bayone Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 2 hours ago, crazycolt1 said: Must you always? 2 hours ago, SilentHill said: Superbowl or bust! sooner or later ther odds say superbowl t, but they say more busts along the way if thats all u take from the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B~Town Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 4 minutes ago, chad72 said: Terrible pass blocking line making RW run for his life but a much better run blocking line, especially when Max Unger was there. Yes, the RB has to have ability but if you cannot even get a stalemate at the line, you are asking the RB to do too much. Guys like Adrian Peterson and Barry Sanders, they are a different mold, let's cross them off this conversation. But the guys who ran behind Mike Shanahan's ZBS OL in the early to mid 2000s, when they were churning out 1000 yard rushers, the OL was a big part of it, make no mistake about it. No denial it works both ways . Still would not call Seattles line even average at run blocking they get pancaked big part of the reason the lost that SB vs Pats if they knew there line would win the battle running would have been a easy call . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentHill Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 8 minutes ago, bayone said: sooner or later ther odds say superbowl t, but they say more busts along the way if thats all u take from the game It's the only reason to watch the game, to see who wins the league. How boring would it be if there was no champion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockThatBlue Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 1 hour ago, needanoline63 said: Thought it was someone we needed Well RB depth is clearly something we needed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycolt1 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 1 hour ago, needanoline63 said: Thought it was someone we needed Yeah, no running backs are needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 22 minutes ago, B~Town said: No denial it works both ways . Still would not call Seattles line even average at run blocking they get pancaked big part of the reason the lost that SB vs Pats if they knew there line would win the battle running would have been a easy call . They had just gained almost all of those 5 yards on 1st and goal if not for a last minute tackle vs Lynch at the goal line. Half a yard to go, the Patriots came in with their jumbo set and forced the Seahawks hand, and Belichick lined Browner and Revis 1-on-1 on their men in a 3 WR formation, so like most QBs do, you pick on the weakest link which RW thought was Butler. It had nothing to do with their confidence in the OL, nothing whatsoever. Their OL was not a world beater to run against jumbo sets, but it was no slouch if it had to run against 4 DL like most cases where they did very efficiently. If you don't believe me, check the stats: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol2014 and these stats: http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=true&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=RUSHING&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2014&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=false&Submit=Go Their OL was a very good run blocking O-line en route to the SB. The play call with no options for RW or not calling a fade pass play was indeed the issue there on that 2nd down and goal call. Instead, they call a hard slant in traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtRider Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 44 minutes ago, chad72 said: Terrible pass blocking line making RW run for his life but a much better run blocking line, especially when Max Unger was there. Yes, the RB has to have ability but if you cannot even get a stalemate at the line, you are asking the RB to do too much. Guys like Adrian Peterson and Barry Sanders, they are a different mold, let's cross them off this conversation. But the guys who ran behind Mike Shanahan's ZBS OL in the early to mid 2000s, when they were churning out 1000 yard rushers, the OL was a big part of it, make no mistake about it. Yep. The switch to ZBS that Chudzinski/Philbin have eluded to along with undoubted OL draft prospects, coupled with defensive ones, should improve this team almost immediately from a standpoint of expected production this year into next. I agree, the OL is extremely important for Luck as well as the RBs. I just do not expect the Colts to deviate from this strategy of acquiring OL & defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwinnettColt Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Good to have some depth but RB isn't our most pressing need. You can build through the draft, but you sustain through FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakedownstreet Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 4 minutes ago, GwinnettColt said: You can build through the draft, but you sustain through FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwinnettColt Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Just now, shakedownstreet said: Lol. Grigson's hand is in the way so I can't see his goatee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 A Scat Back was needed..And again I don't think Todman will prevent this staff from taking a Back that they like in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim scheurich Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Whats up with all the RB signings? That going to be a position where we need a lot of bodies this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 6 hours ago, throwing BBZ said: Todman plays bigger than his measurables. Possesses good vision, explodes through the hole and flashes a second gear to break a long run. Shows a bit of a wiggle in the hole and makes the first guy miss. Lowers his shoulder well and generally falls forward. Very productive in college. Go Jordan!! A bit of wiggle in the hole is a good thing..