Jonotthan Harrison starting at center. (merge)

[Dark Superman]

I thought Luck and Shipley wer showing great chemistry.. Switching centers isn't good for the QB

[CR91]

Yes, Shipley knows the Ravens defensive line. But they, and their coaches, know Shipley too. And it could be simply a matchup issue.

— Tom James (@TribStarTJames)

October 5, 2014

 

Makes sense. 

 

if thats the case why not start holmes

[indy1888]

Phil Wilson who reported that there was disagreement about the move, also said it had nothing to do with matchups. I talked with him last night, he runs the scout forums now.  This is nothing more then the Colts wanting to give the rookie a shot to show what he can do.  Personally, i would have rather seen him start the last 2 weeks instead of his first start today, but whatever.  Hope it works or it's not going to look good at all for Pagano.

[Dark Superman]

I'm with you. If anyone knows the Ravens it would be Shipley because he spent some time there but the guy had done a great job in the last two games. Perplexed.

Why take the guy out if he's been playing lights out? And I don't understand why holmes has been inactive for the past three weeks? There has got to be something they aren't telling us

I doubt Harrison has been that dominant in practice

[Dark Superman]

Phil Wilson who reported that there was disagreement about the move, also said it had nothing to do with matchups. I talked with him last night, he runs the scout forums now.  This is nothing more then the Colts wanting to give the rookie a shot to show what he can do.  Personally, i would have rather seen him start the last 2 weeks instead of his first start today, but whatever.  Hope it works or it's not going to look good at all for Pagano.

I agree. Why would you throw him in the fire when you could of clearly have played him against Jacksonville or Tennessee

[Gavin]

I don't understand the "matchup" explanation. If Harrison can "matchup" better with Ngata and the Raven's D-line than Shipley could, theoretically, he'd be able to match up better than Shipley against pretty much anyone else in the league lol.

Not really, Strength pretty much yes I agree with few exceptions (Poe) but it could be that height wise staff has concerns...Shipley 6'1".....Ngata 6'4" and much longer arms....I think people are worrying about this change a bit to much today, Shipley was doing well in pass protection but I think some of his Line calls were off consistently and I don't believe he was generating much push in the run game

[rock8591]

Shipley's a glorified backup, much like Kirk Cousins of the Redskins.

After we see so much of Satele (or RG3 injured), we start thinking that their backups are actually good players, when they are not.

 

 

[CR91]

are they trying to get andrew killed? whos the genius that thinks an udfa can block ngata or pherre

[Dustin]

Not really, Strength pretty much yes I agree with few exceptions (Poe) but it could be that height wise staff has concerns...Shipley 6'1".....Ngata 6'4" and much longer arms....I think people are worrying about this change a bit to much today, Shipley was doing well in pass protection but I think some of his Line calls were off consistently and I don't believe he was generating much push in the run game

 

Right, but Harrison has all the physical advantages over Shipley.

 

If you're saying that Harrison is more phyiscally gifted, and matches up better with one of the NFL's premeir interior rushers, your basically saying that Harrison is better than Shipley, or at least matches up better with the majority of NFL D-lines. 

[Dark Superman]

I smell a possible trade coming up where we could be shipping out either Shipley or Holmes.

Perhaps a team desperate for a center could have shown interest in Shipley and they don't want to risk injury ..

I know it sounds stupid but who knows.

[NewEra]

For the 3rd time now............ Filling up Gatorade bottles

From starter to water boy. Sheesh boys better not be spraining their ankles lol

[B-B]

I will say this about #Colts' center situation -- the Horseshoe house was divided on this issue. Some did want A.Q. Shipley to start.

— Phillip B Wilson (@pwilson24)

October 5, 2014

 

 

Thaaattttsssss not good to do

[jvan1973]

are they trying to get andrew killed? whos the genius that thinks an udfa can block ngata or pherre

The guys who get paid to make those decisions. For the record, Jeff Saturday was undrafted

[IndyD4U]

I'll withhold judgment until 4 o'clock or so

[NewEra]

There will be anarchy if our line struggles.

[CR91]

The guys who get paid to make those decisions. For the record, Jeff Saturday was undrafted

 

dont even try to compare. this isnt the same at all. harrison has no real nfl experience and hes facing one of the top interior rushing teams

[dw49]

I smell a possible trade coming up where we could be shipping out either Shipley or Holmes.

Perhaps a team desperate for a center could have shown interest in Shipley and they don't want to risk injury ..

I know it sounds stupid but who knows.

 

 

Hardly any trade value for either guy.

[jvan1973]

dont even try to compare. this isnt the same at all. harrison has no real nfl experience and hes facing one of the top interior rushing teams

Saturday didn't have experience either until he did

[SteelCityColt]

I hope come the end of the game that who started at C is our biggest concern

[Gavin]

For the record I have NO problem going for it on 4th down on that play and not making it....NONE, I like the aggressive approach deep in Baltimore territory...We had that team backpedaling. It was just poor execution by our O Line

[Colts_Fan12]

Awesome I liked his potential in the preseason

[austriancolt]

A very odd decision! Shipley played well and why do they start Harrison and not Holmes who should be good after his injury. I mean they got all in with Holmes in the preseason as starting center and did nothing in free agency besides the Costa story. Very very odd that they start an undrafted rookie free agent now!

[1yrdandacloudofdust]

Manning never would've allowed his oline to be messed with. Luck needs to take charge. Pagano is obviously clueless. Wouldn't be shocked if this is a Grigson move.

[jvan1973]

Manning never would've allowed his oline to be messed with. Luck needs to take charge. Pagano is obviously clueless. Wouldn't be shocked if this is a Grigson move.

[John Dee]

Ship and the entire team have looked spectacular against Jax and Tenn..   the staff see these guys everyday in practice.  

 

Plus the Ravens know Ship very well......

[1yrdandacloudofdust]

Oh, a blitz up the middle caused an int. Franchise is a joke

[jvan1973]

Oh, a blitz up the middle caused an int. Franchise is a joke

Did you see where the pressure crane from? It wasn't Harrisons man

[John Dee]

Exactly it was Trent's responsibility  ...    tough play for even him..   the backer circled and came a little late.

 

 

Not Harrison's fault...  

Did you see where the pressure crane from? It wasn't Harrisons man

[John Dee]

Go away...

 

Oh, a blitz up the middle caused an int. Franchise is a joke

[1yrdandacloudofdust]

Wow, he is amazing. Im gone for today.

[jvan1973]

He screwed up that snap, no excuse for that one

[jvan1973]

Wow, he is amazing. Im gone for today.

good

[indy1888]

Harrison messes up the snap count. Wow

[NewEra]

I thought he blocked really well against a really good defense. Had a few bone head moments with his snap and snap count. i only really noticed him during the Bradshaw screen, if he would have gotten at least a half butt block on Mosley Bradshaw would have been gone.

[Dark Superman]

I don't think Harrison is the answer.

[NewEra]

Either is Shipley. It was his first game.

[Cynjin]

I thought he blocked really well against a really good defense. Had a few bone head moments with his snap and snap count. i only really noticed him during the Bradshaw screen, if he would have gotten at least a half butt block on Mosley Bradshaw would have been gone.

I agree, he blocked well at first look. He has to clean up the mistakes though.

[krunk]

Harrison blocked really well, but he's got to stop screwing the snap up and other bone head stuff.  He doesn't allow any pressures I'll say that.

[the cardinal]

I don't think Harrison is the answer.

How can you know this after ONE game?

[SteelCityColt]

Not the best outing, but not the worse either... 

 

As previously stated if this is the biggest gripe we've got today then I'm happy