braveheartcolt Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 What do you think Andrew's best / worse 3 attributes are as QB? We probably all know these, but with the danger of this place becoming a Manning battle ground, thought it might be good to focus on Colts football... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Worst in no particular order 1.Hangs onto the ball to long2.Accuracy has been a problem3.He is still learning to pick up the blitz Good1.Seems to remain cool under pressure2.Picks up things quickly3.Tough as nails4.Never quits on a play whether he makes a bad throw or he is under alot of pressure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLILLINGTON10 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 best) keeping his eyes always down field. worst) having a terrible o-line. (we fix that and i think the other problems take care of themselves) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Worst3.He is still learning to pick up the blitzThat's kind of the OL's job.Now he has to block for himself, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 That's kind of the OL's job.Now he has to block for himself, too?Its his job as much is it is theres to see the blitz coming, O linemen cant block everybody all the time, if one of his O Linemen does not pick it up then he needs to point out the blitzer so his O Lineman sees him or Luck needs to get rid of the ball quicker preferably audibling out of a play and calling for a quick pass route or throwing to a hot route to get rid of the ball. Its a team game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheartcolt Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 Best - clutch when the chips are down- strong and athletic, ocan escape pressure ( I see his sack numbers being very low IF he gets a half decent line)- intelligence. I can see his playbook and line of scrimage mastery becomng epic Worst - holds onto the ball to long. Needs to learn a punt is not the end of the world (I'm sure he knows that, however....)- accuaracy, although not sure if this is down to the team he has to release- decision making. Frequently took the wrong option There is no guarantee that he will improve on his best attributes, or address his worst, but my money is on him doing so. To me, his 'clutchness' is the most exciting and most valuable, providing he grows in line with his first year performances. Good times ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deedub75 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Best - Luck is mobile when he needs to be and he is accurate when throwing on the move Worst - Kind of too early to say because the O line was so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacolts56 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Best 1. QB / schematic intelligence2. Big, strong and athletic for his position. Durable.3. Accountable for his mistakes....yet he doesn't wallow in them during the game. Worst 1. Needs to throw the ball away, take a sack or run for available yardage (and slide!) when the pass play is just not there.2. Arc his deep passes more....let Hilton and Avery use their speed to run under them.3. Keep a little closer eye on defensive substitutions...we could have forced up a few more "too many men" penalties this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Loving the best and worst! I think another best for me is the work he puts in to not repeat his mistakes. And you can tell be just enjoys being out there and playing with the team. For those reasons along I look for his weaknesses to improve drasticlly. Going to be a long off season ;( lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azcolt Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Best: Unlike his predecessor he doesn't have happy feet. He relishes playing in your face he-man tackle football.Worst: Unlike his predecessor he doesn't have happy feet and will have a short career unless the OL is much better than it has been for the past 15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentMc11 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Loving the best and worst!I think another best for me is the work he puts in to not repeat his mistakes. And you can tell be just enjoys being out there and playing with the team.For those reasons along I look for his weaknesses to improve drasticlly. Going to be a long off season ;( lolLong....yet fun with all of the new faces....some good FAs coming in, the draft...continuing the architecture of the MONSTER!!!! Go !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 BEST:1. Pocket Presence2. Extended Plays for big gains3. Intelligence4. Ability to shake off int's when he throws them5. Having the numbers he had this year behind that horrible oline6. That hard count he perfected vs the Texans7. The neck beard NEGATIVES:1. Extended plays for bad plays (Sacks, Fumbles, Interceptions)2. Stare downs with WR's3. Trying to do too much instead of throwing it away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentMc11 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 What do you think Andrew's best / worse 3 attributes are as QB? We probably all know these, but with the danger of this place becoming a Manning battle ground, thought it might be good to focus on Colts football...Looks like my Colts friends know their LUCK! Good job guys!!!! I do not have much to add. I will say once again we need more designed roll-outs and no huddle.....Luck is as accurate throwing on the run as any QB I have seen....better than in the pocket...a truly incredible athlete!