Time to get rid of LUCK

[HungarianColtsFan]

2 minutes ago, AZColt11 said:

I see your sarcasm and raise you a hootenanny.  BTW, I had to lookup how to spell hootenanny.

 

[AZColt11]

5 minutes ago, HungarianColtsFan said:

 

Damn.  Now I'm jealous I didn't find that.

[HungarianColtsFan]

2 minutes ago, AZColt11 said:

Damn.  Now I'm jealous I didn't find that.

 

 

[CoachLite]

19 hours ago, tfunky14 said:

OP is actually right.. Luck needs to play better. TY catches that ball the Colts are in field goal range [then the coach calls for a fake punt].

There, I completed the thought.

[King Colt]

Get rid of those stupid helmets so Luck can get a more panoramic view of the field and pads that restrict Lucks throwing motion.

[Malakai432]

7 hours ago, southwest1 said:

 

I love these 2 posts from this thread. The shortsightedness of some fans never ceases to amaze me. Wow. 

 

Could you imagine where we'd be without Luck right now? Oh my God, I don't even want to think about that nightmare. A chill just went down my spine literally. 

 

Yeah there aren't going to be that many capable of coming in and doing a better job under this current system.

[GoColts8818]

Luck is not our biggest problem.

[bluxco]

On 10/17/2016 at 8:21 AM, csmopar said:

go away TROLL!  Dumbest post ever to be posted on the internet.

if you cant bare the truth,dont read it

[bluxco]

3 hours ago, Malakai432 said:

 

Yeah there aren't going to be that many capable of coming in and doing a better job under this current system.

yes they would be in cellar

[bluxco]

4 hours ago, King Colt said:

Get rid of those stupid helmets so Luck can get a more panoramic view of the field and pads that restrict Lucks throwing motion.

OMG LOL!

[jskinnz]

14 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

So.....    to keep score.....

 

We are roughly halfway through this insane thread....    and one person agrees with the OP and says trade Luck.

 

Many agree Luck should play better.        But they also agree he's mostly played well this year and is the only reason we're even in the games we're in.

 

And the vast majority think this thread is insane......

 

OK.......     carry on.....       we now return you to your regularly scheduled programming!           

 

The internet.   Giving *s a mass platform since Al Gore invented it.

 

Assume you know this is not directed at you.

[jameszeigler834]

On ‎10‎/‎17‎/‎2016 at 11:11 AM, bluxco said:

LUCKS continuos mistakes in big moments kills COLTS---his interception in first half gave TEXANS momentum and his ground ball to T.Y. was another choke job.Tired of watching and listening to his dumb post game speeches

Ya trade the only person that makes this team relevant that's brilliant dumb * the QB can only do so much can't do it alone yes the int was a mistake but everybody makes mistakes and if you look at his and Mannings stats through 60 games lucks are way better than his all the way around even in int's. the interception was a killer but I blame Hilton just as much as luck on that ty could have made a better effort on that play he was right next to the guy who picked it he could have got in front of him and either caught it or knocked it down. Nobody is perfect if you faced as much pressure all the time like he does you would make mistakes too.

[WarGhost21]

I agree. Luck needs to stop missing tackles and coach the team better and have better drafts. It's all his fault...

[richard pallo]

13 hours ago, esmort said:

 

I would have to go back and look it up to be sure, but I think the original shoulder injury was early last season... and if that is the case why wouldn't they hold ahead and do the surgery while he was already out?  I think what you are seeing now is just the ongoing maintenance and therapy/rehab of that earlier injury? 

 

IMO his throwing motion and velocity look the same, and he has always had a tendency to get a little wild with the occasional throw especially when under duress. 

I agree.  If it was last year and serious enough they would have done the surgery.  So, I'm guessing it wasn't.  I hope you,re right on the rehab and that's all it is.  Just me, but I think it could have been injured again in an earlier game.  I'm seeing more bad throws and aiming which really bothers me.  Hopefully the line continues to improve and he gets hit less often.  A young QB missing or limited in practice is a red flag to me.  Hope I'm wrong. 

[richard pallo]

10 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

So you are a doctor that specializes in shoulders now?

