a UDFA or get one after the teams trim their rosters down to 53.  

They signed Robert Turbin and Jordan Todman

 

They also signed Josh Ferguson as an UDFA as well

 

 

[krunk]

11 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

They signed Robert Turbin and Jordan Todman

 

They also signed Josh Ferguson as an UDFA as well

 

 

 

I really like Ferguson, I feel he has outstanding feet and balance.  I think he'll end up beating Jordan Todman out.  He moves just like Darren Sproles and the great thing is he's bigger than sproles.  I believe he would be good playing around 205-210.

[Indianapolis-Colts-Fan]

On April 30, 2016 at 7:29 PM, Flash said:

With this year's draft, we should be set at O-line for some time. This will free us up to draft pass rush and defense heavily next year.

 

I give the draft an A. It addressed a major weakness, and it will improve our rushing and passing game. We already had the skill players and now we have our hard-nosed O-linemen.

 

If this impacts the team as hoped, it could free up the draft for defense for the next 3 years to come. 

[Indiana]

Ive seen nothing but A's so far, which is nice for a change

 

BR is usually the most reliable

 

this ones funny http://brobible.com/sports/article/2016-nfl-draft-team-grades-analysis/7/

 

Walterfootball is a goof. 

[Jason_]

On 5/1/2016 at 8:38 AM, gacker65 said:

Gave the draft a "D".  Grigson spent draft reaching for need till 7th round.  Forgot about pass rush.

 

Reaching based on who's big board other than your own?  

[gacker65]

18 hours ago, Jason_S said:

 

Reaching based on who's big board other than your own?  

All the NFLN analysts. except Charles Davis, had Kelly some where between 32 to 40.  I had him around 45 because of down side. I also had Martin from ND at 47 because of down side.

 

I noticed with Kelly, like Luck, no one wanted to talk about Kelly's down side (weaknesses).  Haven't figured out why.

[Jason_]

16 minutes ago, gacker65 said:

All the NFLN analysts. except Charles Davis, had Kelly some where between 32 to 40.  I had him around 45 because of down side. I also had Martin from ND at 47 because of down side.

 

I noticed with Kelly, like Luck, no one wanted to talk about Kelly's down side (weaknesses).  Haven't figured out why.

 

Mayock had him at #15

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000655903/article/mike-mayocks-2016-nfl-draft-top-100-prospect-rankings

[gacker65]

Just now, Jason_S said:

 

Mayock had him at #15

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000655903/article/mike-mayocks-2016-nfl-draft-top-100-prospect-rankings

You are correct, forgot that.  So 2 out of all of them.  Then too,  Mayock said nothing about Kelly's weaknesses.  Every one avoided that side like the plague.  If you don't cover both sides of a player's play. you are doing an incomplete evaluation of said player.

 

It happens every draft, that there are 1st round talented players that no one talks about their down side.