Roster moves

[GoColts8818]

Fries is not a surprise and after his performance yesterday not sad to see Flowers go.

[JediXMan]

Damn finally some accountability I guess now Ballard isn’t trusting his young guys lol.

[PeterBowman]

Didn't watch yesterday but was Flowers responsible for a lot of the big plays?

[JediXMan]

Just now, PeterBowman said:

Didn't watch yesterday but was Flowers responsible for a lot of the big plays?

Gave up two TDs he was so bad. Even Kenny moore was visibly upset with him.

[Shadow_Creek]

nice start but its not enough...

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

I like the accountability but who are they going to replace him with. Thst room is already lacking 

[Rolltide_gocolts]

Yeaa flowers was straight up 💩💩

[KB]

Too bad that Flowers didn't work out. Everything pre injury looked great. Best of luck.

[Dingus McGirt]

1 minute ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I like the accountability but who are they going to replace him with. Thst room is already lacking 

Addition by subtraction.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Womack having that sickness caused flowers to be on the field more yesterday.

[richard pallo]

There are still some veteran FA corners still available.  I think Xavier Howard.  Maybe Witherspoon too.  More likely to sign someone off a practice squad though.  

[JediXMan]

I’m not defending Flowers but I’m hoping he didn’t just become a scapegoat for the biggest problem in the room Gus Bradley.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

So Ballards philosophy of relying on CB coming back from injury has flat out failed. Brents got injured and flowers never recovered.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

2 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

There are still some veteran FA corners still available.  I think Xavier Howard.  Maybe Witherspoon too.  More likely to sign someone off a practice squad though.  

Mr guess is David Long jr signing to the roster.

[Happy2BeHere]

No more flowering yay

[Superman]

3 minutes ago, JediXMan said:

I’m not defending Flowers but I’m hoping he didn’t just become a scapegoat for the biggest problem in the room Gus Bradley.

 

I object to the term scapegoat. Flowers was waived because he hasn't been good enough.

[GoColts8818]

Just now, Superman said:

 

I object to the term scapegoat. Flowers was waived because he hasn't been good enough.

Yeah Bradley being bad isn’t excuse for Flowers play.  Both can be true and both needed addressing 

[lollygagger8]

2 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

I object to the term scapegoat. Flowers was waived because he hasn't been good enough.

 

Hopefully that logic gets applied to Gus as well 

[Superman]

15 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I like the accountability but who are they going to replace him with. Thst room is already lacking 

 

Womack took his place a long time ago. 

[JediXMan]

2 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

I object to the term scapegoat. Flowers was waived because he hasn't been good enough.

 
I agree I’m just surprised they did something instead of sticking and liking their young guys.

[Superman]

Just now, lollygagger8 said:

 

Hopefully that logic gets applied to Gus as well 

 

I believe it should. If Gus gets fired, it's because he isn't good at his job. 

[Superman]

Just now, JediXMan said:

 
I agree I’m just surprised they did something instead of sticking and liking their young guys.

 

He basically got replaced by Womack right away. 

 

It's too bad, really. I think Flowers was playing reasonably well before he got hurt last year, but that's a tough injury to come back from as a DB. No question he'll clear waivers, and maybe he'll wind up back on the PS. But he shouldn't be on the gameday roster right now, that's for sure.

 

Also, this frees up two roster spots. I wonder what the plan is. Buckner can't come back until next week, if he's even ready by then.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

2 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

Womack took his place a long time ago. 

Womack had an illness and was put on the injury report late. Dallas took some of his snaps because of his illness. Sorry if I didn’t make that clear.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

4 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

Womack took his place a long time ago. 

It still affects depth. We have to sign someone.

