Chester Rogers

[Smonroe]

He was in with the ones, played the entire game and was even used as a returner.  He has to be the leading candidate for making the team out of that group of WRs.   

 

Did he have a drop?  I was at the game but couldn't tell if it was a drop or bad pass. 

 

 

[twfish]

I beleive he "dropped" the diving catch. It will be between him and smith or maybe both

[BlueShoe]

I am pretty sure he is making the team. Have the WR's ranked as so:

 

Wide Receivers
1	13	T.Y. Hilton	WR	Florida International	5'9"	180
2	10	Donte Moncrief	WR	Mississippi	6'2"	222
3	15	Phillip Dorsett	WR	Miami	5'10"	185
4	11	Quan Bray	WR	Auburn	5'10"	182
5	3	Chester Rogers	WR	Grambling State	6'1"	180
6	5	Tevaun Smith	WR	Iowa	6'0"	205
7	8	Marcus Leak	WR	Maryland	6'0"	210
8	14	Joshua Stangby	WR	Ottawa (Kans.)	5'10"	185
9	2	MeKale McKay	WR	Cincinnati	6'3"	204
10	6	Daniel Anthrop	WR	Purdue	6'0"	193
11	9	Andrew Opoku	WR	Delaware	6'4"	215

[RockThatBlue]

Its hard to believe hes a rookie. He looks like a 5 year vet out there. Makes little to no mistakes, a pretty good route runner, drops pretty much nothing.  I would be shocked if he doesn't make the team.

[GoColts8818]

There is probably one if not two jobs to be won at WR depending on if the Colts expect Bray to be more than a returner or not you have to think Rogers is probably the leader for that job at this point.

[krunk]

He reminds me of Griff Whalen with his hands.  Guy catches everything, and he's got much more speed than Whalen. 

[NorthernBlue]

At this point, Rodgers would REALLY have to stink it up in the last two games if he is to get cut. He looks really fluid out there, and can very easily make a guy miss (as evidenced by his TD vs the Bills). Maybe he'll come away with the 4th WR spot by the start of the season. Who knows. He certainly has a great shot.

[Carlos Danger]

Just now, krunk said:

He reminds me of Griff Whalen with his hands.  Guy catches everything, and he's got much more speed than Whalen. 

Crazy dude, you just stole the words I was writing.. Had to erase "souped up Griff Whalen" to quote you. 

 

I also think that Smith looks solid and dependable. He doesn't move like Rogers, but he has good hands and plays like he's been there before. What I like about Smith is that he has the potential to give the Colts another dangerous red zone threat and we might need that more than a big-play guy, considering the speed we have at WR1-3. 

I give Rogers the edge right now, but both of these guys are making it difficult to cut it down to 5. Maybe Bray stays on as a return specialist and we keep both, but I'm not sure either will stay on the PS for very long before getting waiver-signed. 

[krunk]

4 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said:

Crazy dude, you just stole the words I was writing.. Had to erase "souped up Griff Whalen" to quote you. 

 

I also think that Smith looks solid and dependable. He doesn't move like Rogers, but he has good hands and plays like he's been there before. What I like about Smith is that he has the potential to give the Colts another dangerous red zone threat and we might need that more than a big-play guy, considering the speed we have at WR1-3. 

I give Rogers the edge right now, but both of these guys are making it difficult to cut it down to 5. Maybe Bray stays on as a return specialist and we keep both, but I'm not sure either will stay on the PS for very long before getting waiver-signed. 

I think Tevaun Smith is a lesser version of Moncrief if you ask me.  Just my own opinion of course. It's somewhat possible that we could keep 6 WRs all on the regular roster.    I think Bray is going to stick, and so will Rogers.  I guess you could cut Smith and hope for the PS, but I probably would put him on the roster maybe.  I think he's got some speed and talent.  We'll see....

[Smonroe]

3 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said:

Crazy dude, you just stole the words I was writing.. Had to erase "souped up Griff Whalen" to quote you. 

 

I also think that Smith looks solid and dependable. He doesn't move like Rogers, but he has good hands and plays like he's been there before. What I like about Smith is that he has the potential to give the Colts another dangerous red zone threat and we might need that more than a big-play guy, considering the speed we have at WR1-3. 

I give Rogers the edge right now, but both of these guys are making it difficult to cut it down to 5. Maybe Bray stays on as a return specialist and we keep both, but I'm not sure either will stay on the PS for very long before getting waiver-signed. 

 

Good point, Smith looks ...dependable.  I doubt we keep two rookie WRs but IMHO both are better receivers than Bray.  I guess the question is - how important is a KR man now?   Rogers and Smith can both field punts.  

