danlhart87 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 I threw some trades in mine. 1. Bengals - Burrow 2. Redskins - Young 3. Dolphins - Tagovailoa 4. Giants - Wilfs 5. Lions - Simmons 6. Chargers - Herbert 7. Colts - Love 8. Cardinals - Jeudy 9. Jaguars - Okudah 10. Browns - Thomas Lions get 5 39 and 2021 2nd (Dolphins pick) Panthers get 13 75 and 2021 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Carolina is not moving down from 7 to 13 this year for our one plus our threes in 20 and 21. Not nearly enough. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Daytona Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 If this is the route Indy wants to go, it's gonna take that, plus #34 or #44 at least... Or this year's #13 @ 2021 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 I like it except fo #7, lol. But seriously, I like Okuda sliding a bit (unless he runs like a maniac tonight). Lions and Simmons sound great after yesterday. Only thing I’d say is that I think Becton has totally jumped past Thomas now... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indeee Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 5 hours ago, danlhart87 said: I threw some trades in mine. 1. Bengals - Burrow 2. Redskins - Young 3. Dolphins - Tagovailoa 4. Giants - Wilfs 5. Lions - Simmons 6. Chargers - Herbert 7. Colts - Love 8. Cardinals - Jeudy 9. Jaguars - Okudah 10. Browns - Thomas Lions get 5 39 and 2021 2nd (Dolphins pick) Panthers get 13 75 and 2021 3rd Yea, no way Colts move up. The Colts CANNOT give away valuable draft capitol now or in the future for 1 guy, they just can't. They won't. There are too many pieces needed on this team. If they were only just a QB away I might feel a little different, but they are not. This Love kid has got y'all drunk on the sauce. Honestly, if the Colts really wanted a QB in the draft, I seriously would wait and take Hurts. Dude, looked pretty decent at combine. I was surprised at how decent he looked and if the Colts were looking for a QB with MAD MONEY potential who won't break the bank financially then they will draft the QB from Princeton in the 7th, cause in a couple years that guy is going to be one heck of an accountant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 21 minutes ago, Indeee said: Yea, no way Colts move up. The Colts CANNOT give away valuable draft capitol now or in the future for 1 guy, they just can't. They won't. There are too many pieces needed on this team. If they were only just a QB away I might feel a little different, but they are not. This Love kid has got y'all drunk on the sauce. Honestly, if the Colts really wanted a QB in the draft, I seriously would wait and take Hurts. Dude, looked pretty decent at combine. I was surprised at how decent he looked and if the Colts were looking for a QB with MAD MONEY potential who won't break the bank financially then they will draft the QB from Princeton in the 7th, cause in a couple years that guy is going to be one heck of an accountant. Yea if love, herbert, tua,and burrow are gone, I'd trade back and take hurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 I said a while back there would be 5 QBs before pick 13, but it might only end up being 4 in the top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Four qbs will def go in top 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCurtis Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Stephen said: Four qbs will def go in top 10 I think that is very likely It also may push some excellent DTs or OTs toward our spot also..... I doubt he moves, especially if Kinlaw is parked there, but CB loves getting additional 2nds, he just might move back a bit..... In the 20s there will still be excellent WRs, Dev OTs like Jones, and some decent 3T I hope he just takes Kinlaw..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 3 will go before us for sure. I personally like Love too enough to trade up for him, but it's possible the NFL doesn't feel the same way, because he's somewhat of a project. I guess we'll see soon enough... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 31 minutes ago, Stephen said: Four qbs will def go in top 10 Yes (I'll temper that by saying top 12...LVR). Neither Eason or Fromm helped themselves at the combine, so it looks like just 4 will be gone before our pick. I think they still have pro-days but it won't move the needle much, IMO. Also, if GMS like or hate physical tests at the combine as much as the media does, Love has moved up solidly to the top 12 but Kinlaw and Derrick Brown...5.11 40....have both maybe slid to our spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacolts56 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Here's the Top 12 scenario I'm hoping for... and yes.... I'm admittedly biased towards a dominant DT in this draft and bringing in Rivers for a season or two. Some may question the Panthers taking Loverboy at #7.... but Cam Newton's health is still in question and their new head coach could very well want to gear things in a new direction at QB. If you disagree....have at it...its all part of the fun! 1. Bengals - Joe Burrow 2. Redskins - Chase Young 3. Lions - Jeff Okudah 4. Giants - Andrew Thomas 5. Dolphins - Tua Tagovailoa 6. Chargers - Justin Herbert 7. Panthers - Jordan Love 8. Cardinals - AJ Epenesa 9. Jaguars - Tristan Wirfs 10. Browns - Isaiah Simmons 11. Jets - Jedrick Wills 12. Raiders - Jerry Jeudy Welcome to the Colts.... Derrick Brown! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantBeStopped Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, pacolts56 said: Here's the Top 12 scenario I'm hoping for... and yes.... I'm admittedly biased towards a dominant DT in this draft and bringing in Rivers for a season or two. Some may question the Panthers taking Loverboy at #7.... but Cam Newton's health is still in question and their new head coach could very well want to gear things in a new direction at QB. If you disagree....have at it...its all part of the fun! 1. Bengals - Joe Burrow 2. Redskins - Chase Young 3. Lions - Jeff Okudah 4. Giants - Andrew Thomas 5. Dolphins - Tua Tagovailoa 6. Chargers - Justin Herbert 7. Panthers - Jordan Love 8. Cardinals - AJ Epenesa 9. Jaguars - Tristan Wirfs 10. Browns - Isaiah Simmons 11. Jets - Jedrick Wills 12. Raiders - Jerry Jeudy Welcome to the Colts.... Derrick Brown! Epenesa ran a 5+ sec 40. He's not going in the top 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 1. Bengals - Joe Burrow 2. Redskins - Chase Young 3. Dolphins(via Lions) - Tua Tagovailoa 4. Giants - Mekhi Becton 5. Lions - Jeffery Okudah 6. Chargers - Justin Herbert 7. Panthers - Isaiah Simmons 8. Cardinals - Jedrick Wills 9. Jaguars - Jerry Jeudy 10. Browns - Tristan Wirfs 11. Colts (via Jets) Jordan Love 12. Raiders - Jeremy Lamb 13. Jets (via Colts) - Andrew Thomas .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalseStart Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 1. Bengals - Joe Burrow QB 2. Redskins - Chase Young DE 3. Lions - Jeff Okudah CB 4. Giants - Jerry Jeudy WR 5. Dolphins - Tua Tagovailoa QB 6. Chargers - Justin Herbert QB 7. Panthers - Isaiah Simmons LB 8. Cardinals - CeeDee Lamb WR 9. Jaguars - Andrew Thomas OT 10. Browns - Tristan Wirfs OT 11. Jets - Jedrick Wills OT 12. Raiders - AJ Epenesa DE 13. Colts - Brown DT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlhart87 Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 If Love falls to 13 there's no way we are passing on him. AJ will fall to mid 20s or 2nd after bad 40. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WifiGuy Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, FalseStart said: 1. Bengals - Joe Burrow QB 2. Redskins - Chase Young DE 3. Lions - Jeff Okudah CB 4. Giants - Jerry Jeudy WR 5. Dolphins - Tua Tagovailoa QB 6. Chargers - Justin Herbert QB 7. Panthers - Isaiah Simmons LB 8. Cardinals - CeeDee Lamb WR 9. Jaguars - Andrew Thomas OT 10. Browns - Tristan Wirfs OT 11. Jets - Jedrick Wills OT 12. Raiders - AJ Epenesa DE 13. Colts - Brown DT I would love this! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indeee Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, stitches said: 1. Bengals - Joe Burrow 2. Redskins - Chase Young 3. Dolphins(via Lions) - Tua Tagovailoa 4. Giants - Mekhi Becton 5. Lions - Jeffery Okudah 6. Chargers - Justin Herbert 7. Panthers - Isaiah Simmons 8. Cardinals - Jedrick Wills 9. Jaguars - Jerry Jeudy 10. Browns - Tristan Wirfs 11. Colts (via Jets) Jordan Love 12. Raiders - Jeremy Lamb 13. Jets (via Colts) - Andrew Thomas .... 