[BCMak24]

Good since flowers was stinking up the joint

[Rolltide_gocolts]

Womack is the only corner I’ve seen with actual reflexes and reaction timing that seems worthy  of playing zone scheme….. our linebackers don’t have any!!! Like not even a tad bit, but that’s for another thread

[Superman]

2 minutes ago, Rolltide_gocolts said:

Womack is the only corner I’ve seen with actual reflexes and reaction timing that seems worthy  of playing zone scheme….. our linebackers don’t have any!!! Like not even a tad bit, but that’s for another thread

 

Womack looks really good. That play he made on 4th down was impressive.

[BeanDiasucci]

Looks a little thin. At least they still have Jones whose 50.8 PFF perimeter coverage grade going into yesterday's game ranked seventh worst among 65 cornerbacks with at least 55 perimeter coverage snaps. 

 

[Pelt]

So the Colts just got de-Flowered?

 

 

[Defjamz26]

It’s crazy to think that they had penciled him in as a starter last season. Tbh I think he shows why it’s important to have veterans come in and compete. I think he was a guy who looked way better than he actually was. When he was forced to play more, it really exposed him. 

[CoachLite]

49 minutes ago, JediXMan said:

Damn finally some accountability I guess now Ballard isn’t trusting his young guys lol.

I guess when Ballard said, "I like our guys", he meant he'd like some of our guys gone. I feel that way about some of the coaching staff. For all those who say, "Dance with the Devil you know", I'd respond, "Get to know some new devils".

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 minute ago, Defjamz26 said:

It’s crazy to think that they had penciled him in as a starter last season. Tbh I think he shows why it’s important to have veterans come in and compete. I think he was a guy who looked way better than he actually was. When he was forced to play more, it really exposed him. 

Remember when Ballard went out and got Rodney McLeod because cross was a rookie. He ended up being the starter. We need more of that.

[Hawkeyecolt]

I had high hopes that Flowers would develop after his rookie season. He’s looked god awful this year. I don’t think he was tested much last year prior to the injury.  His mistakes haven’t been due to his achillies. It’s been blown coverages and assignments.  He can’t be trusted to be in the field. You can see his teammates getting PO’d at him.  Guys off the street are passing him on the depth chart.  Jones at least has made some plays.   I also wonder if there’s a lack of accountability on his part to get sent walking considering the lack of depth. 

[John Hammonds]

37 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

So Ballards philosophy of relying on CB coming back from injury has flat out failed. Brents got injured and flowers never recovered.

Let's also remember that Flowers didn't just all of the sudden suck.  He was bad in preseason as well.  And "somebody" saw his preseason performance and decided to go with him anyway.  When does that "somebody" also pay a price?

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

I am pretty sure they said there was only a slim chance Brent’s would be back this season.

 

 

Just now, John Hammonds said:

Let's also remember that Flowers didn't just all of the sudden suck.  He was bad in preseason as well.  And "somebody" saw his preseason performance and decided to go with him anyway.  When does that "somebody" also pay a price?

Yep. Ballard could of fixed this before the season started.

[CoachLite]

Flowers was a case of "if you don't know what you're doing, don't do it here". I suspect Bradley made sure that the defense didn't know what they were doing. In that regard, Bradley has been successful.

[tweezy32]

our whole secondary is dookie. Not surprised in the slightest. Wonder why everyone was bashing Ballard for not signing free agent secondary in the offseason..

[tfunky14]

36 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

Yeah Bradley being bad isn’t excuse for Flowers play.  Both can be true and both needed addressing 

Well, you call the defense or offensive play and you expect players to execute the play. Do your job is the motto for many teams. you don't do your job you get released. 

[csmopar]

59 minutes ago, PeterBowman said:

Didn't watch yesterday but was Flowers responsible for a lot of the big plays?

Yes and at least 2 touchdowns. One he wasn’t even in the zip code on

[GoColts8818]

2 minutes ago, tfunky14 said:

Well, you call the defense or offensive play and you expect players to execute the play. Do your job is the motto for many teams. you don't do your job you get released. 

Yeah but in this case not only was he not executing the plays called but the plays called from the start were bad too.  There are multiple problems with the Colts defense.