[BlueShoe]

1 minute ago, Smonroe said:

 

Good point, Smith looks ...dependable.  I doubt we keep two rookie WRs but IMHO both are better receivers than Bray.  I guess the question is - how important is a KR man now?   Rogers and Smith can both field punts.  

 

From what I have seen so far; I would make Rogers would be our punt returner and Ferguson our kick returner. 

[Smonroe]

1 minute ago, BlueShoe said:

 

From what I have seen so far; I would make Rogers would be our punt returner and Ferguson our kick returner. 

 

I'm not sure Ferguson makes the team.  Williams could end up beating him out.  

 

But I'm a proponent of having a RB return KOs if they're short of the goal line.  They're more used to taking hits than WRs.   

 

Take a knee every time it's long.

[BlueShoe]

8 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

 

I'm not sure Ferguson makes the team.  Williams could end up beating him out.  

 

But I'm a proponent of having a RB return KOs if they're short of the goal line.  They're more used to taking hits than WRs.   

 

Take a knee every time it's long.

 

I think people are getting ahead of themselves with thinking Williams will make the team over Ferguson. Anything is possible, and I liked what I have seen from Williams. He reminds me of a young Dominic Rhodes. 

 

There is a lot of dust yet to settle. 

 

Our offensive line depth is MILES above anything we have had for the past decade. So our backup skill position players are looking much better than they have in the past. The depth on the offensive and defensive lines are making us competitive in the preseason for the first time in a very long time. Second and third string quarterbacks have longer to throw the ball, and running backs have holes to run through.

[Everyone]

44 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

There is probably one if not two jobs to be won at WR depending on if the Colts expect Bray to be more than a returner or not you have to think Rogers is probably the leader for that job at this point.

They could wind up keeping 6 WRs and i'm fine with that. T.Y. Crief, Dorsett, Rogers, Smith and Bray.

[MacDee1975]

52 minutes ago, RockThatBlue said:

Its hard to believe hes a rookie. He looks like a 5 year vet out there. Makes little to no mistakes, a pretty good route runner, drops pretty much nothing.  I would be shocked if he doesn't make the team.

 

One wonders, then, why he wasn't drafted by anyone?

[krunk]

Just because you're not drafted doesn't mean there is not talent there.  The thing to me is the draft(years ago) used to have about 14 or more rounds if I remember correctly so there used to be way more room for guys like Smith and Rogers to get drafted by a team.  Once everything got condensed down to 7 rounds that tightens the amt of prospects a team can consider so more people go undrafted.  It's not always because they don't have talent.

[RockThatBlue]

11 minutes ago, MacDee1975 said:

 

One wonders, then, why he wasn't drafted by anyone?

Playing at a small school probably did him no favors I'm sure.

[RockThatBlue]

4 minutes ago, krunk said:

Just because you're not drafted doesn't mean there is not talent there.  The thing to me is the draft(years ago) used to have about 14 or more rounds if I remember correctly so there used to be way more room for guys like Smith and Rogers to get drafted by a team.  Once everything got condensed down to 7 rounds that tightens the amt of prospects a team can consider so more people go undrafted.  It's not always because they don't have talent.

If I recall right Doug Baldwin was a UDFA. Hes turned out pretty good I'd say.

[Gavin]

Rogers makes the team. After I expect either Mckay or Smith to make the team to give added size potentially in the future. In mean time they get sent to PS to develop. Bray

 

1.Hilton

2.Moncrief

3.Dorsett

4.Bray

5.Rogers

 

Personally I'd like to add another long tall playmaker at wr and have Hilton and Dorsett be in the slots against 3-4 heavy oriented teams and use 10 Personnel. I wouldn't make it a staple of the offense necessarily but just a way of getting a LB from opposing defense off the field and to throw another wrinkle in

[GoColts8818]

37 minutes ago, MacDee1975 said:

 

One wonders, then, why he wasn't drafted by anyone?

How'd Brady get drafted in the sixth round?  The NFL draft is anything but an exact science guys slip through the cracks every year.  

 

With that said I don't think any of our starters are all that worried about losing jobs at WR but he might fill out the roster. 

[Dark Superman]

I really like this Rogers kid. I'm hoping the Colts don't sign a veteran and just roll with this kid. I didn't like our depth at receiver at first, but with Bray coming around and Rogers showing some potential, I feel pretty solid about it now.

[akcolt]

19 hours ago, krunk said:

He reminds me of Griff Whalen with his hands.  Guy catches everything, and he's got much more speed than Whalen. 

He was back as the PR just as I thought he'd be. He's the only option besides Bray that I see. You can't just stick someone back at PR. It is starting to look like the 5th spot could be between Smith and Bray. I'm not so sure Bray's return duties lock him on the roster. 

