Ravens Hire Jim Caldwell

[hawkeyes]

Where are all those posters who SWORE that Caldwell would never get a SNIFF of a job in the NFL. We're waiting................

While I am surprised that they hired him, I said he would never again be a HC.

[Smitto]

Frankly, this is a massive demotion for Caldwell. Not only is he not working as a coordinator, but as a position coach? If anything, I think this proves to us (the community) that we were right about Caldwell. Clearly Caldwell didn't get any (good) offers. It's pathetic, really.

He was being looked at as the steelers offensive coordinator... i wouldnt be surprised if he is the ravens OC after the upcoming season, or leaves for another HC job

[manningstheman]

Where are all those posters who SWORE that Caldwell would never get a SNIFF of a job in the NFL. We're waiting................

I dont remember too many people saying he wouldnt get another NFL job. Alot of people said he probably wouldnt get a HC or even a OC job. Most people acutally were saying he probably would get an assitant or position job.

[manningstheman]

He was being looked at as the steelers offensive coordinator... i wouldnt be surprised if he is the ravens OC after the upcoming season, or leaves for another HC job

Really? C'mon man.

[manningstheman]

I talked to some Ravens fans about this, and they're kind of mixed. Since Caldwell was with the Colts as a QB coach since 2001, he might have played a role in Manning's development, so that credential could boost Flacco's mediocre career. On the other hand, no one really knows how much of a direct impact Caldwell had on Manning. I personally thought Tom Moore, or maybe even Archie Manning, was responsible for most of what Manning has learned.

One thing is certain, however... Pagano for Caldwell?... The Colts won that trade.

Little fun fact: Caldwell shares the same birthday as Flacco (Jan 16th). I guess they were meant for each other.

A littler known fact.....They share the same birthday with me.

[SilentHill]

Did anyone check the steelers forum? I feel bad for them, they wanted Arians gone and now thye got something even worse lol.

[Malakai432]

^{So how are you Caldwell haters going to feel when Flacco is progressing and the Colts are struggling? Are you still going to bring up a time-out against the Jets? I'm happy for Caldwell, he took a lot more of blame than he deserved.}

That's a pretty bold assumption. If the Colts struggle it's because they are rebuilding, not because they simply canned Caldwell. Colts still struggled under Caldwell coaching last year anyways. That being said I'm Happy for the guy finding a job as a positional coach for the Ravens.

In terms of Flacco, he's a big boy. Regardless who's coaching him we won't be seeing him winning MVPs anytime soon, if ever.

[cmgww]

I am glad to see him get another gig...like others I share the thoughts: Great man, players loved him, just not a good HC. It has to be humbling to take a position coach job after being HC of one of the top franchises in the league that he took to a SB just two seasons ago, but Jim is a God-fearing (not trying to be all religious but it's true) man who took it....he could have easily retired with the $$ he made as Cots HC

[Rich Cannon]

Well now maybe Joe Flacco can actually be a good qb

[smittywerb]

I figured he would get picked up as a position coach or assistant. HC? NO WAY! OC? Ehh, it's a possibility. I just felt Caldwell was overwhelmed and had the wrong people around him also. He needs to tackle one thing and focus on it.

[Smitto]

Really? C'mon man.

.... Yes really, unlike the caldwell haters there are actual experts who still think caldwell can coach so i wouldnt be surprised.

[King Colt]

After Painter's success it's no wonder Caldwell wasn't hired immedaitley as a QB coach (in the pee-wee league)

[Jaric]

Good for Jim.

I despise the Raven's so I can't wish him well there, but I am glad he found work, even if it is a bit further down the line.

[Wyld1]

Lets see what he can do with Flacco?

[Tony Sullivan]

Its too bad there would be too much awkwardness having him take a lesser role with the team. Maybe he didnt have that charisma you expect out of a coach but he was a heck of a role model and connected with the players one on one.

[IndyTrav]

And the bottom-feeders of the AFC North just keep winning...

The Browns are sitting pretty come draft day, the Bengals have an extremely bright future, the Ravens lose another Quality DC, the Steelers lose a LB coach, and an OC, while continuing to age at key positions for both Pitt and Balt.....

I may have been a year early on my Clev prediction from last year....

[Moose Of Woe]

Where are all those posters who SWORE that Caldwell would never get a SNIFF of a job in the NFL. We're waiting................

He won't ever sniff a job in the NFL as a head coach. He isn't one now, and he won't ever be again. He was terrible, and should never have been HC for any team to begin with.

As far as general NFL goes, sure. I stated he may land somewhere as a position coach or gatorade boy in some other thread. Some team was bound to be stupid enough to grab him in some fashion, but not stupid enough to make him HC. (He does, like everyone else in the NFL, have connections that can land him a job SOMEwhere.)

"A guy's gotta work."

[LUVTHESHOE]

No but this is a good move.....for the rest of the AFC.

This is awesome , we are ripping away at the two best staffs in the afc to bolster our team and one them gets JC in return. Wow!win,win. JC interviews for the OC position and gets the QB coach gig, guess us fans are not the only ones not in favor of his offense mind set. I am glad he found work though. I think it was the way he constructed Painter that landed him this gig.

[Happy2BeHere]

Is there anyone else who is getting more excited now for Madden 12 with all the new changes to the Colts roster?

[chad72]

I need a "Leave Billy alone" sign redone for "Leave Caldwell alone".

[Balzer40]

I thought the Ravens wanted Flacco to get better. Nah! Im just kidding, This is much more Caldwell's speed. A low level posisiton coach.

[AlaskaColtsFan]

The real question is did they get the real Caldwell or just the cardboard cuttout that we had. I wish Caldwell well.

[Jay305]

Cant wait for Ed Reed next season to say Caldwells play calling is rattled

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

Happy for Jim! I think he will be good for Flaco in alot of ways!

