Frank Reich just got released, anyone like him for our QB coach?

[chad72]

Frank Reich, who has had a history with the Colts as former WR coach and QB coach prior to being OC this year for the Chargers, was just released.

 

I would like to have him as a QB coach for Luck. Anyone else think that might work?

[jvan1973]

1 minute ago, chad72 said:

Frank Reich, who has had a history with the Colts as former WR coach and QB coach prior to being OC this year for the Chargers, was just released.

 

I would like to have him as a QB coach for Luck. Anyone else think that might work?

I doubt clyde is going anywhere 

[jbaron04]

I'm not sure if it's the oline talent or coaching be it has to be addressed 

[CR91]

clyde had 5 different QBs to prep this season FIVE. hes not going anywhere

[BrentMc11]

I kinda thought Rivers had a pretty good year.  I know it did not last.

 

Maybe someone is eyeing him as coordinator.

[OffensivelyPC]

12 minutes ago, CR91 said:

clyde had 5 different QBs to prep this season FIVE. hes not going anywhere

Pretty tough to argue that.  He could always get an OC job, but I've heard no rumors or anything of the like.  

[21isSuperman]

I don't mind Clyde.  Not sure what Reich could bring to the table that Clyde doesn't

[lollygagger8]

I like Chistensen as a person, but I don't really see him helping develop Luck. 

[chad72]

8 minutes ago, 21isSuperman said:

I don't mind Clyde.  Not sure what Reich could bring to the table that Clyde doesn't

 

Having played NFL QB???

[21isSuperman]

2 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

Having played NFL QB???

You don't have to have played in the NFL to be a good coach

[RockThatBlue]

56 minutes ago, BrentMc11 said:

I kinda thought Rivers had a pretty good year.  I know it did not last.

 

Maybe someone is eyeing him as coordinator.

He always plays well. The coaching and overall team around him always sucks. Almost feel sorry for the guy, he's not gonna win jack crap with the Chargers.

[NBColtsFanatic]

At this point, I'd want Clyde gone. He hasn't done much in terms of development of Luck. It seems like each season we see a similar Luck and nothing too much better. I also don't understand why he stayed, considering he was a spillover from the last regime.

[chad72]

49 minutes ago, 21isSuperman said:

You don't have to have played in the NFL to be a good coach

 

No, but having played QB helps you see the field differently, IMO. Frank has been both a coach and QB and thus I think brings a different perspective.

 

When you see Luck in 2015 still staring down wide outs, not looking off the safety often, I wonder if the QB coach is getting through to him.

[BrentMc11]

2 hours ago, RockThatBlue said:

He always plays well. The coaching and overall team around him always sucks. Almost feel sorry for the guy, he's not gonna win jack crap with the Chargers.

 

1 hour ago, NBColtsFanatic said:

At this point, I'd want Clyde gone. He hasn't done much in terms of development of Luck. It seems like each season we see a similar Luck and nothing too much better. I also don't understand why he stayed, considering he was a spillover from the last regime.

Clyde is fine.  It is not what he didn't do with Luck, he did it with Freeman and Lindsey....3 days...WOW!!

Reich will land on his feet soon....:)

[21isSuperman]

1 hour ago, chad72 said:

 

No, but having played QB helps you see the field differently, IMO. Frank has been both a coach and QB and thus I think brings a different perspective.

 

When you see Luck in 2015 still staring down wide outs, not looking off the safety often, I wonder if the QB coach is getting through to him.

I don't think that is due to coaching.  I think Luck knows his protection is subpar, so he feels pressure/panicked to get the ball out quickly.  This causes him to stare down his primary receiver, allowing the safety to drift towards that side, taking away the throw.  This forces Luck to hold onto the ball longer than he wants, resulting in him taking sacks or forcing throws.  I don't think that's due to coaching, but rather due to a subpar OL.  Just my opinion

[Superman]

1 hour ago, 21isSuperman said:

I don't think that is due to coaching.  I think Luck knows his protection is subpar, so he feels pressure/panicked to get the ball out quickly.  This causes him to stare down his primary receiver, allowing the safety to drift towards that side, taking away the throw.  This forces Luck to hold onto the ball longer than he wants, resulting in him taking sacks or forcing throws.  I don't think that's due to coaching, but rather due to a subpar OL.  Just my opinion

 

Luck knows his protection is bad, which somehow results in him holding the ball too long?

 

That's not how it works at all.

[jet1968]

Fix the offensive line and a lot of other problems will fix themselves.

[21isSuperman]

7 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

Luck knows his protection is bad, which somehow results in him holding the ball too long?

 

That's not how it works at all.

Just a hypothesis.  Bad protection > lock onto primary target > defense catches on and safety takes away his primary target, resulting in Luck holding onto the ball too long

[BOTT]

5 hours ago, BrentMc11 said:

 

Clyde is fine.  It is not what he didn't do with Luck, he did it with Freeman and Lindsey....3 days...WOW!!

Reich will land on his feet soon....:)

I would give more credit to Chud

[GoColts8818]

I don't think Clyde is getting fired.  If anything I think his stock is up with the Colts because of the job he did with the backup QBs this year and helping to get plays in.  

[zibby43]

Clyde is a good coach but I think he is getting a little stale.

 

It can be a huge benefit to have a quality coach that has been on a few different staffs.  As a coach, that is the best way to pick up new (and worthwhile) trends, information, etc.

 

Diversity in experience is invaluable.  In Clyde's case, continuity is a valuable attribute but not at the expense of not being caught up on the best way to train and prepare young NFL QBs these days.

