Blueblazes Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 We know this will be a learning experience for AR this season. What are your acceptable key results for Richardson this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Breeze Posted September 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2023 Be better in game 17 than he was in game 1. 12 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestQBever Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 It's gonna be all eye test for me this year. If I had to say stats, 3000+ passing yards and 500+ rushing and a 2:1 total TD to int ratio would be nice 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosejawcolt Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, Blueblazes said: We know this will be a learning experience for AR this season. What are your acceptable key results for Richardson this season? 17 games. Let's say 3800 yards, 20 picks and 17 touchdowns. That would be a good year based on where he is coming from. Just now, Moosejawcolt said: 17 games. Let's say 3800 yards, 20 picks and 17 touchdowns. That would be a good year based on where he is coming from. Oh and rushing for 900 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w87r Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 3500yds passing 58% comp % 22 pass TD's 14 int 650yds rushing 6 rush TD's 5 > fumbles lost 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 3000 yards passing 500-700 yards rushing 25-30 total tds Completion percentage Anything over 60 percent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLILLINGTON10 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Whatever he needs to do to win OROY and shut a bunch of people up. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Breeze said: Be better in game 17 than he was in game 1. They’ll probably rest him that game so he’ll be fresh for the playoff game. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProblChld32 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Blueblazes said: We know this will be a learning experience for AR this season. What are your acceptable key results for Richardson this season? I expect him to throw atleast 13 picks minimum 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 1000 passing yards 30 percent completion 32 tds 17 ints 3000 rushing yards 30 rushing tds lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKB Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 2 hours ago, w87r said: 3500yds passing 58% comp % 22 pass TD's 14 int 650yds rushing 6 rush TD's 5 > fumbles lost my answer same as 87r 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD FAN MAN Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 just hope he can beat our win total from last year, i dont care about stats only finding a way to win is what is most important 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKB Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 29 minutes ago, OLD FAN MAN said: just hope he can beat our win total from last year, i dont care about stats only finding a way to win is what is most important yeah, i want like 7 wins at least. is that hoping for too much considering all the other roster factors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblazes Posted September 1, 2023 Author Share Posted September 1, 2023 15 minutes ago, AKB said: yeah, i want like 7 wins at least. is that hoping for too much considering all the other roster factors? It really is starting to look pretty bad, almost unraveling, when you may lose the best Rb in the league, have a qb that threw 17 TDs in college and several other holes to fill not filled in the offseason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 2800 passing yards... 55% completion 15TD/17INT 800 yards rushing, 10 rushing TDs 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKB Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 42 minutes ago, Blueblazes said: It really is starting to look pretty bad, almost unraveling, when you may lose the best Rb in the league, have a qb that threw 17 TDs in college and several other holes to fill not filled in the offseason. im really concerned about corner. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 3 hours ago, w87r said: 3500yds passing 58% comp % 22 pass TD's 14 int 650yds rushing 6 rush TD's 5 > fumbles lost damn, you have high expectations Rookie QBs rarely have positive TD-INT ratio and you have him at +8 That would be a fantastic season IMO. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matabix Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 4000+ all purpose yards passing and rushing. 30 tds by air or ground. 60+% completion. Try to keep ints under 20. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKB Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 feels like we are gonna be in a lot of high-scoring games, and I don't know if that's gonna be good for Richardson or not. to me, it seems like a detriment. part of his success is gonna depend on the defense pausing for read action. How often is a defense gonna fall for read action when it's 3rd and 10 or longer? Just think a bad defense might be a speed bump to his development 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJpalmbeacher2 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Stats not important.... Progression is and improving and correcting the things he needs to. Even the win total is less important if they not making the playoffs. In fact, if missing the playoffs (and the way Ballard put this offense together missing the playoffs is very likely) less wins is preferable for drafting....especially for a team that doesn't spend in FA. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#12. Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 To have any kind of idea, I think we have to see how Steichen calls a regular season game first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colts89 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 I read some pretty high up their expectations so far that are borderline unrealistic IMHO. AR is probably going to suck this year. And we should frankly all be expecting it given his inexperience and lack of elite talent on the offense with him. The important thing is that he gradually improves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_ Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 3 hours ago, OLD FAN MAN said: just hope he can beat our win total from last year, i dont care about stats only finding a way to win is what is most important You really haven't been paying attention this off-season, have you? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w87r Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 2 hours ago, stitches said: damn, you have high expectations Rookie QBs rarely have positive TD-INT ratio and you have him at +8 That would be a fantastic season IMO. IDK? Probably? 3500yds = 206yds per game 22 TDs = 1.3tds per game 14 INTs = .8ints per game 650yds = 38.2yds rush per game 6 TDs = .35tds per game Will he play that good, perhaps not, but these aren't some.crazy unattainable numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoltan Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 7 hours ago, Breeze said: Be better in game 17 than he was in game 1. Yeah that’s the only thing I care about lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 15,000 yards 110% completion rate 975 total TDs 4,500 rushing yards 0 int, 0 fumbles otherwise he is a bust. Oh and that is just for game 1. Per Holder… in real person land, I’d say as long as he shows improvement from game 1 to game 21, I’m happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 hour ago, w87r said: IDK? Probably? 