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16 minutes ago, Rhodelesstraveled said:

Reality check:  We've managed to spend 133 million on QB's since 2019.  It's insane and Irsay still owes Ryan money for 2023.  Here's the article that goes into detail:

 

https://overthecap.com/colts-bench-matt-ryan

 

We also spent 30 million on Brissett.

 

^^^^^This is why we have no OL 

 

OL is coaching and scheming. How is it that most of these guys did well in 2018 and 2019?

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Just now, stitches said:

Listening to Frank's presser... I wish Frank would stop throwing out words like "special" for every second player on the roster. Not everybody can be special, Frank. If we had as many special players as you think we do, we wouldn't be where we are at. 

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6 minutes ago, strt182 said:

Most of the Info being posted here is SUMMARIES. I highly recommend watching this. The issue with social media is a lot of times people post things to meet their agenda. I get a little different take on things after watching the presser. 

 

 


“This kid is special”

 

Is that why he was a sixth round pick and why you still went out and traded for Matt Ryan and signed Nick Foles despite him being on the roster already? Something smells fishy here. I get trying to talk up your QB and instill faith in him, but these comments are ludicrous and false. 

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1 hour ago, chad72 said:

 

Irsay was always peeved with Vrabel getting his squad to play hard nosed and winning the matchups so many times. Some of us were probably asking us to just go with Sam E and see what happens at the beginning of the year. We could have saved money and tailored an offense for Sam E. Now I am not sure Sam E is in a good spot, to be honest. Will support the Colts no matter what but they did fail to support Matt Ryan with this kind of OL performance, that is a fact that cannot be denied, IMO. Matt Ryan was promised a Mercedes and delivered a beat up Chevy for an OL. 

delivered a beat up yugo for an OL. 

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How did Ballard not see this coming with Ryan. Ever since his super bowl loss he has been spiraling downward. His arm strength was getting worse every year. He is a class guy but he is washed. And if you chose to go with Ryan you at least should have improved the OL. But he let the OL get even worse. It is great to see Sam get his chance and am hoping for the best. At least he can move which will help the OL. Fans will have to be patient with him.

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2 minutes ago, TaylorTheStudMuffin said:

Not a tank job. When your only scoring 10 pts we were basically already tanking. 

Scoring 10 points is great in a game IF your opponent only scores 9.  I'd settle for 10 points EVERY Game.  But then again most will find that as UNWATCHABLE games. 

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2 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:


“This kid is special”

 

Is that why he was a sixth round pick and why you still went out and traded for Matt Ryan and signed Nick Foles despite him being on the roster already? Something smells fishy here. I get trying to talk up your QB and instill faith in him, but these comments are ludicrous and false. 

Ian Rapp said several GM have been watching Sam and have been impressed and want him. I thought that was interesting.

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4 minutes ago, #12. said:

 

Just watched Sam's preseason highlights.  Compared to what we've seen from Ryan, it's a pretty live arm, honestly.

 

Hate to say it, I have to agree. He can run the same boot legs Ryan Tannehill can run but unless he shows he can pass well enough in the 20-30 yard range consistently, they will still man up with man coverage initially at least, IMO while playing JT and the run. So, once Sam connects with enough passes down the field, watch this offense open up. Here is to hoping for the best, doesn't have to be 40 yarders. :thmup:

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2 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:


“This kid is special”

 

Is that why he was a sixth round pick and why you still went out and traded for Matt Ryan and signed Nick Foles despite him being on the roster already? Something smells fishy here. I get trying to talk up your QB and instill faith in him, but these comments are ludicrous and false. 


Sam was special enough to keep on the roster. This is his chance to shine.

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13 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Props to Irsay for more than likely stepping in and forcing Ballard and Reich to bench Ryan for Elingher. They can't be trusted at this point, and they would've started Ryan the rest of the year and had a losing record. At least the owner gets it! :thmup:

Well...it was Irsay that blathered on and on about Matt being a Navy Seal and an Astronaut.

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5 minutes ago, shasta519 said:


Yep. Possibly going to cost Ballard his job. They owe Ryan $35M next year.

 

2 minutes ago, Blueblood23 said:

More dumb money spent. This organization needs a complete overhaul.

 

Yep! This is THREE TIMES NOW! 3 times Ballard has made the exact same mistake - given money he shouldn't have in advance to QBs that had not proven they deserve them and/or were in decline and entering the final years of their career. 

 

He gave Brissett money he didn't need to give and he hadn't proven he deserves.

He restructured Wentz' contract and gave him more guaranteed money the following year that he didn't need to give after Wentz was coming off a horrible year as one of the worst starting QBs in the league.

He then restructured Matt Ryan's contract and guaranteed even more money for him the following year(35M now). 

 

The management of the QB position has been horrible after Luck's retirement. 

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1 hour ago, dw49 said:

 

I'm sure S.E. disagrees that "they aren't doing him any favors." It's the chance of a lifetime for a QB drafted in the 6th round and only in his 2nd year. Don't be so sure he get's slaughtered as some fake handoffs with a roll out will be a nice wrinkle . Can't be much worse than watching Ryan yesterday....

Hey, don’t get me wrong - I REALLY like Sam. Love the way he’s picked up the playbook theory - he KNOWS this offense. But he’ll be playing with stacked bundles of dollarbills instead of an Oline. 
 

I know he has wheels, but he’s not made of steel. We’ve seen him get injured before. He can’t take this punishment anymore than Ryan could. 

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4 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

Hate to say it, I have to agree. He can run the same boot legs Ryan Tannehill can run but unless he shows he can pass well enough in the 20-30 yard range consistently, they will still man up with man coverage initially at least, IMO while playing JT and the run. So, once Sam connects with enough passes down the field, watch this offense open up. Here is to hoping for the best, doesn't have to be 40 yarders. :thmup:

I think Campbell and Hines are going to shine with Sam. 

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1 minute ago, stitches said:

 

 

Yep! This is THREE TIMES NOW! 3 times Ballard has made the exact same mistake - given money he shouldn't have in advance to QBs that had not proven they deserve them and/or were in decline and entering the final years of their career. 

 

He gave Brissett money he didn't need to give and he hadn't proven he deserves.

He restructured Wentz' contract and gave him more guaranteed money the following year that he didn't need to give after Wentz was coming off a horrible year as one of the worst starting QBs in the league.

He then restructured Matt Ryan's contract and guaranteed even more money for him the following year(35M now). 

 

The management of the QB position has been horrible after Luck's retirement. 

 

That is why, if we get Herndon Hooker, it has to be with both a new HC and GM with flexible offensive and team building philosophies. 

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From the Coach McDaniels debacle to Wentz and Ryan to the current joke of a LT situation to Autry embarrassing the Colts to hundreds of other decisions, Chris Ballard’s ability to run a team reeks of mediocrity. Never has a man with such an ago accomplished so little. 

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2 hours ago, chad72 said:

Yep, all the Matt Ryan lovers, keep coming with your excuses...it was hard to ignore after this last Titans game performance. This team has the talent with Pittman, Pierce and Campbell to make a run, IMO, along with JT.

 

But Frank still calls the plays, maybe he will finally call the RPOs he wanted all along. At least I can get behind a guy that can escape the pocket and throw 20 yards, if not 30-40 yards well enough. I anticipate a temporary boost from Sam E but once there is enough film on him, it will be harder to keep winning. We will see. Better to have tried and failed than not to try at all.

All that sounds good but it won't matter who the qb is if the o-line doesn't block....when ryan had time to throw he made plays so we'll see what sam can do

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