tvturner Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Ryan Kelly C Alabama T.J. Green S Clemson Le'Raven Clark OT Texas Tech Hassan Ridgeway DT Texas Joe Haeg OT North Dakota State Antonio Morrison ILB Florida Trevor Bates DE Maine Austin Blythe C Iowa Overall I think I'd give this a B might even a B+. Loved the first 4 picks, shaky on Morrison and Bates, think Haeg can help us out, and Blythe is our new backup C? Wondering what you guys thought of it overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 B+ to A- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weslo1812 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I'd say a solid B right now with A+ potential within the next 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_ Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 OL definitely needed improving but 4 picks seem a bit like overkill. Would have liked a little more defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 So now that the draft is over, what would you guys give our draft? I'm personally saying a B, as I think we really added a lot of talent to the trenches on both sides, and everyone is used to hearing the saying the game is won in the trenches. Here is a list of our picks if you need a refresher: Round 1: C Ryan Kelly Round 2: S T.J. Green Round 3: OL Le'Raven Clark Round 4: DT Hassan Ridgeway ILB Antonio Morrison Round 5: OL Joe Haeg Round 7: OLB Trevor Bates C Austin Blythe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyD4U Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 The only exception I have is Morrison in the 4th. I think he would have been there in later rounds. Love the Oline picks. Know nothing about the other 7th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucklez Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I'd give it an A. The only thing not addressed was pass rush in my eyes, but the right players weren't there and it would've been impossible to properly address everything in 1 go. Keep Andrew upright and hope for the best out of Mathis' presumably final year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Pick 1 A Pick 2 wth?? 3-7 B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Luck fan club Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1959Colts Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I gave it a D. Ryan Kelly seems to be the only player who will step in right away to help in 2016. All the other players appear to be longer term, developmental types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityIsLuck Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Kelly- A Green- B+ Clark- A- Ridgeway- A- Morrison- C+ Haeg- B+ Bates- B Blythe- B+ Overall: A-, great draft. Solidified OL. Drafted lots of potential on defense. I'm so EXCITED to see how they play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Really, impossible to know. Would have liked more pass rush, but I like the attention to the o line. Hopefully they can keep luck off his back and open holes for frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I find it funny everyone piled on Grigs for not getting a good O-line, then Grigs does an O-line heavy draft and some people still give it an F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aReggie7 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I'd say a B that could turn into an A as there is a lot of potential with some of these guys. I questioned the TJ Green pick but I see the potential he has and am not really upset with anyone they passed on. The Morrison pick is the only one I really question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 With this year's draft, we should be set at O-line for some time. This will free us up to draft pass rush and defense heavily next year. I give the draft an A. It addressed a major weakness, and it will improve our rushing and passing game. We already had the skill players and now we have our hard-nosed O-linemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esmort Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 11 minutes ago, BlueCollarColts said: I find it funny everyone piled on Grigs for not getting a good O-line, then Grigs does an O-line heavy draft and some people still give it an F. Its great that he hopefully finally fixed it ... but we would not have had to devote the majority of the draft to it 5 years in if Grigson hadn't jacked it up with horrible decisions to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsfanatic24 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I gave it a D. Ryan Kelly was a solid pick but it wasn't a premium position. Grigson passed on Lawson who was one of the best pass rushers in the draft. Green was a reach as well. There was better players available. Overall, I'm very disappointed in Grigson for not drafting any blue chip defensive players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 B (or B+ to be more specific) We were never going to be able to fix everything in one draft, and as Grigson and Pagano are saying, it's better to go BPA than just picking pass rushers that aren't as highly rated as other players and where the value isn't there. Grigson has finally created the "cauldron of competition" at the offensive line, and I frankly couldn't be happier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 10 minutes ago, BlueCollarColts said: I find it funny everyone piled on Grigs