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16 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:


Your imagination is working overtime! 

Nope.  Everything about the Colts coaching hire is unprecedented.  From how he hired the IHC to the slow and expansive process of hiring this HC.  Why is that?  When something is unprecedented, there is a reason behind it. 

 

You guys are not using any imagination at all and are happily being filled with what Irsay says it is.  Even at the same time acknowledging everything has been unprecedented.

 

Irsay caught a bunch of flak for the way he hired Saturday...almost to the point of questioning the "process" of how the NFL hires IHCs (and building coaching resume's).  This HC process has been uniquely thorough as a response to that as much as it has been about actually needing to talk with 8 guys for 16 hours each.

 

None of it means that they didn't already want Jeff or Steichen by January 1st.

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13 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

It may not age well but I have a gut feeling it will be Jeff and then this place will do this Explosion Explode GIF by Minnesota State University Moorhead- if it is Jeff, I will still watch and hope we draft a QB that can lead the way. I love the Colts regardless.


Glad that you still will be a fan.   
 

For me, I can’t imagine a worse look for a franchise.   To hold the biggest, longest coaching search in NFL history and have it end with Saturday as the winner?!?!?    The worst possible outcome.   It would have zero credibility.   It would get killed by local media and national media.   Irsay’s reputation, as checkered as it is,  would take an incredible beating, and rightfully so.   And don’t even get me started on Ballard.   I would think plenty of current Colts front office types would start looking for work elsewhere.   They likely won’t resign, but they’d start making calls and putting out feelers.   
 

For all those reasons, and more,  I seriously hope you’re wrong.  

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4 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I don’t read to much into that. Sometimes philosophies just don’t mesh.

 

But they hired Frank.

 

Judging by how Frank played with Ehlinger and listening to the things he's said for the past 6 months, he wants to do what Nick is doing.

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4 minutes ago, #12. said:

Carolina didn't invite Steichen back and hired Frank over Steichen.  Makes you wonder. 

 

If it's him, hopefully it works out. 

That’s a big red flag for me.  To not even get a second interview.  Obviously he didn’t impress them.  You get one chance to impress.  And he failed too.  But he got a second interview with the Colts.  So did a lot of candidates.  Oh well.

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9 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:


Glad that you still will be a fan.   
 

For me, I can’t imagine a worse look for a franchise.   To hold the biggest, longest coaching search in NFL history and have it end with Saturday as the winner?!?!?    The worst possible outcome.   It would have zero credibility.   It would get killed by local media and national media.   Irsay’s reputation, as checkered as it is,  would take an incredible beating, and rightfully so.   And don’t even get me started on Ballard.   I would think plenty of current Colts front office types would start looking for work elsewhere.   They likely won’t resign, but they’d start making calls and putting out feelers.   
 

For all those reasons, and more,  I seriously hope you’re wrong.  

I hope I am wrong too but this search is still on going (way too long IMO). I was listening to CBS radio the last 2 nights and the hosts said they would laugh at us if we hired Jeff. I still think the coaching job is better here than Denver's, Denver has no draft capital and a washed up QB, yet they hired Sean Payton. Payton has almost no chance there. We at least have the 4th pick in the draft and can maybe get Young or Stroud. 

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6 minutes ago, #12. said:

 

But they hired Frank.

Carolina has a pretty strong defense and they may want to go with a ball control offense to pair with it, as a philosophy to compete in the AFC South.  Steichen strikes me as more of a wide open creative guy for winning games by scoring a lot of points.  Not to say that Philly does not have a good D, but Steichen has nothing to do with that.

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1 minute ago, DougDew said:

Carolina has a pretty strong defense and they may want to go with a ball control offense to pair with it, as a philosophy to compete in the AFC South.  Steichen strikes me as more of a wide open creative guy for winning games by scoring a lot of points.  Not to say that Philly does not have a good D, but Steichen has nothing to do with that.

They have a very good D.  If they win that will probably be the reason why.

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Things could not of turned out better if they get Steichen. Kevin Bowen at the beginning of this process kept questioning whether he would even take a interview because of the Sirriani antics when Reich got fired.

1 minute ago, richard pallo said:

They have a very good D.  If they win that will probably be the reason why.

 

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Just now, Colts1324 said:

There are 5 candidates left, right?

 

1.) R. Bisaccia

2. S. Steichen

3.) J. Saturday

4. A. Glenn

5.) R. Morris

 

Have any of these candidates been eliminated?

 

Just a hunch. Nothing more. But I would put Bieniemy in there too.

 

I have 6 possible candidates. Steichen is the favorite. Morris is a close second.

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1 hour ago, NewColtsFan said:


FWIW…..

 

I once said the same thing about both our former coordinators.   
 

I never thought Flus sounded like a HC and the same for Sirianni, who now has his team in the Super Bowl!   I didn’t think either would interview well.  
 

So I’m completely wrong x2!      :giveup:

 

 

PS:  Do you really think the Colts are media savvy?    What makes you think that?   Just asking?   