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Owen Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 The guy averaged 4.1 ypc for the Jags..and runs a 4.4 - 40. Good pick up now have 4 RB's on the roster now. All of which have real potential. Holes we have still as I see them = 1: Olb 2: C 3: CB 4: RG 5: S Doubt they all get filled by the draft,...but a good 3 of them could. Still need a couple more signings. Still plenty of time...Even just to get a couple stop-gaps to hold until next years draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Superman Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Actually a decent signing IMO. This guy can come in and make the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needanoline63 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 11 hours ago, crazycolt1 said: Yeah, no running backs are needed. Who are they going to run behind huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycolt1 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 47 minutes ago, needanoline63 said: Who are they going to run behind huh? The Colts are going to have 90 players in training camp and you want to make a big deal out of them signing one running back because it's not someone you wanted signed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Good scheme fit coming from Pittsburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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King Colt Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 20 hours ago, SilentHill said: Superbowl or bust! So we have two choices, we need more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMeDy Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 16 hours ago, shakedownstreet said: As long as we put up more points than our opponents, we should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosiernsavga Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Im all for picking up these FA rb's. As long as it keeps us from drafting one. So hopefully at least one will shine enough to make the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Camp body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayone Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 19 hours ago, SilentHill said: It's the only reason to watch the game, to see who wins the league. How boring would it be if there was no champion? The above was a response to my comment In regards to your to Superbowl or bust comment u respond to with the above to my comment of -- sooner or later the odds say Superbowl , but they say more busts along the way if that's all u take from the game 22 hours ago, crazycolt1 said: Must you always? well if u think the the only reason to watch the game is to see who wins the league. No its not, if u love the game u love the nuances of each position and techniques needed to succeed, then u can truly appreciate why plays work or not, and why certain players fit certain systems, recognize a truly great play or effort even if it doesnt work etc etc etc, learn why certain coaches do certain things & appreciate various styles & more importantly understand why some games that are defensive battles oor offensive shootouts are great while other are just horrendous games Of course if u just want to know who wins ,well for that u dont have to watch to get that info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesjan3 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 i think its fair to say they dont expect Elliot to available at 18 and we will not draft a RB in later rounds, next years class is loaded anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakedownstreet Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 4 hours ago, ReMeDy said: As long as we put up more points than our opponents, we should be fine. i concur with this assessment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I like the signing, it's nothing special but gives us more depth at the RB position which we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Showalter Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 22 hours ago, SilentHill said: It's the only reason to watch the game, to see who wins the league. How boring would it be if there was no champion? You watchinghing football with Ricky Bobby again??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMeDy Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 4 hours ago, ReMeDy said: As long as we put up more points than our opponents, we should be fine. Hey wow, that was my 3,000th post, and boy was it a good one if I do say so myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPFolks Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 On 3/18/2016 at 2:48 PM, crazycolt1 said: He also has 1,784 return yards with an average of 25.9. Now that could be interesting. I actually like Quan Bray as our returner a lot. Competition is good, but I think he was one of our best pick-ups last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Darren Sproles 2.0? Colts fans know all too well the type of damage Darren Sproles---a speedy option out of the backfield---can do to a team. Irsay said on Tuesday that the staff is evaluating bringing such a component to the Colts. A quick-twitch running back would be an added element the Colts have really never had during this regime. Ryan Grigson followed up on Tuesday that drafting a running back is a definite option with the depth in that class this year.http://www.colts.com/news/article-1/Jim-Irsay-Discusses-Andrew-Lucks-Contract-Timeline-Much-More-At-NFL-Meetings/004169a3-396a-4771-bd31-e8b6b469e973 Kevin Bowen @KBowenColts And Irsay mentioned a Darren Sproles-type of back. Colts fans would love such a skill set out of the backfield https://t.co/dY03AM4EWb I see Grigson has an audio on the Colts website where he says we are not finished adding to the running back position. Get me Jonathan Williams sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Colts Stephen Holder mentions that he came away with the distinct impression today that running back is higher on Colts’ draft list than previously thought. http://nfltraderumors.co/nfl-rumors-rgiii-colts-cowboys-rams-seahawks/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock8591 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 I almost read "Jordan Rodman" for a second, LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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