1. Bengals - Joe Burrow 2. Dolphins(via Skins) - Tua Tagovailoa 3. Lions - Jordan Love 4. Giants - Chase Young 5. Redskins - Jeffery Okudah (via Dolphins) Skins get Phins 5th, 26th, and 56th(Saints) 6. Chargers - Justin Herbert 7. Panthers - Derek Brown 8. Cardinals - CeeDee Lamb 9. Raiders(via Jags) - Jerry Jeudy 10. Browns - Isaiah Simmons 11. Jets - Henry Ruggs lll 12. Jags - Andrew Thomas or Becton (via Raiders) Jags get 12, 19, and 81 13. Colts - Javon Kinlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hammonds Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 You beat me to it @danlhart87! I was thinking of posting the same thing. Was gonna wait until today's workouts by the DB's, to see if what Okudah does changes his projection at all. 1. Bengals - Joe Burrow, QB, LSU 2. Redskins - Chase Young, DE, Ohio St 3. Lions - Jeffrey Okudah, CB, Ohio St 4. Giants - Isaiah Simmons, LB, Clemson 5. Dolphins - Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama 6. Chargers - Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon 7. Panthers - Derrick Brown, DT, Auburn 8. Cardinals - Tristan Wirfs, OT, Iowa 9. Jaguars - Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia 10. Browns - Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville 11. Jets - Jerry Jeudy, WR, Alabama 12. Raiders - Henry Ruggs III, WR, Alabama 13. Colts - CeeDee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZColt11 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 I'll give it a stab with no trades. 1)Bengals - Burrow 2)Skins - Young 3)Lions - Simmons 4)Giants - Wirfs 5) Dolphins - Tua 6)Chargers - Herbert 7)Panthers - Brown 8)Cardinals - Lamb 9)Jaguars - Becton 10)Browns - Thomas 11)Jets - Jeudy 12)Raiders - Ruggs 13)Colts - Kinlaw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ztboiler Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 9 hours ago, danlhart87 said: I threw some trades in mine. 1. Bengals - Burrow 2. Redskins - Young 3. Dolphins - Tagovailoa 4. Giants - Wilfs 5. Lions - Simmons 6. Chargers - Herbert 7. Colts - Love 8. Cardinals - Jeudy 9. Jaguars - Okudah 10. Browns - Thomas Lions get 5 39 and 2021 2nd (Dolphins pick) Panthers get 13 75 and 2021 3rd Like your concept but think that the only way Love gets drafted at 7 is if the Panthers take him there. Reason being...the teams that would trade up to 7 are at 12 and lower...and the talent drop off is too dramatic below 11, even with 4 QBs selected ahead. If the Panthers want Love, you can't make a deal regardless, but if not, they'll be forced to make their pick because nobody will pay them what it's worth to go back that far in this particular draft. The Bills paid 53 and 56 to move from 12 to 7 in 2018. The Panthers will likely want more than that given the premium talent they'll pass on to fall back. The same is true for the Cardinals and Jags...so the first real trade up possibility for the Colts is the Browns at 10. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoltan Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 1. Burrow 2. Young 3.Okudah 4. Wills 5. Tua 6. Herbert 7.Brown 8. Wirfs 9. Simmons 10. Becton 11. Andrew Thomas 12. Jeudy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restinpeacesweetchloe Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 If no one trades up to that 8-12 position for a QB and raiders don’t take one Love or Herbert will be there at 13. But I could see us trading up just a few spots to make sure that doesn’t happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlhart87 Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 48 minutes ago, Zoltan said: 1. Burrow 2. Young 3.Okudah 4. Wills 5. Tua 6. Herbert 7.Brown 8. Wirfs 9. Simmons 10. Becton 11. Andrew Thomas 12. Jeudy You take Love there all day everyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCurtis Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 4 hours ago, stitches said: 3 will go before us for sure. I personally like Love too enough to trade up for him, but it's possible the NFL doesn't feel the same way, because he's somewhat of a project. I guess we'll see soon enough... Stitchman You get what I said before and what I still say Love was going to test very well He has all the needed skills I think it’s a high likelihood that he is gone before our pick I guess I am coming around to trading up...... but for a better prospect.... like Tua I see Tua and Burrows as blue chip prospects I don’t see a blue chip in Love...... If I am giving up large capitol...... it’s for a safer pick I see the potential in Love....... I am ok with him being taken at 13..... IF he is the guy the front office is in love with 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlhart87 Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 minute ago, MikeCurtis said: Stitchman You get what I said before and what I still say Love was going to test very well He has all the needed skills I think it’s a high likelihood that he is gone before our pick I guess I am coming around to trading up...... but for a better prospect.... like Tua I see Tua and Burrows as blue chip prospects I don’t see a blue chip in Love...... If I am giving up large capitol...... it’s for a safer pick I see the potential in Love....... I am ok with him being taken