When I say they are media savvy, I mean they're into making their own videos, doing their own media.  The "With the next pick" series, and stuff like that.  Which says to me that part of their wish list for a HC is someone who can do well in front of the cameras as well as on the sidelines.

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39 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:


Glad that you still will be a fan.   
 

For me, I can’t imagine a worse look for a franchise.   To hold the biggest, longest coaching search in NFL history and have it end with Saturday as the winner?!?!?    The worst possible outcome.   It would have zero credibility.   It would get killed by local media and national media.   Irsay’s reputation, as checkered as it is,  would take an incredible beating, and rightfully so.   And don’t even get me started on Ballard.   I would think plenty of current Colts front office types would start looking for work elsewhere.   They likely won’t resign, but they’d start making calls and putting out feelers.   
 

For all those reasons, and more,  I seriously hope you’re wrong.  

If Ballard allows Saturday to be hired over his head and doesn't resign automatically, he will deserve whatever comes to him in the next year or so...

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2 minutes ago, stitches said:

If Ballard allows Saturday to be hired over his head and doesn't resign automatically, he will deserve whatever comes to him in the next year or so...

 

I'm guessing Ballard will rubber stamp any candidate Irsay agrees to, so that it's not Saturday.  If Irsay says yes to one candidate not named Saturday, that's who it is.

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2 minutes ago, #12. said:

 

I'm guessing Ballard will rubber stamp any candidate Irsay agrees to, so that it's not Saturday.  If Irsay says yes to one candidate not named Saturday, that's who it is.

 

What if Jim Irsay watched the Colts stumble and fumble in the last half of the season, including historic blown leads, and felt that Jeff Saturday would not be best as our next HC? Or what if he met with the dozen-plus candidates and realized how much talent is available out there, and saw how far ahead of Saturday they are?

 

Just asking why everyone is so convinced that Irsay is still clinging to Saturday as HC at this point. Rumor has it that Saturday was told he's out of the running a couple weeks ago...

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22 minutes ago, Colts1324 said:

There are 5 candidates left, right?

 

1.) R. Bisaccia

2. S. Steichen

3.) J. Saturday

4. A. Glenn

5.) R. Morris

 

Have any of these candidates been eliminated?

Don't forget B. Ventrone. Didn't get a second interview that we know about but neither did Kafka or Bienemy.

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1 minute ago, Superman said:

 

What if Jim Irsay watched the Colts stumble and fumble in the last half of the season, including historic blown leads, and felt that Jeff Saturday would not be best as our next HC? Or what if he met with the dozen-plus candidates and realized how much talent is available out there, and saw how far ahead of Saturday they are?

 

Just asking why everyone is so convinced that Irsay is still clinging to Saturday as HC at this point. Rumor has it that Saturday was told he's out of the running a couple weeks ago...

 

Hopefully that's true, but it still might have taken some convincing from Ballard, the media and the fans.

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4 minutes ago, BProland85 said:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/02/10/reports-mike-kafka-brian-callahan-informed-they-wont-be-hired-as-colts-coach/
 

This means it HAS to be Steichen right? If Irsay actually does the unthinkable and hires Saturday we riot. And I’m probably done watching this team if so. 

 

 If you don't like it then "get lost" and don't come back when they start winning. LOSER attitudes, who needs them!

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2 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

What if Jim Irsay watched the Colts stumble and fumble in the last half of the season, including historic blown leads, and felt that Jeff Saturday would not be best as our next HC? Or what if he met with the dozen-plus candidates and realized how much talent is available out there, and saw how far ahead of Saturday they are?

 

Just asking why everyone is so convinced that Irsay is still clinging to Saturday as HC at this point. Rumor has it that Saturday was told he's out of the running a couple weeks ago...

I still think they gave him the interviews as a sign of respect and thanks for him taking over and weathering the storm this year. It was a classy thing to do and also allows Jeff a voice to give Ballard and Irsay ideas for the future. Nothing wrong with bringing in someone in an interview just to see what they have to say. 

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2 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

What if Jim Irsay watched the Colts stumble and fumble in the last half of the season, including historic blown leads, and felt that Jeff Saturday would not be best as our next HC? Or what if he met with the dozen-plus candidates and realized how much talent is available out there, and saw how far ahead of Saturday they are?

 

Just asking why everyone is so convinced that Irsay is still clinging to Saturday as HC at this point. Rumor has it that Saturday was told he's out of the running a couple weeks ago...

Rumors are not actual confirmation. Just about evey candidate has been rumored to have inside track.

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1 hour ago, richard pallo said:

Both Glenn and Bisaccia have received rave reviews concerning their leadership attributes.  Morris too for that matter.  Steichen none that I have read about. 

Right. So for me, I guess I have to trust the Colts best judgment on the final choice.

A guy can be an offensive genius, but if he's a lousy leader, then he probably will not be good as a Head Coach. Likewise, if we get a guy with fantastic leadership and strong other intangibles, then he must recruit a top level  staff of offensive assistants.

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