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INTP-TX Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 What made Peyton grow to become a great player was his work ethic and study ethic. Although Andrew Luck had a good season, an objective analysis of Luck's rookie year shows that he must do a lot of work to improve. Here are his standings by stats (among all NFL QBs)/(among all rookie QBs): QB Rating: 26th/4th (behind RG3, RW, NF)Compl Pct: 31st/6th (behind RG3, RW, NF, RT, BW)INT: T-2nd Most/Most (behind RG3, RW, NF, RT, BW)Fum Lost: T-5th Most/Most (behind RG3, RW, NF, RT, BW)Yds/Att: 26th/3rd (behind RG3, RW) Overall, I feel he is a good quarterback and with hard work and study, he could be really good. He has some mechanics issues on release causing his inaccuracy. I can't pin down the arm/wrist/hand inconsistencies, but he often throws too high and this is commonly caused by too long of a stride while throwing. Additionally, he should work on his arm strength throwing short to medium passes to make more laser throws instead of rainbows. This can be a cause of INTs in the much quicker DB NFL. Lastly, getting in the habit of dumping the ball vs taking the critical sack can reduce fumbles and untimely big yardage losses. Work hard in the offseason Andrew on yourself (and in timing drills with your receivers) and you can be a great one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheartcolt Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 What made Peyton grow to become a great player was his work ethic and study ethic. Although Andrew Luck had a good season, an objective analysis of Luck's rookie year shows that he must do a lot of work to improve. Here are his standings by stats (among all NFL QBs)/(among all rookie QBs): QB Rating: 26th/4th (behind RG3, RW, NF)Compl Pct: 31st/6th (behind RG3, RW, NF, RT, BW)INT: T-2nd Most/Most (behind RG3, RW, NF, RT, BW)Fum Lost: T-5th Most/Most (behind RG3, RW, NF, RT, BW)Yds/Att: 26th/3rd (behind RG3, RW) Overall, I feel he is a good quarterback and with hard work and study, he could be really good. He has some mechanics issues on release causing his inaccuracy. I can't pin down the arm/wrist/hand inconsistencies, but he often throws too high and this is commonly caused by too long of a stride while throwing. Additionally, he should work on his arm strength throwing short to medium passes to make more laser throws instead of rainbows. This can be a cause of INTs in the much quicker DB NFL. Lastly, getting in the habit of dumping the ball vs taking the critical sack can reduce fumbles and untimely big yardage losses. Work hard in the offseason Andrew on yourself (and in timing drills with your receivers) and you can be a great one! When can we expect the statistic review of where he excelled in? Later today? And are we having a section on some of the reasons for the above 'stats'? I prefer to look at both sides when analysing such things. Maybe I'm being overly fussy though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INTP-TX Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 When can we expect the statistic review of where he excelled in? Later today? And are we having a section on some of the reasons for the above 'stats'? I prefer to look at both sides when analysing such things. Maybe I'm being overly fussy though.... Fair question. Forgive me for appearing to be one-sided. Here are some of the more glowing stats: Att: 5th/1stCompl: 10th/1stTD 14th/2nd (RW)Rush Att: 5th/3rd (RG3, RW)Rush Yds: 8th/3rd (RG3, RW)Rush TD: 4th/2nd (RG3) He is a good leader He has had a less than stellar O-line and has done very well in dealing with it. He is very tough. He takes hits well. He is a hard-nosed competitor and stays focused for 60 minutes, no matter what the score. As I mentioned, I thought overall he a had a good year. With hard work and study he can be a great one. Thanks for the reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheartcolt Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 Fair question. Forgive me for appearing to be one-sided. Here are some of the more glowing stats: Att: 5th/1stCompl: 10th/1stTD 14th/2nd (RW)Rush Att: 5th/3rd (RG3, RW)Rush Yds: 8th/3rd (RG3, RW)Rush TD: 4th/2nd (RG3) He is a good leader He has had a less than stellar O-line and has done very well in dealing with it. He is very tough. He takes hits well. He is a hard-nosed competitor and stays focused for 60 minutes, no matter what the score. As I mentioned, I thought overall he a had a good year. With hard work and study he can be a great one. Thanks for the reply.No need to thank me for the reply...! Very kind. Welcome to the board though....hope you stay. Strange user name! Other stats I was thinking about was: wins, comeback drives, yards, 300 yard games, most yards in one game (rookie), 3rd down (esp 3rd and long) and completions with a defender handing onto him (j/k).... Agree that he has a big future in this game....cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INTP-TX Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 No need to thank me for the reply...! Very kind. Welcome to the board though....hope you stay. Strange user name! Other stats I was thinking about was: wins, comeback drives, yards, 300 yard games, most yards in one game (rookie), 3rd down (esp 3rd and long) and completions with a defender handing onto him (j/k).... Agree that he has a big future in this game....cheers Thanks. User name is derived from the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI). Millions globally are dedicated to this and it is a powerful tool used by many companies, institutions, etc for staff hiring, and team development. It analyzes personality types based on psychological science. See this link:http://www.personalitypage.com/html/portraits.html I am an INTP. The INTP is a problem-solver/trouble-shooter, who focuses most on patterns and processes to solve problems. Hence, as an INTP, I was not focused on intangibles such as you just mentioned in your reply. - off the computer and on to football today...see ya next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwing BBZ Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 best 1) he makes so many clutch, downfield throws when you need them. Difficult throws, he is Fearless. 