Really?  If I can read your 2 cents you can pretend to be mature and read my 2 cents for exactly what it is.  2 cents. 

[Malakai432]

1 hour ago, bluxco said:

yes they would be in cellar

 

Well I guess moreso in the cellar than they already are  !

[2006Coltsbestever]

8 hours ago, southwest1 said:

 

I love these 2 posts from this thread. The shortsightedness of some fans never ceases to amaze me. Wow. 

 

Could you imagine where we'd be without Luck right now? Oh my God, I don't even want to think about that nightmare. A chill just went down my spine literally. 

I know things are bad right now sitting at 2-4 but without Luck we would be getting blown out every game and be 0-6 IMO. Imagine if Tolzein had been playing all of these games. I would be like that Bear above!

[crazycolt1]

35 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

Really?  If I can read your 2 cents you can pretend to be mature and read my 2 cents for exactly what it is.  2 cents. 

Sorry, but IMO your 2 cents is worth about as much as this countries deficit.

[HungarianColtsFan]

1 hour ago, WarGhost21 said:

I agree. Luck needs to stop missing tackles and coach the team better and have better drafts. It's all his fault...

 

Finally, you're enlightened!

[RomanianColtsFan]

11 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

He has surpassed what Manning has done in his first 5 years.

 

No, his team did better based on playoff wins in the first 5 years.

Based on individual, QB performance evaluation he is nowhere near Peyton Manning.

[Corndog]

4 minutes ago, RomanianColtsFan said:

 

No, his team did better based on playoff wins in the first 5 years.

Based on individual, QB performance evaluation he is nowhere near Peyton Manning.

No, he isn't Peyton Manning and it's unfair to expect him to be, but he is still a very good QB.  Also the front office hasn't built around him, like they did with Manning.  Polian addressed the o-line much sooner than Grigson and he had two very good running backs for most of his Colts career. 

[dgambill]

21 hours ago, corgi said:

Anybody remember breakfast corn dogs? They were like a sausage links wrapped in a pancake. How has that not caught on at a fast food chain?

Some how the thought of eating meat on a stick in a moving vehicle just screams lawsuit waiting to happen....maybe that's how. But I agree sounds tasty!

[Deadpool]

On 10/17/2016 at 10:23 AM, YourNextGM said:

I don't know if you should get rid of him,  but the criticism is spot on.  Im so sick of his robotic oress conferences after another dumb mistake.  That throw had no business being made.  None.  U ad 3pts there and we win.  Nuff said.  His play is causing us gms now.  

 

okay so what about Pagano's decision on going for it on 4th and 1 instead of kicking a field goal? or the defensive collapse in the final 4 minutes of the game? The defense once again could not close out a game. They had Lamar Miller stopped 7 yards behind the first down marker on that first TD Drive in the 4th qtr and Miller ran right by 5 or 6 defenders for a TD.

 

 

[dgambill]

As for the thread....wow...who exactly are we going to replace him with? I'm up for any way to make this team better...any...but I see no realistic way getting rid of our most talented player could result in this team being better. That said I'm not going to totally absolve Andrew of his mistakes. He has played much better this year than last but with the margin for error so thin he just hasn't been quite good enough to get it done. This team is obviously not very good. In the last 16 starts Luck led teams are 4-12...this team is clearly not headed in the right direction. Andrew can improve on a lot of things....but the talent around him is pretty poor right now.

[southwest1]

3 hours ago, Malakai432 said:

 

Yeah there aren't going to be that many capable of coming in and doing a better job under this current system.

We'd all be cryin' in our beers or favorite spirits without Chewbacca under center wouldn't we? Oy Vey!

2 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I know things are bad right now sitting at 2-4 but without Luck we would be getting blown out every game and be 0-6 IMO. Imagine if Tolzein had been playing all of these games. I would be like that Bear above!

From Jim Sorgi to Scott Tolzien, WI Badger QBs drafted in the NFL usually suck & if you are forced to play them in your starting lineup at all, it usually means your season is over as in stick a fork in it; you're well done. 

[richard pallo]

1 hour ago, crazycolt1 said:

Sorry, but IMO your 2 cents is worth about as much as this countries deficit.

