HtownColt Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 @AdamSchefter: Ravens were unable to work out a restructured deal for FB Vonta Leach and plan to try to trade or release him Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 He was already released.https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/344223686078918657I would love to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dw49 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Don't think so as we have some decent low priced guys to fill that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 I would. Depending on contract terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 He's going to want 3+ mil a year though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 He's going to want 3+ mil a year though. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckColt Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 He's going to want 3+ mil a year though.Forget him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21isSuperman Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 With Havili on the roster as a FB, I don't think Leach will be in our plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Superman Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 We have Havili.. Who is young and growing.. leach is on his last leg and may only play one more year.. We are building for the future.. I believe in Havili as a FB.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ja'Crispy Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Dude is a wrecking ball and I would love to have him, but I don't expect the Colts to go after him. They see something in Havili. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Superman Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 There's no need at Fullback. Havili will certainly do fine there.. And if we land Bradshaw that gives us yet another big back who could block very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kirk Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 ANSWER. NO!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 We can't even sign Bradshaw! And plus, we STILL have to sign our 1st round pick remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jshipp23 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 To answer the original post, NOI wanna see what Havili brings to the table. I'm looking forward to all the new faces this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Colt Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Would like to add him but he wreaks of a classic guy you'll have to overpay for because he was on a title team and he wasn't a KEY KEY cog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltscodeblue Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Once again my answer..... http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluHorzhu Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 If nothing else, you posture as if you're interested in Leach to put more pressure on Bradshaw in his negotiations. The more expendable a player feels, the more he'll be willing to make concessions. Timing is everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Leach is an excellent fullback, but I think we are fine in that area. I like Havili, and we don't have to pay him as much coin as we would Leach. I also like what Dan Moore could bring into the mix. I'll pass on Leach at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Leach is an excellent fullback, but I think we are fine in that area. I like Havili, and we don't have to pay him as much coin as we would Leach. I also like what Dan Moore could bring into the mix. I'll pass on Leach at this time. I also want to see Moore, but if I had to choose between him and Leach right now, sorry Dan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I also want to see Moore, but if I had to choose between him and Leach right now, sorry Dan. Don't get me wrong at all! I LOVE me some Vontae Leach, but I can't see him and Havili on the same team. I also don't see Grigs getting rid of Havili. I just don't entirely see the need for Leach with what we currently have and the role the fullback will play in the passing game. Leach is a slam dunk in the running game, but I think Havili would be more of an asset in the passing game than V. Leach. Havili can lower the boom in the running game as well. I'm fairly comfortable with what we have overall. But like you mentioned(I think) if we got a steal price it might be worth considering I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownColt Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 How are people so sold on Havilli when he rarely played with the Eagles, you know what Leach is going to bring and that's pro bowl fullback play. Ill make a run at him in a heartbeat and give us a top 3 fullback in the game over a player who probably has 3 games worth of playing minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I'm pretty much content with Havili. He's very versatile as you can see from the videos. He's almost like another tailback who happens to be playing fullback. Not only can he catch, but he can get RAC yards after the catch. He's a good runner if you're looking at giving him the football, and he's also physical in the run game. I love Vontae Leach, but I think Havili enhances what we are able to do on offense a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 How are people so sold on Havilli when he rarely played with the Eagles, you know what Leach is going to bring and that's pro bowl fullback play. Ill make a run at him in a heartbeat and give us a top 3 fullback in the game over a player who probably has 3 games worth of playing minutes Love Leach, but what else can he do besides block? Not that quality blocking isn't important, but he adds nothing else to the offense. I just happen to like how versatile Havili is. Lesean Mcoy also enjoyed him as well. But unlike former Eagles fullback Jon Ritchie, current fullback Stanley Havili has been turning heads recently with his play. So much so that some in the Eagles locker room feel Havili might be worthy of a Pro-Bowl trip at the end of this season. “To be honest with you, last year he didn’t really have a chance to really play; didn’t get too many reps so we didn’t see what he could do. This year, he’s blowing people up. I don’t know if you guys have noticed, but it’s opening holes up. His energy [is great]; the will to want to block, the will to want to blow guys up and be successful. He’s blocking well. He’s having an excellent season. He should definitely get a chance to go to the Pro Bowl, for sure. I mean that. Well, us together.” That was LeSean McCoy talking about Havili after practice today, and it's easy to see why after the game Havili had against the New York Giants.http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2012/10/5/3461610/stanley-havili-coming-on-strong I just don't see the reason to pay big coin to a fullback. Even if it is Leach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfarley Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 yes, we have to have him, look for a tweet from Irsay on this situation soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownColt Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 Love Leach, but what else can he do besides block? Not that quality blocking isn't important, but he adds nothing else to the offense. I just happen to like how versatile Havili is. Lesean Mcoy also enjoyed him as well.But unlike former Eagles fullback Jon Ritchie, current fullback Stanley Havili has been turning heads recently with his play. So much so that some in the Eagles locker room feel Havili might be worthy of a Pro-Bowl trip at the end of this season.