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1 hour ago, csmopar said:

Yep, only post anywhere about it. If you look on that dudes page, you'll see the post where some random poster brought it up about 10 minutes prior to Jay tweeting about it. So his "source" is some random twitter dude.

 

Sadly, all those conspiracies you posted about, have been mentioned on this forum

 

and it was reported that he reached out to Drew Brees on this 

 

Look, if you dont wanna believe the report then that thats fine. But Stephen Holder is reporting the same thing and he covers the Colts every day for the Star. These people aren't pulling this stuff out of there backside.

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Look, if you dont wanna believe the report then that thats fine. But Stephen Holder is reporting the same thing and he covers the Colts every day for the Star. These people aren't pulling this stuff out of there backside.

Link to holder's reports? "Look", It's not that I don't believe it, it's the fact that as of this moment, I've yet to see a single one of the actual Colt beat reporters mention this at all. Other than to quote Jay's tweet. Does that mean it's false? No, but it is strange that it's a national reporter breaking this and not a local one. Keep in mind, Jay is also the same one (one of many) who kept tweeting all last January that Chuck was fired. 

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15 minutes ago, indy1888 said:

 

Look, if you dont wanna believe the report then that thats fine. But Stephen Holder is reporting the same thing and he covers the Colts every day for the Star. These people aren't pulling this stuff out of there backside.

 

OK, if Holder is saying the cortisone injection didn't work, and Luck can't practice because of lingering pain, then yes.  A follow up is in order.  Let's see what is uncovered, and any absence in practice ( DNP ) will be telling.  With each week he is delayed returning to team drills, his chances to return this season dwindle very quickly.

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16 minutes ago, csmopar said:

Link to holder's reports? "Look", It's not that I don't believe it, it's the fact that as of this moment, I've yet to see a single one of the actual Colt beat reporters mention this at all. Other than to quote Jay's tweet. Does that mean it's false? No, but it is strange that it's a national reporter breaking this and not a local one. Keep in mind, Jay is also the same one (one of many) who kept tweeting all last January that Chuck was fired. 

 

It's not strange at all. The National guys always get the scoop before the local boys. Been that way for years. It was the National guys who reported that Luck was getting ready to start practicing earlier this year. Plus if the Colts beat writers didn't believe this report they probably wouldn't have re tweeted it to begin with. And the Holder article is on the Indy Star website and facebook page and he has a link to it on his twitter page.

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28 minutes ago, Coltsfan0112 said:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21219933/indianapolis-colts-quarterback-andrew-luck-seeks-more-opinions-surgically-repaired-shoulder

 

Here is some more information Mortenson reported. 

 

There are things there that are not clear.  If Andrew wants second opinions because he doesn't feel he is progressing as fast as he should, that is one thing.  But if he had an injection for pain and it is not working, then that is a potentially big deal to me.  If he is seeing a local doctor, and maybe having a follow up MRI, then that isn't nearly as foreboding as him flying out of state to see one of those 'specialists' that is being reported. That article says the team feels that it isn't that serious-

"... proceeded to have a good week of rehab, only to experience another setback, which the team does not believe is serious  "

 

But I want other sources and information before I'll side with them on that.

 

So I'm still not clear if this is a 'Big Deal' yet, or not.  I'm not in panic mode, but I am concerned with what little has been floated out there; vague as it is.

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47 minutes ago, indy1888 said:

 

Look, if you dont wanna believe the report then that thats fine. But Stephen Holder is reporting the same thing and he covers the Colts every day for the Star. These people aren't pulling this stuff out of there backside.

 

Preach on brother. 

 

It just amazes me the length that some people will go through to not accept the truths about this football team.

 

I can accept what is happening with this team, but it is exhausting trying to talk to others who are unable to.  

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1 hour ago, Coltsfan0112 said:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21219933/indianapolis-colts-quarterback-andrew-luck-seeks-more-opinions-surgically-repaired-shoulder

 

Here is some more information Mortenson reported. 

That's rather disturbing....if Luck has to have another surgery this offseason I'm starting a petition to bring Peyton out of retirement bring back Howard Mudd and Clyde Christianson and the bunch....can't hurt. Heck maybe even Reggie and Dwight can reunite...at least we would know we will be entertained...maybe even sell a few tickets...I think we would have enough cap space to convinced him!

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15 hours ago, Dark Superman said:

I wouldn't be surprised if the Colts were just blowing smoke all season, but in reality, they never intended for Luck to play this season.

There's no way Jim Irsay is sending his $140 million dollar QB out there with that line this season.

He's not risking his franchise QB by having him play in a couple of meaningful games.

Sorry. Luck was never playing in 17'

 

Sorry to ask the question, but if Luck is so banged up, had a surgery and still he´s not ready to play or practice, and he´s paid $140 million for it, could we then see Irsay do the unthinkable and trade him to give Ballard full controll over this team, and rebuild the * out of this team from scratch? 

 

I would love to see Luck play very soon, but If this chatter is true, and his injurie is more serious than we could imagine, wouldn't it be wise to say... good damm xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and start all over? 

 

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17 hours ago, Mr Coffee said:

The report said he went BACK to a specialist because he was feeling unexpected pain.  The sky may not be falling, but this wasn't expected.  