2) while getting clubed, battered, grabed, yanked and pulled on he stands in there like a Hercules. It is Awesome. 3) his mental attitude. A grown up, humble, Teammate. worst 1) Guessing he surely threw 400-450 balls behind his receivers, a 'part' of so many so called drops, strengthen the arm, tighten the spiral Please. 2) serious man love for Reggies Hands. Were talking ftball here Men! OL' Reg was making big plays to the bitter end wasn`t he. 3) I trust BA when he said he was trying to get Andrew to go underneath more. Andrew is not good at quick reaction accurate short passes. Note the throw to Reggie down by the goal line against Ravens. 10 yard pass way off. Practice ... ... I am to understand Aaron Rodgers throwing motion was totally revamped while he sat on the packs Bench. Andrew will improve over the next few years and we have every reason to believe he wil be AweSomer! Can`t help myself, I do apologize, $tat$ said he audibled to a run on 3rd and 7, not his OC. Last night. NOT a too conservative FOX! Interesting I thought. Go Blue, Go Colts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 His best attributes are his improvisational skills, and making throws even with pressure all around him. His worst attributes are that he forces a lot of throws, and makes a lot of bad mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 He had plenty to improve, as do all rookies, but I will say one thing. I don't feel like Andrew has an accuracy problem as much as he does a placement and timing problem. Before I sound contradictory, what I mean is that clearly Luck can make all the throws, he can hit tight windows, and he can put touch on the ball. So it's not like he is an inaccurate passer at his core. Something he struggled with this season, I feel, is the speed of the game, and having to make adjustments when he didn't have a clean pocket. Not making excuses or anything for him though. He needs to work on those things, I just feel like in a few years from now the words "Andrew Luck" and "inaccurate" won't be associated with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Best: His dreamy eyesWorst: The beard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Worst: 1. Goes to the well too often. Too reliant on Reggie and certain plays (quick slant) Too predictable.2. Staring down receivers. Did it more with Colts than he did at Stanford.3. Arm strength. Wish he had a bit more on his fastball. Best: 1. Brains/Leadership/Poise.2. Underrated athleticism.3. Ability to forget bad play (his, or teammate) and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fx Stryker Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 He doesn't have any bad attributes, he is Andrew Luck. It's an oxymoron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarassedOffTheSite Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 "Worst" Oi... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheartcolt Posted January 14, 2013 Author Share Posted January 14, 2013 · Hidden by Nadine, January 14, 2013 - personal shot Hidden by Nadine, January 14, 2013 - personal shot He doesn't have any bad attributes, he is Andrew Luck. It's an oxymoron. What, as in 'FX is a Colts fan' type of thing? Sorry, English was never my subject strong.... Link to comment
cmgww Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I'll let you all hash out the stats and serious stuff, here's my lighter take: Best-1. Stone cold assassin in the clutch2. Is probably stronger/as strong as some of the Colts LBs3. THIS: http://youtu.be/pFbqCrTzdzsdude is a player with balls of steel, watch the replays....unreal! Worst-1. Style of dress- Man, dude needs a stylist! One press conference, he's wearing a mustard/gold herringbone sport coat over a messy blue oxford. He looked like a TA for a professor! On a more serious note, I really could care less as long as he plays well, lol.2. He's so "wise beyond his years", that I feel dumb listening to him, and I am a 33 year old college grad!3. The beard....Not a fan. I liked the goatee in the end of season interview. Much better look. All in all, these were just for fun. I am glad to have him as a Colt! Keep in mind most rookie QBs make a huge leap between their rookie and 2nd years (see Peyton for one)....Luck did it at Stanford from his first year as starter to his junior year....With his work ethic, look for the rookie stuff to be cleaned up and his game to progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollygagger8 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Best:Hard as nailsDoesn't let bad play effect himIncredibly SmartThrows very well on the runLooks slow, but he covers ground quickly when runningWorst:Stares down receiversForces throws that sail on him / overthrowsPlaying on the roadI can't fault him too hard. He did an amazing job for being a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentMc11 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Best:Hard as nailsDoesn't let bad play effect himIncredibly SmartThrows very well on the runLooks slow, but he covers ground quickly when runningWorst:Stares down receiversForces throws that sail on him / overthrowsPlaying on the roadI can't fault him too hard. He did an amazing job for being a rookie.I cannot get over how seemingly easy it is for number 12 to shrug off the big boys.....he is strong....and tough.....good tackling technique as well!