 

I am a big fan of Smith love the size and speed. I hope we don't lose him on the PS or to the CFL. I know he was taken in the 1st round of the CFL draft not sure what that means as far as money goes 

[COLTS449]

I could see us rolling with 6 wide outs. I'm pretty sure we've done it before. Not too long ago actually. But on point. Chester Rogers WILL make the team. I absolutely love this kid, and I know its only preseason but maybe.......Maybe we found a gem in Rogers. Not only do I think he'll make the team, but I think he'll end up surpassing Bray as the 4th receiver and see some snaps. I'd like to see him put up a 200-300 yards, and 3-4 TD's. I want to keep McKay because I think he can develop into a really good receiver. He's raw, but the potential is there. We should be able to stash him on the PS this year and see what he can do next year, after a full year of development. I'd like to see Opoku kept on the PS as well. But I'm guessing our receiving corps will end up looking like this.....

 

TY Hilton

Dontae Moncrief

Phillip Dorsett

Chester Rogers

Quan Bray

Tevaun Smith

 

P.S.

MeKale McKay

Andrew Opoku

[Douzer]

Rogers looks really talented, but really raw. He gets open, but he plays out of balance, has poor field awareness, poor situational awareness, and makes poor decisions with the ball. He's hyper, not in control of his feet or his focus and is a mess once he gets the ball. Smith on the other hand gets open, plays in control and is much more polished. I find it too hard to put Rogers ahead of Smith.

[crazycolt1]

19 minutes ago, Douzer said:

Rogers looks really talented, but really raw. He gets open, but he plays out of balance, has poor field awareness, poor situational awareness, and makes poor decisions with the ball. He's hyper, not in control of his feet or his focus and is a mess once he gets the ball. Smith on the other hand gets open, plays in control and is much more polished. I find it too hard to put Rogers ahead of Smith.

Like most rookies do?

[Douzer]

14 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

Like most rookies do?

They're both rookies, one just trips over his own feet.

[twfish]

Things are about to get real interesting the next 2 games for the WR's. The three it's between is Chester Rogers, Tevin Smith, and Mekale Mckay. If Mekale doesn't show anything than I beleive he's out of the race for this year's 53. I want to compare Rogers to whalen but that's almost an easy out, aside from there hands I don't think they have many similarities. Griff was a chain mover with crisp almost ideal route running. So far Rogers hasn't shown as much there but he has the ability to really stretch the field and make guys miss and turn it on. As @krunk has stated you don't do that we'll at the college level not to be special. I think he's an excellent slot guy. Tevaun Smith you can compare a little closer to Moncreif but you still really cant. Height is similar and speed but Moncreif has 20+/- pounds on smith. Smith is more of an outside guy. I would really love to see those 2 used in the red zone next game. I'm having a hard time picking one over the other.

[akcolt]

1 hour ago, COLTS449 said:

I could see us rolling with 6 wide outs. I'm pretty sure we've done it before. Not too long ago actually. But on point. Chester Rogers WILL make the team. I absolutely love this kid, and I know its only preseason but maybe.......Maybe we found a gem in Rogers. Not only do I think he'll make the team, but I think he'll end up surpassing Bray as the 4th receiver and see some snaps. I'd like to see him put up a 200-300 yards, and 3-4 TD's. I want to keep McKay because I think he can develop into a really good receiver. He's raw, but the potential is there. We should be able to stash him on the PS this year and see what he can do next year, after a full year of development. I'd like to see Opoku kept on the PS as well. But I'm guessing our receiving corps will end up looking like this.....

 

TY Hilton

Dontae Moncrief

Phillip Dorsett

Chester Rogers

Quan Bray

Tevaun Smith

 

P.S.

MeKale McKay

Andrew Opoku

I like the 6 you have and would be pleased if it worked out that way. I would go Smith over Rogers if I had to pick one. I hope we just keep both. 

 

I would not forget about Markus Leak when talking about the PS. He's a guy I had as a sleeper before camp. He's another big strong kid with good hands. I was hearing his name before he was injured. Obliviously he needs to get back on the field like now 

 

[Smonroe]

3 hours ago, Douzer said:

Rogers looks really talented, but really raw. He gets open, but he plays out of balance, has poor field awareness, poor situational awareness, and makes poor decisions with the ball. He's hyper, not in control of his feet or his focus and is a mess once he gets the ball. Smith on the other hand gets open, plays in control and is much more polished. I find it too hard to put Rogers ahead of Smith.

 

I was at the game and made a point of watching him on every play.  I also just watched the replay.  He tripped trying to make a cut one time.  Other than that, I didn't see the "mess".  

 

Perhaps you could point out what plays gave you that opinion?

[WoolMagnet]

Is anyone concerned that our receivers are a little "smallish"?

other than Moncrief of course.  I love the speed but will be interested to see them against aggressive, physical corners. Motion could help i guess

 

good hands and shorter is better than taller player drops i guess.