[BrentMc11]

11 hours ago, BOTT said:

I would give more credit to Chud

I wonder.  You may be right.  Clyde has ALL of his time into the QBs.  Chud has to deal with the entire offense.  Regardless, I believe it was a team effort.  I worked.

[gacker65]

17 hours ago, BrentMc11 said:

 

Clyde is fine.  It is not what he didn't do with Luck, he did it with Freeman and Lindsey....3 days...WOW!!

Reich will land on his feet soon....:)

It is actually what he didn't do with Luck.  He had Luck for 4 years and still Luck has some of the bad habits that he had in college.  Time for him to go.

 

[BrentMc11]

42 minutes ago, gacker65 said:

It is actually what he didn't do with Luck.  He had Luck for 4 years and still Luck has some of the bad habits that he had in college.  Time for him to go.

 

We can go back and forth on this one and not get anywhere.  I won't argue with ya!!  Ready to get rocking on new hires and fun stuff.  I will root for any coach that is hired on the staff...even if/when Clyde leaves.  I just think he will stay.

[chad72]

How about those who said Clyde would stay in this thread?

 

I would like Frank Reich, personally for QB coach.

[Superman]

4 minutes ago, chad72 said:

How about those who said Clyde would stay in this thread?

 

I would like Frank Reich, personally for QB coach.

 

I think it should be someone who knows Chud's offense. Clyde played a significant role for the Colts in 2015, feeding the plays in from the OC to the QB. Since Chud likes to call plays from the booth, whoever is giving the plays to the QB should be familiar with the terminology and the concepts.

 

I'm not against Reich at all. But I'd be interested in a Norv Turner assistant. That's Chud's heritage.

[LockeDown]

20 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

I think it should be someone who knows Chud's offense. Clyde played a significant role for the Colts in 2015, feeding the plays in from the OC to the QB. Since Chud likes to call plays from the booth, whoever is giving the plays to the QB should be familiar with the terminology and the concepts.

 

I'm not against Reich at all. But I'd be interested in a Norv Turner assistant. That's Chud's heritage.

How about Norv Turner?  

[krunk]

When I look at the 2013 Cleveland Browns I have to say Rob Chudzinski put together a nice little staff.  Those dummies in the front office just didn't give the guy time to work through the lumps.  You had Chud as the head coach, then you had Norv Turner as the OC along with Ray Horton as the DC.  I saw that guy Flajole that we interviewed was also on Chuds staff as the linebackers coach. 

[krunk]

I see Jon Embree was Chuds tight end coach in Cleveland. I wonder if he's going to try to grab him from Tampa to come here?  Actually from doing a quick google search it appears the Bucs just decided to retain Embree.

[Superman]

1 hour ago, LockeDown said:

How about Norv Turner?  

 

OC in Minnesota. His son who has about five minutes of actual experience is an assistant on that staff also.

[crazycolt1]

Why does everyone assume that Reich want to be a QB coach? Also, why does every fired coach be the one the Colts need? I have always been a mind in it's better to hire a coach who has a job than to hire off the street.

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

Why does everyone assume that Reich want to be a QB coach? Also, why does every fired coach be the one the Colts need? I have always been a mind in it's better to hire a coach who has a job than to hire off the street.

Because we have spoiled fans (sarcasm) but we do in reality. I mean that in a good way.

[Bluefire4]

2 hours ago, chad72 said:

How about those who said Clyde would stay in this thread?

 

I would like Frank Reich, personally for QB coach.

Well in defense of those people, he did not get fired, he got promoted.

[zibby43]

Ideally, it would be nice to see the Colts land an "up and comming"/hod commodity QB, if possible (as opposed to someone that has been discarded multiple times). 

 

Mike Sanford turned out to be just what Notre Dame needed.  I do not know who would prove to be the NFL equivalent; need to do some research.

[zibby43]

On 1/6/2016 at 11:01 PM, zibby43 said:

Clyde is a good coach but I think he is getting a little stale.

 

It can be a huge benefit to have a quality coach that has been on a few different staffs.  As a coach, that is the best way to pick up new (and worthwhile) trends, information, etc.

 

Diversity in experience is invaluable.  In Clyde's case, continuity is a valuable attribute but not at the expense of not being caught up on the best way to train and prepare young NFL QBs these days.

 

2 hours ago, chad72 said:

How about those who said Clyde would stay in this thread?

 

I would like Frank Reich, personally for QB coach.

 

I'm feeling pretty vindicated, actually.

[gacoop1]

We'll pick 2nd in 2017 just ask the Chargers.  He helped the Chargers pick #3 overall in the draft this year. Need I say more.

[csmopar]

On 1/5/2016 at 11:43 AM, jvan1973 said:

I doubt clyde is going anywhere 

Guess he is. Shocked me too

[Cynjin]

5 hours ago, gacoop1 said:

We'll pick 2nd in 2017 just ask the Chargers.  He helped the Chargers pick #3 overall in the draft this year. Need I say more.

 

Frank caused all of those injuries?

[mikey287]

6 hours ago, gacoop1 said:

We'll pick 2nd in 2017 just ask the Chargers.  He helped the Chargers pick #3 overall in the draft this year. Need I say more.

 

Well...yes, you do. If you think Frank Reich singlehandedly  caused the team this year and only this year to plummet, then yes, I'd want to hear more about that...

[jvan1973]

2 hours ago, csmopar said:

Guess he is. Shocked me too

I didn't see him getting offered an OC job.  I know he is well respected in the coaching community.   Peyton loves the guy.    Hopefully he learned from his mistakes from his first stint as an OC