There you go;  Showing your immaturity again.  crazycolt1 being crazycolt1.  You just can't help yourself. 

[RollerColt]

1 hour ago, crazycolt1 said:

Sorry, but IMO your 2 cents is worth about as much as this countries deficit.

That's a lot o' pesos amigo! 

[crazycolt1]

1 hour ago, richard pallo said:

There you go;  Showing your immaturity again.  crazycolt1 being crazycolt1.  You just can't help yourself. 

You want to call me immature after throwing your 2 cents in on a subject you know little of?

You make a statement on Lucks medical issues?

Tell us where you get your information so the rest of us can be privy.

[csmopar]

5 hours ago, bluxco said:

if you cant bare the truth,dont read it

Truth, you want the truth, I'll give you the truth.

 

Lets examine this..... copied from NFL.Com

 

First 5 seasons starting for each of the QBs:

 

Aaron Rogers-

2012	Green Bay Packers	16	552	371	67.2	34.5	4,295	7.8	268.4	39	7.1	8	1.4	73	54	9	51	293	108.0
2011	Green Bay Packers	15	502	343	68.3	33.5	4,643	9.2	309.5	45	9.0	6	1.2	93T	64	13	36	219	122.5
2010	Green Bay Packers	15	475	312	65.7	31.7	3,922	8.3	261.5	28	5.9	11	2.3	86T	54	10	31	193	101.2
2009	Green Bay Packers	16	541	350	64.7	33.8	4,434	8.2	277.1	30	5.5	7	1.3	83T	55	17	50	306	103.2
2008	Green Bay Packers	16	536	341	63.6	33.5	4,038	7.5	252.4	28	5.2	13	2.4	71T	48	16	34	231	93.8

 

 

Peyton Manning-

2002	Indianapolis Colts	16	591	392	66.3	36.9	4,200	7.1	262.5	27	4.6	19	3.2	69	51	11	23	145	88.8
2001	Indianapolis Colts	16	547	343	62.7	34.2	4,131	7.6	258.2	26	4.8	23	4.2	86T	55	11	29	232	84.1
2000	Indianapolis Colts	16	571	357	62.5	35.7	4,413	7.7	275.8	33	5.8	15	2.6	78T	51	8	20	131	94.7
1999	Indianapolis Colts	16	533	331	62.1	33.3	4,135	7.8	258.4	26	4.9	15	2.8	80T	56	11	14	116	90.7
1998	Indianapolis Colts	16	575	326	56.7	35.9	3,739	6.5	233.7	26	4.5	28	4.9	78T	42	8	22	109	71.2

 

Tom Brady-

2005	New England Patriots	16	530	334	63.0	33.1	4,110	7.8	256.9	26	4.9	14	2.6	71	59	9	26	188	92.3
2004	New England Patriots	16	474	288	60.8	29.6	3,692	7.8	230.8	28	5.9	14	3.0	50	52	10	26	162	92.6
2003	New England Patriots	16	527	317	60.2	32.9	3,620	6.9	226.2	23	4.4	12	2.3	82T	44	8	32	219	85.9
2002	New England Patriots	16	601	373	62.1	37.6	3,764	6.3	235.2	28	4.7	14	2.3	49T	37	3	31	190	85.7
2001	New England Patriots	15	413	264	63.9	27.5	2,843	6.9	189.5	18	4.4	12	2.9	91T	32	6	41	216	86.5

 

Cam Newton-

 

2015	Carolina Panthers	16	495	296	59.8	30.9	3,837	7.8	239.8	35	7.1	10	2.0	74T	52	10	33	284	99.4
2014	Carolina Panthers	14	448	262	58.5	32.0	3,127	7.0	223.4	18	4.0	12	2.7	51	37	4	38	300	82.1
2013	Carolina Panthers	16	473	292	61.7	29.6	3,379	7.1	211.2	24	5.1	13	2.7	79T	33	7	43	336	88.8
2012	Carolina Panthers	16	485	280	57.7	30.3	3,869	8.0	241.8	19	3.9	12	2.5	82	57	11	36	244	86.2
2011	Carolina Panthers	16	517	310	60.0	32.3	4,051	7.8	253.2	21	4.1	17	3.3	91T	65	9	35	260	84.5

