peytonmanning18 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Pagano is a way better option than either of these two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ehrman.Dutton.Cook.Barnes Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Coach change isn't the answer here. No one could have made this team ( the oldest on the NFL) competitive. Grigso put that team together and he needs to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achcolts Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 51 minutes ago, Dustin said: Wasn't Gruden notoriously hard to work with/get along with? Or am I just misremembering? honestly i dont really know, i wasnt exposed to gruden besides the SB year because my elementary gym teacher was a bucs fan. i have very little to go off of, but i feel that he is a football guru with QBs being his strong-suit. he also coined "the sheriff" for peyton after that miami MNF game IIRC ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achcolts Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 1 hour ago, ReMeDy said: I just hope New England fans don't make Chucky jokes if we lose. hahah the chucky faces will be back!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 21 minutes ago, ThorstenDenmark said: http://on.aol.com/video/jon-gruden-colts-need-to-play-a-complete-game-519211339 Gruen explains whats wrong with the colts in 2 min. Could he work with andrew luck... oh yes he could. Could he work with Grigson... I dont think so. why....??? Watch this clip and listen to his critique. Go Colts Any blind , non football fan could have told you everything he said.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 18 minutes ago, Restored said: Something tells me Gruden's and Grigson's personality wouldn't mesh and we'd end up watching a WWE match in the lock room by week 3. Who says grigs would be there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbear Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Gruden won the year after Dungy was dumped. It was bascially Dungy's team. Didn't do much after that as I recall. Shanahan won two SBs with Elway and Terrell. Didn't do much after that as I recall. Seems more like the "grass is greener" type scenario to me. I'd rather keep Pagano. Honestly, the only ex-NFL coach I'd really get excited about is Cowher, and I don't see that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achcolts Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 40 minutes ago, csmopar said: Why? Convince me why i think he likes the colts or why he would be a great fit? 1) perfect team to hop on to edit: the way he broadcasts, it just sounds like hes been dying to come back and coach 2) experience. i think hes a game film nerd, atleast with QBs, or it atleast appears that way and im just jumping to conclusions... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelDragon Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I figured the Colts gig would be desirable. It will be fascinating to see who comes out of the woodwork to pine for the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKColt13 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Gruden yes. Shanahan no. Gruden would want the keys to the castle though, no big shot GM overruling him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Alexander Morillo Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 5 minutes ago, cbear said: Gruden won the year after Dungy was dumped. It was bascially Dungy's team. Didn't do much after that as I recall. Shanahan won two SBs with Elway and Terrell. Didn't do much after that as I recall. Seems more like the "grass is greener" type scenario to me. I'd rather keep Pagano. Honestly, the only ex-NFL coach I'd really get excited about is Cowher, and I don't see that happening. Lol and what has Pagano done? We just want proven winners; guys that went to the big game and won it instead of blowing their load early in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Introspect Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 50 minutes ago, jbaron04 said: Me personally I like Mike over g gruden GTFOHWTBS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto123 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 My top 3: Saban Gruden Cowher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achcolts Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 whatever they decide to do, (hopefully not shanahan), i just hope its a proven coach. not a rookie one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achcolts Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Just now, presto123 said: My top 3: Saban Gruden Cowher cowher i just dont see it happening. i feel like hes been pretty vocal about not coming back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfarley Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 GRUDEN????!!!!!!!!! Quick, Hire Him before he changes his mind,..... OMG !!!!!!!! Super Bowl here we come. There is NO better candidate !!!!!! If we hire him ASAP, he can already be going over draft prognosis and such !! (Fire Pagano tonight if necessary,,,, ok, you can wait till tomorrow, but call gruden tonight), This would make up for this lost season. Please do it JIMMY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto123 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, chrisfarley said: GRUDEN????!!!!!!!!! Quick, Hire Him before he changes his mind,..... OMG !!!!!!!! Super Bowl here we come. There is NO better candidate !!!!!! If we hire him ASAP, he can already be going over draft prognosis and such !! (Fire Pagano tonight if necessary,,,, ok, you can wait till tomorrow, but call gruden tonight), This would make up for this lost season. Please do it JIMMY!!! I'm giving this sarcastic post the "Chucky stare". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gacoop1 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I'd take either, anyone now is an upgrade. My vote would be Shanahan. He's a visionary just ask Kirk Cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltsman1788 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 If this franchise hires Mike Shanahan we will likely be in for an extended period of mediocrity. He was absolutely horrible as coach of the Redskins. Colts would be stupid to hire that man. He already ruined RG3. Keep him the **** away from Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patagonia Chris Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 2 hours ago, Jules said: Oh goody bleacher report says it. And apparently every coach from ages 10 to 90 is interested in the Colts now. BLEACHER REPORT HEADLINE: GRUDEN COULD BE INTERESTED IN COLTS (Begin Slideshow to see what other coaches may be candidates...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 1 hour ago, cbear said: Gruden won the year after Dungy was dumped. It was bascially Dungy's team. Didn't do much after that as I recall. Shanahan won two SBs with Elway and Terrell. Didn't do much after that as I recall. Seems more like the "grass is greener" type scenario to me. I'd rather keep Pagano. Honestly, the only ex-NFL coach I'd really get excited about is Cowher, and I don't see that happening. Shanahan made the playoffs with guys like Jake Plummer and Brian Griese....with one playoff win over the Patriots. He made the playoffs with RG3....that alone should get him into the HOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 2 hours ago, Jules said: IMO Gruden slowly ruined the great team Dungy built in Tampa Bay. I think we could get even worse if any of these potential coaching names hold any substance in rumors. We could be 6-10 next year instead of the 12-4 we dream of. Completely false. He walked into a terribly managed team with a horrible GM who let the team fall apart. Gruden took a lot of unnecessary blame. People always say that he won a Super Bowl with Dungy's team as if winning a Super Bowl is easy if you have good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 8 minutes ago, Coltsman1788 said: If this franchise hires Mike Shanahan we will likely be in for an extended period of mediocrity. He was absolutely horrible as coach of the Redskins. Colts would be stupid to hire that man. He already ruined RG3. Keep him the **** away from Luck! How can you ruin what is bad already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffensivelyPC Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 10 minutes ago, Coltsman1788 said: If this franchise hires Mike Shanahan we will likely be in for an extended period of mediocrity. He was absolutely horrible as coach of the Redskins. Colts would be stupid to hire that man. He already ruined RG3. Keep him the **** away from Luck! RG3 ruined RG3 and no one else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 In the two years following Gruden's Super Bowl win, the Bucs went 7–9 and 5–11 respectively, implying to many Dungy supporters that Gruden had simply taken over a strong team and driven it into the ground. However, the high draft picks sacrificed by the team to acquire Gruden, along with salary-cap issues and failed draft choices left by the former general manager Rich McKay (with whom Gruden had a bitter relationship) limited Gruden's ability to field the teams he wanted. With no emerging talent in the fold and no money to afford replacements, the team was decimated by injuries to many of the Super Bowl stars, including Joe Jurevicius, Greg Spires, Shelton Quarles, and Brian Kelly, as well as acrimony with highly paid veterans such as Sapp, Keyshawn Johnson and Keenan McCardell. -Wikipedia And that's only half the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennymoore24 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Shanahan? Is this a joke? He has a great setup and wins two Super Bowls. Then did nothing after that. Bombed in Washington. NO WAY! Plus, Irsay said 4 years ago he doesn't want to recycle HCs or GMs. I would prefer Pagano as HC, Chud as OC, a new DC, and a new GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltsman1788 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, DougDew said: How can you ruin what is bad already? RG3 won the rookie of the year his first season so he obviously had a good start before Shanahan helped to ruin him by playing him while injured against Seattle in the playoffs. He was never the same after that. Outside of that the game has passed by Shanahan. He is mediocre coach now as his tenure in Washington showed. Colts can do much better in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 rmer Raiders general manager Bruce Allen joined the Bucs in 2004, Gruden finally had the general manager–head coach partnership he desired, and while the salary cap continued to plague the team (which spent the least money in the league between 2004 