for not getting a good O-line, then Grigs does an O-line heavy draft and some people still give it an F. The people that gave it an F are Trolls. This cant be any worse than a B looking at it realistically on paper. I wouldn't say A because we still didn't get an impressive Pass Rusher but I love our O.Line picks and the TJ pick along with Ridgeway and Bates could even pan out on Defense? When these Polls used to be made couldn't we see who voted what? I remember in past polls it would say who voted what. Who ever voted F or D you guys need to stop watching Football because you nothing about it and just quit Freakin Trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaAllDay757 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 People still not satisfied with the picks lol ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, coltsfanatic24 said: I gave it a D. Ryan Kelly was a solid pick but it wasn't a premium position. Grigson passed on Lawson who was one of the best pass rushers in the draft. Green was a reach as well. There was better players available. Overall, I'm very disappointed in Grigson for not drafting any blue chip defensive players. Lawson is an ok pass rusher, far from elite. He has first round bust written all over him. Be honest, you had no clue who green was. He was not at all a reach in the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 B+ Only because it wasn't a sexy draft. But we got good value on every pick. Almost every guy was a steal where we got him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvturner Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, coltsfanatic24 said: I gave it a D. Ryan Kelly was a solid pick but it wasn't a premium position. Grigson passed on Lawson who was one of the best pass rushers in the draft. Green was a reach as well. Don't know how Kelly wasn't a premium position for us. Center was one of our biggest needs, and Lawson had injury concerns. Green is able to be taught with Pagano's expertise. Can't solve every need in 1 draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 9 minutes ago, coltsfanatic24 said: I gave it a D. Ryan Kelly was a solid pick but it wasn't a premium position. Grigson passed on Lawson who was one of the best pass rushers in the draft. Green was a reach as well. There was better players available. Overall, I'm very disappointed in Grigson for not drafting any blue chip defensive players. How is Green a reach when some thought he'd be a late first rounder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsfanatic24 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 9 minutes ago, jvan1973 said: Lawson is an ok pass rusher, far from elite. He has first round bust written all over him. Be honest, you had no clue who green was. He was not at all a reach in the second. Lawson was among the nation's leaders in tackle for loss (25.5) and sacks ( 12.5). Those are elite stats against great competition. He was a much better value pick then Kelly. That's too high to draft a C, you can find good ones in later rounds. It's rare to find Blue chip pass rushers in later rounds. Those players usually get drafted in the top 2 rounds. We don't have an ok pass rusher on the team. It was a bad move by Grigson imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick12 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 B It was a very good draft. I know a lot of people don't like the Morrison pick, but I think he is being brought in more to be the thumper. I like his grit, he doesn't take **** from anyone, we need someone like that on this defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Zealands #1 Colts Fan Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 B+ O Line set for a while hopefully. Next year Def and a RB ( from a great RB class) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsfanatic24 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 12 minutes ago, BlueCollarColts said: How is Green a reach when some thought he'd be a late first rounder? There was better players available that could play Day 1. Green can't cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Round 1: C Ryan Kelly: A- Round 2: S T.J. Green: C+ Round 3: OL Le'Raven Clark: B+ Round 4: DT Hassan Ridgeway: A+ ILB Antonio Morrison: C+ Round 5: OL Joe Haeg: B Round 7: OLB Trevor Bates: B C Austin Blythe B Trade: C Solid B overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weslo1812 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 21 minutes ago, coltsfanatic24 said: I gave it a D. Ryan Kelly was a solid pick but it wasn't a premium position. Grigson passed on Lawson who was one of the best pass rushers in the draft. Green was a reach as well. There was better players available. Overall, I'm very disappointed in Grigson for not drafting any blue chip defensive players. Lawson was good but not blue chip by any means. And I think it'd be hard to say that by our second pick there were any "blue chip" type defensive players or for that matter pass rushers. Even the top pass rushers selected in this draft have a fair amount of questions behind them and are no sure thing. And Kelly may not have been at a premium position, but center is a very important position up front and he is very very good at that position. AND he's likely going to go a long way in protecting our premium and most valuable asset in Andrew Luck. Which if we loose him, everything is