at 13..... IF he is the guy the front office is in love with I see what you did there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, MikeCurtis said: Stitchman You get what I said before and what I still say Love was going to test very well He has all the needed skills I think it’s a high likelihood that he is gone before our pick I guess I am coming around to trading up...... but for a better prospect.... like Tua I see Tua and Burrows as blue chip prospects I don’t see a blue chip in Love...... If I am giving up large capitol...... it’s for a safer pick I see the potential in Love....... I am ok with him being taken at 13..... IF he is the guy the front office is in love with Yeah, that's understandable. Contrary to what people seem to think, I absolutely understand why some might not be on board with Love. Tua(if healthy?) and Burrow are no. 1 in the draft type of prospects and I don't begrudge anyone for having them over Love... The thing I've been thinking about trading up for QBs is - at the end of the day, if you love the guy and believe in him and if he pans out, there really isn't price too high to pay for him. If he pans out it will be worth it, and if he doesn't it won't be worth it, no matter if you traded up for him or not. So... the biggest question with QBs is really the evaluation and the risk you are willing to take with the prospect(and all of them have some risk factor, even Burrow, although lower with him)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarGhost21 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 I’m sorry, but if I were to even consider trading up, it would be for Love. Don’t get me wrong, I like the guy, but he is nowhere near a top 10 talent, and is barely a 1st round caliber player. In this draft, I have him ranked 37th overall, drafting him at 7 while giving up so much capital would be a massive mistake and really hurt the team overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosejawcolt Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Indeee said: 1. Bengals - Joe Burrow 2. Dolphins(via Skins) - Tua Tagovailoa 3. Lions - Jordan Love 4. Giants - Chase Young 5. Redskins - Jeffery Okudah (via Dolphins) Skins get Phins 5th, 26th, and 56th(Saints) 6. Chargers - Justin Herbert 7. Panthers - Derek Brown 8. Cardinals - CeeDee Lamb 9. Raiders(via Jags) - Jerry Jeudy 10. Browns - Isaiah Simmons 11. Jets - Henry Ruggs lll 12. Jags - Andrew Thomas or Becton (via Raiders) Jags get 12, 19, and 81 13. Colts - Javon Kinlaw I think Kinlaws draft value maybe sliding based on his knees 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalseStart Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Ballard is going to select BPA at a position of NEED... Not a prospect in round one... Round two... Maybe he takes a little more risk and goes for a guy like love. I think pick 13 going to be a guy with the least risk. If your job/credibility is on the line... you would go with the BPA (Blue chip) guy over a prospect every time. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 56 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said: I think Kinlaws draft value maybe sliding based on his knees I don't want kinlaw. Rather draft someone without knee injuries and someone who doesn't play at ohio state 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdubu Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 2 hours ago, MikeCurtis said: Stitchman You get what I said before and what I still say Love was going to test very well He has all the needed skills I think it’s a high likelihood that he is gone before our pick I guess I am coming around to trading up...... but for a better prospect.... like Tua I see Tua and Burrows as blue chip prospects I don’t see a blue chip in Love...... If I am giving up large capitol...... it’s for a safer pick I see the potential in Love....... I am ok with him being taken at 13..... IF he is the guy the front office is in love with You list Burroughs and Tua and then say safe pick. Tua by no means is a safe pick because he has such a medicals history. Everything else, Tua has shown he is elite but that list of medical history is rough. It’s almost like saying Loves medical history is spotless but his hands are small and could be fumble prone. Both are definitely concerns, which one is less when picking? All of these guys give you a reason to pause in moving up. I’m a big proponent of just staying put. 1 hour ago, Moosejawcolt said: I think Kinlaws draft value maybe sliding based on his knees I’m very concerned about the knee for sure if I’m CB. Are there any comparisons for any other DT’s with tendinitis and how it affected their career at an early stage? Quite honestly if Brown is off the board and we really have medical concern with Kinlaw, I’d almost be as happy to take the best OT left and pick the remaining best DT at 34 and TE/WR 44. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCurtis Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jdubu said: I’d almost be as happy to take the best OT left and pick the remaining best DT at 34 and TE/WR 44. I would agree with that We will need an LT VERY soon...... if its the right person, they could slide in at RG or RT, until cantstanzya retires........ If RT, move Smith inside On Tua Maybe I should have said.... if the medicals turn out positive (so far so good) Watching the talking heads the past 48 hours, the love for Tua remains very high There are a few folks thinking (rumorville) that there may be people trading up for Tua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacolts56 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 6 hours ago, CantBeStopped said: Epenesa ran a 5+ sec 40. He's not going in the top 10 You're right, that is not good.... I hadn't seen his combine numbers. I'm not sure how badly the 40 hurts a DE but his 10yd split wasn't so hot either. So even though Epenesa was very productive at Iowa... it is the #8 pick, and AZ could and probably should snag Chaisson instead..... or even Cee Dee Lamb, and make Kyler Murray's day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 7 hours ago, MikeCurtis said: I think that is very likely It also may push some excellent DTs or OTs toward our spot also..... I doubt he moves, especially if Kinlaw is parked there, but CB loves getting additional 2nds, he just might move back a bit..... In the 20s there will still be excellent WRs, Dev OTs like Jones, and some decent 3T I hope he just takes Kinlaw..... Remember... to get the extra two this year, we had to move back 23 spots. From pick 26 to pick 49. I don’t see Ballard moving back that far hoping to get a future two. Not this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard pallo Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 hour ago, FalseStart said: Ballard is going to select BPA at a position of NEED... Not a prospect in round one... Round two... Maybe he takes a little more risk and goes for a guy like love. I think pick 13 going to be a guy with the least risk. If your job/credibility is on the line... you would go with the BPA (Blue chip) guy over a prospect every time. Especially if we sign Rivers or acquire a veteran starting QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacolts56 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Moosejawcolt said: I think Kinlaws draft value maybe sliding based on his knees Yep.... if he's not 100% medically, we can't risk the #13 pick on him. And that goes for Tua as well....I simply wouldn't draft him following the hip injury.... healed or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycolt1 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 8 hours ago, Stephen said: Yea if love, herbert, tua,and burrow are gone, I'd trade back and take hurts I wouldn't trade back at all. If those QBs are taken ahead of our pick there will be some seriously talented players at #13. A great pass rusher or a top notch WR will be there at #13. BPA may be the way to go in this draft if a QB can't be had at #13. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BProland85 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 7 hours ago, FalseStart said: 1. Bengals - Joe Burrow QB 2. Redskins - Chase Young DE 3. Lions - Jeff Okudah CB 4. Giants - Jerry Jeudy WR 5. Dolphins - Tua Tagovailoa QB 6. Chargers - Justin Herbert QB 7. Panthers - Isaiah Simmons LB 8. Cardinals - CeeDee Lamb WR 9. Jaguars - Andrew Thomas OT 10. Browns - Tristan Wirfs OT 11. Jets - Jedrick Wills OT 12. Raiders - AJ Epenesa DE 13. Colts - Brown DT I REALLY hope Brown makes it to us at 13 and we take him. I’m not a fan of going QB round 1 unless we trade back a little and still are able to get Love. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalseStart Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, BProland85 said: I REALLY hope Brown makes it to us at 13 and we take him. I’m not a fan of going QB round 1 unless we trade back a little and still are able to get Love. His 5.11s forty only helps our cause...however slight it is I’ll take it... I can see Raiders going Ruggs III instead of Epenesa...too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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