and 2009)[15] their 2004 and 2005 drafts yielded a few impact players, including 2005 Offensive NFL Rookie of the Year Award winner Carnell "Cadillac" Williams. Also, 2005 marked a return to the playoffs, as the Bucs posted a surprising 11–5 record, despite the loss of starting quarterback Brian Griese and some controversial coaching decisions, including a two-point conversion in the final seconds to defeat the Washington Redskins, who would later return to Tampa and eliminate the Bucs from the wild-card round of the playoffs. -Wikipedia They didn't reach the Super Bowl again but neither did Dungy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltsman1788 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 7 minutes ago, lennymoore24 said: Shanahan? Is this a joke? He has a great setup and wins two Super Bowls. Then did nothing after that. Bombed in Washington. NO WAY! Plus, Irsay said 4 years ago he doesn't want to recycle HCs or GMs. I would prefer Pagano as HC, Chud as OC, a new DC, and a new GM. I would also prefer retaining Pagano to hiring Mike Shanahan. He is horrible. Bad coach and poor locker room repoire. Jim Caldwell has more life to him than that emotionless zombie. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck_hunter21 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, Coltsman1788 said: RG3 won the rookie of the year his first season so he obviously had a good start before Shanahan helped to ruin him by playing him while injured against Seattle in the playoffs. He was never the same after that. No. Gimmick offense made Robert look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Showalter Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 1 hour ago, cbear said: Gruden won the year after Dungy was dumped. It was bascially Dungy's team. Didn't do much after that as I recall. Shanahan won two SBs with Elway and Terrell. Didn't do much after that as I recall. Seems more like the "grass is greener" type scenario to me. I'd rather keep Pagano. Honestly, the only ex-NFL coach I'd really get excited about is Cowher, and I don't see that happening. I agree on Cowher, but i'd add in Billick if he were to return to coaching... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALL BLUE Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 If Gruden is such a good coach why is he doing Monday night football??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffensivelyPC Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 6 minutes ago, ALL BLUE said: If Gruden is such a good coach why is he doing Monday night football??? The answer isn't what you are insinuating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loudnproudcolt Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Everybody talking about how Gruden won with Dungy's players. True, but Dungy was let go because he could not get those players to the Superbowl. He did it the first year with Brad Johnson as his QB. With that QB, quite amazing. Also he would have had the Raiders in the SB the year before, if not for the terrible call on the field reversing Brady's fumble, the reason why the tuck rule was founded. He did that with Rich Gannon, who had a fantastic year. Also, remember the Buc's had to trade a first round pick to get Gruden. What is undeniable is he can coach QB's while making teams very good according to the past! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltfreak Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 give me Shannahan any day of the two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwinnettColt Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Dang it. I thought I'd make it through a "Who will be the Colts' new coach" thread and NOT read anything about Nick Saban. Gruden didn't dazzle me. He took a team Dungy built and took them to the SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJpalmbeacher2 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 2 hours ago, Jules said: I heard Vince Lombardi wants to come back from the dead to coach us but only if we fire Grigson. I'm not sure the power sweep will be effective in today's football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwinnettColt Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 48 minutes ago, lennymoore24 said: Shanahan? Is this a joke? He has a great setup and wins two Super Bowls. Then did nothing after that. Bombed in Washington. NO WAY! Plus, Irsay said 4 years ago he doesn't want to recycle HCs or GMs. I would prefer Pagano as HC, Chud as OC, a new DC, and a new GM. i like it. I'd want Mike Pettine as DC (or possibly Eric Mangini as DC). I'm not sure for GM, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swan Ronson Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Surely being able to win a Super Bowl with someone else's team is a plus. Especially if that person wasn't able to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeDown Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Shanahan automatically makes a team a great running team. Gruden automatically makes a QB better. Shanahan just likes to coach and that's why he would take the job. Gruden, however, would only take a job that he thinks he can win it all. He's turned down many offers over the years. I am torn. Both would be hard to get along with I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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