[JoKeR]

Now all they need is a QB

lol

[Coltswarriors]

Best of luck to Jim.

Great guy, just not head coach material.

[Jason_]

Cant wait for Ed Reed next season to say Caldwells play calling is rattled

Um, Caldwell likely won't be doing any play calling seeing as Cam Cameron is still the OC in Baltimore.

He cost us a potential playoff win for his *ic Jets timeout, and that had nothing to do with last season. As for last season itself, despite Caldwell being a QB coach, he did not have Curtis Painter prepared at all despite assistance from Manning.

I don't mean to be a scrooge, but I do blame Caldwell for everything. Caldwell is the worst head coach the NFL has seen in a long time. No personality, bad clock management, bad QB preparation (ie. with Painter), lack of halftime adjustments, ultra conservative play-calling, failure to execute with multiple pro-bowl players, the list goes on. He was even allowed to hand-pick Larry Coyer. Coyer was his defensive coordinator back in the 1970s. Caldwell was given plenty of ammo to succeed, yet failed miserably.

The fact no team would hire Caldwell as anything but a positional coach attests to what the league thinks of him. It may be easy to dismiss some of Caldwell's issues as Bill Polian's, but if that were the case, why did we not keep Caldwell? Even Jim Irsay must have recognized how bad Caldwell is!

You do realize that if Spagnuolo had acceptd the DC position here that Caldwell would still be the HC right? It was only after Spags turned us down that Caldwell was fired. From what I was able to read about the situation I think Spags declining to come here was the final moment of realization for Grigs and Irsay that we wouldn't be able to get a quality DC to come here if Caldwell was still here and it was only then they made the final call to fire Caldwell.

All that said, I'm certainly happy Caldwell is gone but I'm also happy for him for landing a new job. I'm not sure how much blame Caldwell deserves and how much falls on Polian but I think it's certain that both share in the blame for this past season.

[Moose Of Woe]

Ok Spags (or any other half decent DC/OC) come to Indy and work for Caldwell!

Spags: "BAAAAAAAAAH! HAH HAH HAH HAH!"

[JColts72]

Super love fest and Kool-Aid on the hosue it seems for good old Jim here; YUCK, more views and posts then the focus of new coach Chuck eh?

[Superman]

So, if Flacco becomes a better quarterback next season, does Caldwell get any credit for that?

[MAC]

I'm happy for him. He got a job almost immediately, the fact that it was a big step down was to be expected. What do you think happened to Arians when he was fired as OC - to pick one relevant example. I suspect that Calwelll will be an OC (or higher) within 2-3 years.

[carmelcolt]

Good for Jim. Although i absolutely hated his head coaching ability, and it was questionable, he probably is a QB coach, and i believe that Manning made reference to that when he was promoted. He was a good individual, just a little in over his head with HC responsibilities.

[hawkeyes]

So, if Flacco becomes a better quarterback next season, does Caldwell get any credit for that?

Nope, none at all.

[smittywerb]

Is there anyone else who is getting more excited now for Madden 12 with all the new changes to the Colts roster?

I know this is off topic, but no. I am tired and fed up with the Madden series. Lately it has become a roster update. year in and year out they have called the same stuff something new. I didn't mind that they haven't added any new features because it is not much they can add, but when you give us the same animations, slightly better graphics, and the same CRAPPY franchise and presentation (announcers, halftime shows, etc.) then you have lost me. I am big on presentation and franchise mode. NFL 2k5 got both and it was only 2004. I am not a 2k fanboy, but that game is better than a lot of new maddens. But to conclude before I wrote an essay, until I see better presentation, better physics, more realism, and a better franchise mode, EA will not get another dollar from me for Madden. I have not bought a MAdden game in 3 years and have not missed it. So I guess I am doing something right.

[theblueplague]

Funny how Caldwell gets credit for helping Peyton become a 4 time MVP (Caldwell being there for 3 of them), but no one asks the question of what happened with Painter/Orlovsky?

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, but maybe Peyton would have been good ... wait for it .... REGARDLESS of Caldwell!

[BlueShoe]

Freakin' theives.

I'm going to hold this against them for the next 30+ years.

Actually this is something they should really hold against us. lol

[BlueShoe]

Jim Caldwell has been hired by the Baltimore Ravens as a Quarterbacks Coach.

http://espn.go.com/n...ant-source-says

Even though this wasn't a real trade, I am still going to think of it as the greatest trade in Indianapolis Colts history.

[JoKeR]

I couldn't imagine him being John Harbaugh's offensive coordinator.

[Happy2BeHere]

I know this is off topic, but no. I am tired and fed up with the Madden series. Lately it has become a roster update. year in and year out they have called the same stuff something new. I didn't mind that they haven't added any new features because it is not much they can add, but when you give us the same animations, slightly better graphics, and the same CRAPPY franchise and presentation (announcers, halftime shows, etc.) then you have lost me. I am big on presentation and franchise mode. NFL 2k5 got both and it was only 2004. I am not a 2k fanboy, but that game is better than a lot of new maddens. But to conclude before I wrote an essay, until I see better presentation, better physics, more realism, and a better franchise mode, EA will not get another dollar from me for Madden. I have not bought a MAdden game in 3 years and have not missed it. So I guess I am doing something right.

I can't say I disagree....I still have the 09 version...and candidly I meant to say Madden 13 not 12...my bad. My brother has '12 and it's the same commentary...just seems kinda "lazy" they haven't updated it least THAT over 3 releases.

I have never played anything other than Madden so I can't compare it.

[Happy2BeHere]

Caldwell going to Baltimore just gives the Ravens fans something else to be torqued about besides the "big move"...maybe they'll forget about that dregged day now