Funny how you quote my one word comment in agreement to a much more detailed one?  Anyway, Luck has been seeing Specialists since the beginning...you don't mess around with a million dollar shoulder.  I am hoping for the best :).

 

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7 hours ago, indy1888 said:

 

It's not strange at all. The National guys always get the scoop before the local boys. Been that way for years. It was the National guys who reported that Luck was getting ready to start practicing earlier this year. Plus if the Colts beat writers didn't believe this report they probably wouldn't have re tweeted it to begin with. And the Holder article is on the Indy Star website and facebook page and he has a link to it on his twitter page.

I read Holders article.... no mention anywhere of Luck going to IR, which is what's Jay tweeted.  So again, until something officially comes out, I'm not gonna freak out about Luck and the future

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Preach on brother. 

 

It just amazes me the length that some people will go through to not accept the truths about this football team.

 

I can accept what is happening with this team, but it is exhausting trying to talk to others who are unable to.  

It's not about "not accepting the truths". I just want to see an actual report, not a tweet, before I go into panic mode. The tweet that started all this claimed the Colts were putting Luck on IR and they may very well do so, however, at this time, the only thing saying that is a TWEET. Doesn't mean it's right, doesn't mean it's wrong. But until it's backed up with credible information, it is still just a twitter rumor. No different than all the tweets about Pagano being fired last year and Irsay having worked a deal with a big name coach, not a single tweet of those came true. 

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13 hours ago, TheRustonRifle#7 said:

Funny how you quote my one word comment in agreement to a much more detailed one?  Anyway, Luck has been seeing Specialists since the beginning...you don't mess around with a million dollar shoulder.  I am hoping for the best :).

 

I'm lost" sorry.  Either way, yeah, we are all hoping for the best.  I guess the point I was trying to make is that I don't think that this crap was expected, at least not from Irsay.  I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt that he didn't blatantly lie to us to sell season tickets.  

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15 hours ago, GusFring said:

If this surgery is really 9-12 months recovery, then why on earth did they ever say he was going to play this season?

 

Because they have tickets to sell and outside of the Manning retirement jersey game and the Steelers game (which is mostly Steelers fans) they have 6 other games to sell the public.

 

If Luck is Grant Hill 2.0 then it means he will have a long career elsewhere. 

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I'm lost" sorry.  Either way, yeah, we are all hoping for the best.  I guess the point I was trying to make is that I don't think that this crap was expected, at least not from Irsay.  I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt that he didn't blatantly lie to us to sell season tickets.  

Conspiracy theories aside...I just want Luck back 100%....curious to see what direction this team takes moving forward.

 

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Conspiracy theories aside...I just want Luck back 100%....curious to see what direction this team takes moving forward.

 

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Right.  Tomorrow could be a great year, who knows?  I'm trying to be optimistic about next year.  Every year there's a team that comes off of a terrible year and makes the playoffs or even Super Bowl next year.  Anything can happen.  

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On 10/29/2017 at 2:48 PM, indy1888 said:

Jay Glazer reported that Luck felt pain after throwing a couple weeks ago and he is now visiting with specialists trying to find answers as to why. If they are unable to get answers the team plans to shut down Luck. Sounds a little more serious then just your normal soreness.  Bob Kravitz has also retweeted the information. A similar topic was locked earlier due to supposedly no sources confirming this.  

If he's not throwing and totally working out without pain at OTAs in 2018. It probably means his career is over. 

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16 hours ago, GusFring said:

If this surgery is really 9-12 months recovery, then why on earth did they ever say he was going to play this season? Seems like he shouldnt even start throwing till December or January. And just hopefully be ready for next season.  

 

I read somewhere that this surgery was a 9 month to 12 month recovery time. So maybe he should not have been cleared to practice maybe he threw too early in the recovery. 

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19 hours ago, GusFring said:

If this surgery is really 9-12 months recovery, then why on earth did they ever say he was going to play this season? Seems like he shouldnt even start throwing till December or January. And just hopefully be ready for next season.  

 

 

3 hours ago, superrep1967 said:

I read somewhere that this surgery was a 9 month to 12 month recovery time. So maybe he should not have been cleared to practice maybe he threw too early in the recovery. 

 

 

Different people recover at different rates.  t's not about toughness or how macho one is either.  That is why there are ranges.  One thing I've noticed about Andrew, he seems to be on the high end of the recovery range for any ailment.  Whether that is healing speed, or cautious medical team (or a combination) the result is the same. 

 

While we wait for Luck to (possibly) return to practice, this latest setback has reset the clock.  That means at least 2 weeks limited practice, and 3 to 4 weeks full practice before he may be NFL game day ready to take the field.  IOW, his time for 2017 is quickly running out...

 

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On 10/30/2017 at 4:30 AM, zibby43 said:

DQ thinks Luck's career over.

 

Not endorsing his expert (ha ha, sarcasm) opinion, just sharing.

 

 

This is contradictory really.  DQ says his career is likely over, then he starts talking about how Luck should demand better protection and then the organization will turn around.  Sooooooo he is saying he is possibly done, but then essentially says he will be back and be his old self and needs to demand protection. 

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1 hour ago, Valpo2004 said:

Really worried about his career at this point.  

 

It's pretty clear he's not playing this season.  Now we have to wonder if he'll play next season.

 

Exactly.  I feel the same way about Geathers also.  I have a feeling he won't be resuming his career (Geathers).

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