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Colts 9.5 underdogs


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We don't know what this team will look like when the bullets are live. We do know that we are challenged in the trenches and we know what Chicago brings to the table physically. Rookie quarterback in his first regular season game on the road against a legit physical defense...I think the Bears cover this.

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Depends, Chicago's Defense is pretty equal to the Steeler's difficulty wise for us. their secondary isn't any better than ours, but their D-line is light years ahead of ours. Urlacher is older, injured, and may not even play, but definitely won't be 100% nor will he be Urlacher circa 2005. On the flip side, their WR's should be improved, Forte is always good, and they have M. Bush as well now..... but, their Oline is no better than ours..... I wouldn't favor Indy, but 9.5 is maybe a bit large for the spread.....

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I really think the new look colts will come together. I don't think the offense will be anywhere near as bad as predicted but the defense I am not so sure of a lot of changes. If we stop the run Sunday we have a chance to keep it close. Unless Lovies bears have a total meltdown which at home against an underdog they are known to do then I don't see Indy winning. 9.5 we will have to see I think it will be closer.

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I think most people are seriously over-estimating the Bears. Their O-line is just as suspect as ours, They have 1 good receiver and the rest are average at best, besides Peppers, I don't think their D-line is anything special. Urlacher is old and coming off surgery so he may not even play. Their CB's are nothing special. Yes, i still think they are better overall than the colts, but I seriously think they aren't that good. If we can keep their running game in check, I think there is a chance we beat them.

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  1. i just dont see us winning this game. roach urlacher and briggs, then julius peppers is gunna have a field day as well. forte and bush will dominate the run game, and we dont have angerer in too. cutler now has alshon jeffery and brandon marshall, big physical wide recievers and we'll have to see how our corners play. the best way to look at many of the games this year is expect the worst but hope for the best, so when they do surprise everyone it is absolutely sweet. except when we play miami and minnesota, and jaksonville. pretty sure we should be able to beat them haha

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The site I use for "entertainment purposes only" has the following:

Colts +11 -135

Colts +9.5 -110

Moneyline (straight up Colts win) +400

Colts score over 16.5 -110

Regular season Colts wins over 4.5 -300

Regular season Colts wins over 5 -205

Regular season Colts wins over 5.5 -105

Colts to win AFC South +2600

Colts to make Playoffs +1200

Colts win AFC +7500

Colts win Super Bowl +17500

Here is an interesting one.

Season TD passes...

Luck -2.5 more than RG3 +100

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They're not built on football bets.

What's your point? I'll give you this - Vegas sets the original line and then adjusts it as bets are made throughout the week. If too many people bet on the Bears they'll raise the spread. So, when it comes to football (and other sports) it's more about perception.

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What's your point? I'll give you this - Vegas sets the original line and then adjusts it as bets are made throughout the week. If too many people bet on the Bears they'll raise the spread. So, when it comes to football (and other sports) it's more about perception.

I don't think Vegas is particularly that great at predicting outcomes of football games, but are good at manipulating perception. ( your right about that )

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They don't build those huge casinos in Vegas by being wrong very often. But occasionally they are.

Remember the first game at LOS? I'm pretty sure Vegas got that spread wrong. Maybe it's payback time.

They are basing it off of nothing, They have no historical stats to base it off of, it's more or less what "feels" right in this situation.

Once the colts throw up a few upsets the vegas line will compensate.

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The spread has nothing to do with being right or wrong. It's about getting the betting money split evenly.

If you read what I said earlier, you'll see I agree. But they have to come up with the correct 'perception', if you will. If they said the Colts were favored in the game, they'd have an overwhelming number of bets on the Bears, right?

So, they have to come up with an original line that's realistic. Like I said in my first post, look at the first game at LOS. We played the Bears, and if I'm not mistaken, we were favored. Vegas can be wrong. But in most cases, their line is realistic.

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10 point spread sounds about right.

But the game will be close until the 4th quarter.

I hear you RW.....

If you can get the Colts and 10..take it...