“To be honest with you, last year he didn’t really have a chance to really play; didn’t get too many reps so we didn’t see what he could do. This year, he’s blowing people up. I don’t know if you guys have noticed, but it’s opening holes up. His energy [is great]; the will to want to block, the will to want to blow guys up and be successful. He’s blocking well. He’s having an excellent season. He should definitely get a chance to go to the Pro Bowl, for sure. I mean that. Well, us together.”That was LeSean McCoy talking about Havili after practice today, and it's easy to see why after the game Havili had against the New York Giants.http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2012/10/5/3461610/stanley-havili-coming-on-strongI just don't see the reason to pay big coin to a fullback. Even if it is LeachVontae leach caught 21 passes last year, that's alot, its near the top among FBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Vontae leach caught 21 passes last year, that's alot, its near the top among FBs I think if Havili got those same opportunities in the passing game he'd do more than Leach could do. I think he'd have more effect on RAC than Leach would have. I think the kid needs more of a shot. I think if Havili can give us close to the level of what Hynoski did for Bradshaw in the rungame we'll be fine. And Hynoski doesn't command a sizeable salary I don't think. As I paid closer attention to the Bradshaw film I actually gained a better respect for Hynoski the moreI watched. If we didn't already have Havili and Leach came available I would probably take a second and a third look at my stance, but I'm going to stand firm since that is not the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonMcG Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Why in God's name would a team that plans to integrate a Full Back sign by far and away the best FB in football? Especially considering our already stellar running game? Crazy talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfarley Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 We have no choice but to make a HARD play for him, I mean rabid and fast and hard play, I expect an announcement by around 4 today on his signing. DLMDRG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I think if Havili got those same opportunities in the passing game he'd do more than Leach could do.I think he'd have more effect on RAC than Leach would have. I think the kid needs more of a shot.I think if Havili can give us close to the level of what Hynoski did for Bradshaw in the rungame we'll be fine. And Hynoski doesn't command a sizeable salary I don't think. As I paid closer attention to the Bradshaw film I actually gained a better respect for Hynoski the moreI watched. If we didn't already have Havili and Leach came available I would probably take a second and a third look at my stance, but I'm going to stand firm since that is not the issue. We're not itching for Leach, but he's a better fullback than Havili, despite Havili's potential to make plays in the passing game. We can stand pat, and I'll be fine. I'm just saying that, if it were me, I'd be looking closely at Leach, given what the coaches say they want to do on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corgi Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Yes we should. He's the best FB in the NFL, and I would think Moore is PS eligible. Also..... Brad Wells (BBS) @StampedeBlue 2h Ravens Release FB Vontae Leach, Colts Could Pursue Him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarassedOffTheSite Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Yes we should. He's the best FB in the NFL, and I would think Moore is PS eligible. Agreed. I'd sign him immediately. With that said, I suspect he'll have a few takers. The 49ers come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I'd take Havili he is young and is improving he looked great at USC too I think with pep he will be a top fullback in the NFL and as I said he is young so he can be a top fullback for years too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarassedOffTheSite Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I'd take Havili he is young and is improving he looked great at USC too I think with pep he will be a top fullback in the NFL and as I said he is young so he can be a top fullback for years too Yeah. We may well already have our man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesie jr Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I think we'll stick with Havili and Moore. I would love Leach on our team but he is old. I have seen some people say he'll come to the colts because of the Pagano link but look at Ed Reed, and his link was with Miami and Baltimore and we still didn't make a move for him. Instead we went with the younger Landry instead. I can see us going with the younger player here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanianColtsFan Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 He says he wants to return to Texans.http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/11/leach-wants-to-return-to-texans/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfarley Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 next up, Leach, let's not let him go to the Texans. We need to beat the Texans this year and win the division so we don't have to go back to Baltimore and get our butts kicked in the playoffs where one of the only places our head coach will look confused is located. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 If we could get him almost just to keep from the Texans I would be for it but I have a feeling in order to do that we would have to really over pay to do that and I just don't think fullbacks are valuable enough to over pay for even if one is as good as Leach is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKColt13 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Leach is an absolute monster. He is a wrecking ball out of the backfield, who carves through D lines like a knife through butter. But with Havilli is on our roster, and Grogs likes him. So I don't think he'll be a big target.But I can't lie, I would be ecstatic if we picked him up. Even on a 1 year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 We got Bradshaw for cheap... (1.1mil. +250k signing bonus)... While we still haven't signed Werner, there should still be plenty of cap left to sign Leach (somewhere around 2-3 mil. per, I'd guess) and have a small emergency stash for the season... I like the FBs that we've brought in and I don't think that its a need at all, but Leach is that much better than they are, making it worth it in my eyes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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