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoKeR Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I'm just going to list the negatives, I don't want to think of every one of his best attributes, I'm lazy.* some of these may disappear with a better line *- holds on to the ball too long*- somewhat inconsistent with accuracy*- he looks off defenders BUT he still stares down receivers at times- he can be risky with the football, trying to throw away the ball or make a pass as he's getting sacked. He's made it work several times but it can lead to outcomes where we're praying for "the tuck rule".*-sometimes he's a little too hesitant to run the ball himself and just take what the defense is giving him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JlynRN Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Best - He's good looking !!! well he is LOL Ok ok hmmm let me think: - Great clutch player - Doesn't let his mistakes get to him - Able to throw well on the run and shrug off tacklers at the same time Worst: - holds on to the ball too long - tries to force throws sometimes - Accuracy with some throws (but I think that will improve with a better O-line) He's still quite good looking !!! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 His worst quality? He cares too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoKeR Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 ^^^^^^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callie Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Good:ClutchHas LegsCan stop a tackleSmartGood Looking Bad:Needs to learn to throw it awayPick up on Blitzs and do better with the quick slantsThe neck beard (a little scruff is fine)The stash or thing he was growing in post season interviewsChoice of outfits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 All fun and good answers. We all think he holds on to the ball too long - when he takes a sack. But no one is complaining when he holds on to it too long and makes a big play to extend a drive.Cake and eat it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentHill Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Best = He Win's and he is the most Clutch QB in the NFL, he also is out best tackler, and he is amazing when throwing on the run. Worst = He showed he was a rookie at times this season, but that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dee Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Holds on too the BALL too long....... wth, dude is rookie... .. INDY is set. ... What do you think Andrew's best / worse 3 attributes are as QB? We probably all know these, but with the danger of this place becoming a Manning battle ground, thought it might be good to focus on Colts football... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoKeR Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Best - He's good looking !!! well he is LOL Ok ok hmmm let me think: - Great clutch player - Doesn't let his mistakes get to him - Able to throw well on the run and shrug off tacklers at the same time Worst: - holds on to the ball too long - tries to force throws sometimes - Accuracy with some throws (but I think that will improve with a better O-line) He's still quite good looking !!! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JlynRN Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Attached Thumbnails thanks JoKeR !!! Great picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGIII Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 He had plenty to improve, as do all rookies, but I will say one thing.I don't feel like Andrew has an accuracy problem as much as he does a placement and timing problem.Before I sound contradictory, what I mean is that clearly Luck can make all the throws, he can hit tight windows, and he can put touch on the ball. So it's not like he is an inaccurate passer at his core. Something he struggled with this season, I feel, is the speed of the game, and having to make adjustments when he didn't have a clean pocket.Not making excuses or anything for him though. He needs to work on those things, I just feel like in a few years from now the words "Andrew Luck" and "inaccurate" won't be associated with each other. Well, it is still an accuracy problem but you're certainly right that it's the "good" kind of accuracy problem. He's capable of putting the ball on a spot and in tight windows but he has been generally inconsistent and a lot of that seems to stem from his lower body mechanics. It's the kind of thing that I don't even anticipate requiring much coaching to fix, honestly. As he gets more comfortable with the speed of the game and begins to play with a more relaxed demeanor in the pocket (hopefully with some better blocking) it should work itself out. Not gonna bother with a list of my own because Gavin pretty much nailed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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