 

 

And now, 

 

Andrew Luck-

2016	Indianapolis Colts	6	237	152	64.1	39.5	1,721	7.3	286.8	11	4.6	4	1.7	64T	23	3	23	147	94.2
2015	Indianapolis Colts	7	293	162	55.3	41.9	1,881	6.4	268.7	15	5.1	12	4.1	87T	22	3	15	88	74.9
2014	Indianapolis Colts	16	616	380	61.7	38.5	4,761	7.7	297.6	40	6.5	16	2.6	80	73	15	27	161	96.5
2013	Indianapolis Colts	16	570	343	60.2	35.6	3,822	6.7	238.9	23	4.0	9	1.6	73T	43	9	32	227	87.0
2012	Indianapolis Colts	16	627	339	54.1	39.2	4,374	7.0	273.4	23	3.7	18	2.9	70T	65	11	41	246	76.5

 

 

 

 

So since you probably wont read it line by line, I'll break it down for you: he's really right there or better than all of these QBs, with the exception of maybe Aaron Rogers who was incredible his first few years, depending on the stat. If you look at his record w/l vs Mannings, he well ahead of Peyton, especially in playoff wins.  Also, I do recall numerous times Peyton had multiple INT games, including a 5 and 6 INT games. So yeah, you be the one who needs to see the truth. 

[SilentHill]

On 10/17/2016 at 11:11 AM, bluxco said:

LUCKS continuos mistakes in big moments kills COLTS---his interception in first half gave TEXANS momentum and his ground ball to T.Y. was another choke job.Tired of watching and listening to his dumb post game speeches

 

 

 

 

[crazycolt1]

5 hours ago, bluxco said:

if you cant bare the truth,dont read it

The 'bare' truth is you don't have a clue that Luck has been better than Manning over their first 4 years.

For you to say or think other wise shows your lack of understanding the NFL.

[Jaric]

So this thread is just for lolz right?

[Happy2BeHere]

We definitely need to get rid of "luck" and start winning games on solid skilled plays. I'm sure you know what I'm saying here

 

[Happy2BeHere]

2 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

The 'bare' truth is you don't have a clue that Luck has been better than Manning over their first 4 years.

For you to say or think other wise shows your lack of understanding the NFL.

 

Yup he sure has but over the first 4 years the team as a whole I think is inferior to what manning had. By all means NOT A. Lucks fault

[SilentHill]

8 hours ago, bluxco said:

OMG LOL!

 

Hello old friend.

 

[csmopar]

See above....

8 hours ago, RomanianColtsFan said:

 

No, his team did better based on playoff wins in the first 5 years.

Based on individual, QB performance evaluation he is nowhere near Peyton Manning.

[RockThatBlue]

On 10/17/2016 at 1:45 PM, tfunky14 said:

true, but Luck still needs to play better

Not sure if serious. Luck is on pace for his second best season as a Colt. What more can he do? The team around him needs to get better.

[RockThatBlue]

21 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Luck actually has played Very Good all season, I wont say Great because we are 2-4 but he isn't Turning it Over at an alarming rate and he is completing a high % of his passes. He even had a 20 Yard TD run last night.

Agreed. Can definitely tell Luck worked hard this offseason on improving his game. I remember many folks not happy with hiring Schottenheimer for QB Coach but it appears hes done wonders for Luck. 

[RockThatBlue]

11 hours ago, WarGhost21 said:

I agree. Luck needs to stop missing tackles and coach the team better and have better drafts. It's all his fault...

Faaaaarrr Luck

[AZColt11]

Yeah, because it was Luck's fault that he got them the "winning" points only to watch the defense vomit on the field and lose the games vs. Detroit, Jax, and now Houston.  Win those 3 games, as they SHOULD have if the D could have just held on, and this team is 5-1 and things are a mighty bit chipper around here.  But why let facts get in the way of a good old-fashioned "pitchforks and torches" mob?  BURN HIM AT THE STAKE!  HE'S A WITCH!