It the Bears get up big in the second half, they'll pull folks because they play again Thursday...

..and their second string has been smoked in the pre-season...

We'll stay with the first string all the way... and you might cash in on +10 with a consolation TD because we'll work on the pass game

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I think most people are seriously over-estimating the Bears. Their O-line is just as suspect as ours, They have 1 good receiver and the rest are average at best, besides Peppers, I don't think their D-line is anything special. Urlacher is old and coming off surgery so he may not even play. Their CB's are nothing special. Yes, i still think they are better overall than the colts, but I seriously think they aren't that good. If we can keep their running game in check, I think there is a chance we beat them.

the Bears went 11-5 and made it to the NFC Championship game with a suspect O-line and those average at best receivers. they were 7-3 with the same issues before they lost Cutler. now they have Marshall, Jeffrey, and Bush. definite improvements. I'll reserve judgement on their defense since Urlacher is going to be the unknown. but with or without him, they are physical. Peppers worries me.

So I personally think you are seriously under-estimating that team. they battle with whatever they have and we are in for a fight IN CHICAGO. I think 9.5 is fair.

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the Bears went 11-5 and made it to the NFC Championship game with a suspect O-line and those average at best receivers. they were 7-3 with the same issues before they lost Cutler. now they have Marshall, Jeffrey, and Bush. definite improvements. I'll reserve judgement on their defense since Urlacher is going to be the unknown. but with or without him, they are physical. Peppers worries me.

So I personally think you are seriously under-estimating that team. they battle with whatever they have and we are in for a fight IN CHICAGO. I think 9.5 is fair.

I completely agree, this was a team that looked very dominate midway through last season. They started off a little rough, but once they had things figured out they looked unstoppable and even moreso at Soldier Field. After Cutler went down and eventually Forte they struggled, but with a healthy Culter and the additions they made this year I think it's reasonable to believe the Bears can beat the Colts by 10 points. We also have to remember this is Luck's first game in the NFL, even if did look good in the preseason, the regular season is a different beast and the game is much faster. The Bears o-line is easily their biggest weakness, but if Cutler can roll out of the pocket, which he likes to do, he could tear this defense apart. It's not an impossible game for the Colts to win, but improbable and difficult. With all of the new players, new coaching, and new systems, I think the Colts could be off to a rough start and start figuring things out about mid-season. Rebuilding doesn't happen overnight, but I think the Colts may be able to accomplish it faster than many other teams.

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Im sorry we're talking about the bears right? the same team that has the QB their fan base had a problem with cause of his lack of progress?

The colts take this game down to the wire, the only person i think that will keep the bears in the game is their RB

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Im sorry we're talking about the bears right? the same team that has the QB their fan base had a problem with cause of his lack of progress?

The colts take this game down to the wire, the only person i think that will keep the bears in the game is their RB

Apparently you didn't watch Cutler play much last year.
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I think most people are seriously over-estimating the Bears. Their O-line is just as suspect as ours, They have 1 good receiver and the rest are average at best, besides Peppers, I don't think their D-line is anything special. Urlacher is old and coming off surgery so he may not even play. Their CB's are nothing special. Yes, i still think they are better overall than the colts, but I seriously think they aren't that good. If we can keep their running game in check, I think there is a chance we beat them.

i am with you, we are an unknown team, with a new system, i for one think it will work, we win
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Apparently you didn't watch Cutler play much last year.

What you mean those 13td's and 7int's? lol yea... the bears were good as a team last year but he didnt have the stats to show much in those ten games.

Jay Cutler is not an elite QB he's an above avg QB with an awesome arm.. i wouldnt put money on them blowing out the colts.

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I might be wrong on this, but I believe Vegas just sets the initial point spread and it changes as votes come in. For example, if there is heavy betting on the colts to cover, then the spread will drop down. Its designed so that Vegas doesn't completely lose its butt if they overshoot the initial line - want to get roughly equal betting on both sides. Whatever it is when you bet is what you're locked in at though.

That being said, I think 10 points is about right.

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