over for us. So in that sense the Kelly pick was a very good pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaAllDay757 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 To be honest this is grigs best draft selection he's had since being in indy hopefully it will show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsfanatic24 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 15 minutes ago, McGregor the Notorious said: Don't know how Kelly wasn't a premium position for us. Center was one of our biggest needs, and Lawson had injury concerns. Green is able to be taught with Pagano's expertise. Can't solve every need in 1 draft The C position isn't a premium position. C was a need but it wasn't BPA. Grigson basically admitted that he doesn't draft BPA. His mind was already made up months ago. You can find good centers in later rounds. You can win without a probowl C. Pass rush, ILB, and CB are premium positions. You can't win a superbowl without great players in the front 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueShoe Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 BlueShoe is always happy when we draft O-Linemen. But even BlueShoe hasn't quite processed the fact that we went in this draft with 6 picks and drafted 4 Offensive Linemen. I have to stop smiling before I can give my unbiased opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 36 minutes ago, BlueCollarColts said: I find it funny everyone piled on Grigs for not getting a good O-line, then Grigs does an O-line heavy draft and some people still give it an F. cant please everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teganslaw Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 B+. I don't know some of the payers chosen, but I like the fact that the Colts filled the needed areas. They went in the right direction, providing protection for Luck and adding depth to the offensive line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 10 minutes ago, coltsfanatic24 said: There was better players available that could play Day 1. Green can't cover. Lol, how many Clemson games did you watch? They played him as a nickel corner at times. Stop basing your thoughts on PFF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 From SBNATION Overall grade: B+ Indianapolis Colts 1 (18). Ryan Kelly, C, Alabama 2 (57). T.J. Green, S, Clemson 3 (82). Le'Raven Clark, OT, Texas Tech 4 (116). Hassan Ridgeway, DT, Texas 4 (125). Antonio Morrison, LB, Florida 5 (155). Joe Haeg, OT, North Dakota State 7 (239). Trevor Bates, OLB, Maine 7 (247). Austin Blythe, C, Iowa Best pick: Kelly - Priority No. 1 in Indianapolis is protecting Andrew Luck and Kelly is ably suited for that duty. Questionable pick: Green - He should jump into the starting lineup straight away, but it's hard to love the pick when Ohio State's Vonn Bell was available. It was clear coming into this draft that the Colts needed help on the offensive line, and they attacked it early with Kelly and Le'Raven Clark in the top 100. Kelly is a starter straight away for Indianapolis. Clark will need some work, but he can play inside and outside. Green was a little bit of a surprising pick at No. 57 with some of the other players available. Ridgeway is an obviously talented and athletic player, but he had some injury issues in college. The skill is there, he just has to actualize it. If he can stay healthy, Morrison is a solid linebacker who can tackle. He's not flashy, but he gets the job done. Picking Joe Haeg in the fifth round was a savvy choice. He's the most experience offensive lineman in the entire drafting, starting 60 games in college. He's pro-ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I really like the Kelly, Haeg (for G), and Bates picks. A's for quality and value. I like the Morrsion pick better than some. His meniscus repair likely influenced is testing. A hard nosed attitude from an ILB is what you want. The other picks are average. Ridgeway could be good, if he gives the effort. I'm only warm on Clark, Green and Blythe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weslo1812 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, coltsfanatic24 said: The C position isn't a premium position. C was a need but it wasn't BPA. Grigson basically admitted that he doesn't draft BPA. His mind was already made up months ago. You can find good centers in later rounds. You can win without a probowl C. Pass rush, ILB, and CB are premium positions. You can't win a superbowl without great players in the front 7. How do you know he wasn't the BP to the colts??? I don't get where people make these ridiculous ststements. And it's also very hard to win with out a good front 5 on offense. It's also especially important to have a good front 5 on offense to protect your most valuable asset, the face of your franchise. Whom if we loose him, we are going nowhere at all. So you can have your possibly decent pass rusher all you want. I'd rather take a piece that is very good at his position, the best in this class and as close to a sure bet as you can get at the position and in the draft. Also a very important position up front on offense who can go a long ways in ensuring that our most valuable asset who means the most to this team is protected and able to stay healthy. That's of HIGH importance in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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