3500yds = 206yds per game 22 TDs = 1.3tds per game 14 INTs = .8ints per game 650yds = 38.2yds rush per game 6 TDs = .35tds per game Will he play that good, perhaps not, but these aren't some.crazy unattainable numbers. Jalen Hurts last season. Almost MVP 3700 passing yards(15 games) 22 TDs 6 INT 760 rushing yards, 13TDs Just for some context... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w87r Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 2 hours ago, stitches said: Jalen Hurts last season. Almost MVP 3700 passing yards(15 games) 22 TDs 6 INT 760 rushing yards, 13TDs Just for some context... Taking stats from 15 games and comparing them to 17 games? Passing Yards could potentially be a little high, but again, I don't think 208yds passing a game is a very big projection. Hurts avg almost 40yds more per game than that last year. I have Richardson throwing 2x+ amount of picks as Hurts. I don't see how Rich won't have 500-600 yds rushing? I have him having 7 less rushing TDs? 150yds less. While playing 2 games more. Those 2 seasons (actual vs hypothetical) looked nothing alike Just not so sure of reason for push back on it? Is it really that much different from your projections? 7 hours ago, stitches said: 2800 passing yards... 55% completion 15TD/17INT 800 yards rushing, 10 rushing TDs 3% difference on Comp % 3600 total yards vs 4150 total yards (32yds a game) 25 TDs vs 28 TDs (.18 more per game) 17 INTs vs 14 INTs (.18 less per game) Like I said, just not sure, it was worth the double down with the "context....", MVP comparison post. Only big differences are passing yards and I already said that might be a little high, and I have him throwing more TDs than you do, but you have him running more TDs than I do. Again differences: 32 total yards per game .18 difference in total TDs .18 difference in INTs thrown 3% difference in completion % 6 hours ago, stitches said: 10 hours ago, w87r said: Rookie QBs rarely have positive TD-INT ratio and you have him at +8 I don't know about that? https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/best-touchdown-to-interception-ratio-rookie-qb And are happening more frequently. I started my projections with the thought of 1TD /1 INT a game. Went slightly below 1 for INT and a little above 1 for TDs. Will it flip and be the other way? Perhaps, but again still don't see the reason for the "context..." Like it was some big crazy outlandish projection, when again isn't "that" much different than yours as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid84 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 6 hours ago, stitches said: 2800 passing yards... 55% completion 15TD/17INT 800 yards rushing, 10 rushing TDs This is about what I expect as well. 2500-2800 yards 54-58% completion 13-18 TDs 15-20 Ints 600-900 Yards rushing 6-10 TDs rushing 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crunked Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 50% completion range in the teens TD passing probably in the 20's INT's and throw in better than 5 less than 10 rushing TD's ..... and to me that would be progress over his 1 college year provided more of the good stats start building and the bad stats start diminishing as the year unfolds.....I expect the first 4-6 weeks to be brutal for him. (<-) ironically that might be the same timeline of seeing Taylor on the field.....and I am saying this with the thought Taylor somehow doesn't see the field this year.......GOD love the outside talking heads attribute his improvement TO taylors return.......I am saying thats (WITHOUT Taylor input) .......it probably gives Taylor the leg up in looking even more valuable if it plays out that way though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indyfan4life Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 3,000+ yards 23 TD 16 INT 750 rush yards 7 rush TD I don’t think that’s unrealistic and I’d be happy with those numbers. Obviously less INT the better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smittywerb Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 I think a good year by ARs standard would be: - 3000 passing yards - 800 rushing yards - 20 touchdowns (passing), 5 touchdowns (rushing) - 15 interceptions - 65% completion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 2 hours ago, w87r said: Is it really that much different from your projections? I guess our biggest differences in expectations are how much he will be passing and TD/INT ratio. I expect him to run more and have more trouble with the pass... but I do expect him to be really successful running the ball. Your projection seems much more well rounded. I actually would expect those type of stats(your projection) for year 2 if he has my projection type year 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyagent17 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 3460 yds passing 1215 rushing 14 TD 15 Ins 63% pass percentage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 QBR as to how well he took care of the ball w.r.t turnovers and how well he played in key 3rd down situations while making positive plays consistently. Anything below 1 INT a game average, I would take. Anything above 60% completion, I would take. If we score 20-25 ppg consistently and his performance over the last quarter (of the season and games) is better than the first quarter, that is a win for the future, even if it results in just a handful of wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 89,214 passing yards, 649 tds 212 ints 7 super bowl rings all on one season lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 12 hours ago, w87r said: 3500yds passing 58% comp % 22 pass TD's 14 int 650yds rushing 6 rush TD's 5 > fumbles lost Yeah I could post something different but it wouldn't be much different. So great post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creekside Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 The OP asks what stats are acceptable ... I would certainly "accept" a first season of a one to one TD to INT ratio....say, 18 TD to 18 INT. I think this would be "acceptable" to all of us...Then in year two we could "expect" a better ratio...say, 23 TD to 16 INT. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerColt Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Anything over 15 touchdowns. Anything less than 20 interceptions. Anything over a 50% completion. Anything over 2,000 yards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerColt Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 Some stats for the junkies on rookie years. Use them how you see fit: Jalen Hurts - 2020 Games: 15 Pass Yards: 1,061 Rush Yards: 354 Comp Pct: 52% Pass TDs: 6 Ints: 4 Rush TDs: 3 Fumbles: 6 Justin Herbert - 2020 Games: 15 Pass Yards: 4,336 Rush Yards: 234 Comp Pct: 66.6% Pass TDs: 31 Ints: 10 Rush TDs: 5 Fumbles: 4 Cam Newton - 2011 Games: 16 Pass Yards: 4,051 Rush Yards: 706 Comp Pct: 60% Pass TDs: 21 Ints: 17 Rush TDs: 14 Fumbles: 2 Lamar Jackson - 2018 Games: 16 Pass Yards: 1,201 Rush Yards: 695 Comp Pct: 58.25 Pass TDs: 6 Ints: 3 Rush TDs: 5 Fumbles: 10 Josh Allen - 2018 Games: 12 Pass Yards: 2,074 Rush Yards: 631 Comp Pct: 52.8% Pass TDs: 10 Ints: 12 Rush TDs: 8 Fumbles: 5 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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