[RockThatBlue]

35 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

 

I was at the game and made a point of watching him on every play.  I also just watched the replay.  He tripped trying to make a cut one time.  Other than that, I didn't see the "mess".  

 

Perhaps you could point out what plays gave you that opinion?

I was wondering the same. He tripped on his feet once which every WR in the NFL has probably had happen at one time or another. I'm not sure how that makes him a mess. I think hes about as solid as you could hope for a UDFA.

[twfish]

@WoolMagnet Rogers is 6'1 Tevaun Smith is 6'2 and Mckay is 6'5 I beleive. Hardly tiny. Hilton and dorsett are the shortest

[Smonroe]

6 hours ago, twfish said:

@WoolMagnet Rogers is 6'1 Tevaun Smith is 6'2 and Mckay is 6'5 I beleive. Hardly tiny. Hilton and dorsett are the shortest

 

Actually, I believe Rogers is more like 5'11" and Smith is a shade over 6' according to their pro day write ups.  And I've seen McKay listed at 6'4" everywhere else.

 

I think the Colts measure them with their shoes on, lol!

[Chucklez]

15 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

 

Actually, I believe Rogers is more like 5'11" and Smith is a shade over 6' according to their pro day write ups.  And I've seen McKay listed at 6'4" everywhere else.

 

I think the Colts measure them with their shoes on, lol!

Rogers rocking some 2" disco shoes....

[BrentMc11]

On 8/20/2016 at 10:58 PM, Smonroe said:

He was in with the ones, played the entire game and was even used as a returner.  He has to be the leading candidate for making the team out of that group of WRs.   

 

Did he have a drop?  I was at the game but couldn't tell if it was a drop or bad pass. 

 

 

I said this kid was a keeper in the punt return thread and nobody commented.   He is a better receiver than Bray.  Bray I believe is still a little better at punt returns.  Rogers has glue hands. Mr. slot IMO.  

[BrentMc11]

On 8/20/2016 at 11:01 PM, BlueShoe said:

I am pretty sure he is making the team. Have the WR's ranked as so:

 

Wide Receivers
1	13	T.Y. Hilton	WR	Florida International	5'9"	180
2	10	Donte Moncrief	WR	Mississippi	6'2"	222
3	15	Phillip Dorsett	WR	Miami	5'10"	185
4	11	Quan Bray	WR	Auburn	5'10"	182
5	3	Chester Rogers	WR	Grambling State	6'1"	180
6	5	Tevaun Smith	WR	Iowa	6'0"	205
7	8	Marcus Leak	WR	Maryland	6'0"	210
8	14	Joshua Stangby	WR	Ottawa (Kans.)	5'10"	185
9	2	MeKale McKay	WR	Cincinnati	6'3"	204
10	6	Daniel Anthrop	WR	Purdue	6'0"	193
11	9	Andrew Opoku	WR	Delaware	6'4"	215

Rogers is further along at WR than Bray, but QB is 'special' on Special Teams.

[BrentMc11]

On 8/20/2016 at 11:39 PM, Smonroe said:

 

I'm not sure Ferguson makes the team.  Williams could end up beating him out.  

 

But I'm a proponent of having a RB return KOs if they're short of the goal line.  They're more used to taking hits than WRs.   

 

Take a knee every time it's long.

I think that Ferguson misses and goes to the Practice Squad.  He needs to learn blocking techniques or Andrew will get hammered.  Turbin and Todman in this area.

[BrentMc11]

On 8/20/2016 at 11:39 PM, Smonroe said:

 

I'm not sure Ferguson makes the team.  Williams could end up beating him out.  

 

But I'm a proponent of having a RB return KOs if they're short of the goal line.  They're more used to taking hits than WRs.   

 

Take a knee every time it's long.

Interesting.  Shame on me for forgetting Trey Williams.  I wonder if there are any rumblings that Turbin may be the one out due to salary structures.  Just thinking out loud.

[UKColt13]

I have him pegged as our no. 5. Maybe even no. 4 since Quan hasn't shown huge amounts to me at WR.

 

I want Quan around as a RS, but I think Rogers has the bigger upside at WR at this point.

[BrentMc11]

13 hours ago, akcolt said:

He was back as the PR just as I thought he'd be. He's the only option besides Bray that I see. You can't just stick someone back at PR. It is starting to look like the 5th spot could be between Smith and Bray. I'm not so sure Bray's return duties lock him on the roster. 

 

I am a big fan of Smith love the size and speed. I hope we don't lose him on the PS or to the CFL. I know he was taken in the 1st round of the CFL draft not sure what that means as far as money goes 

One thing to remember is that Quan Bray excels on the kick off team.  He even said he enjoys hitting more than being hit.