coltfaninnewyork Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I think justice is made of glass and is not very tough or good.I like costanzo but is he better suited for right tackle?I think Jake Long is a free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOUR GM Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Constanzo is overrated around here. OK run blocker, but is just as horrible as everyone else on the line in pass protection. I'd move him to RT, or maybe even the interior next year if we can pick up a true LT. He's not the answer, IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Constanzo is overrated around here. OK run blocker, but is just as horrible as everyone else on the line in pass protection. I'd move him to RT, or maybe even the interior next year if we can pick up a true LT. He's not the answer, IMO This. I haven't been all that impressed with Costanzo at LT. I really don't think the position is in any better hands than it was when Charlie Johnson manned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmgww Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Well one thing is for sure...Sowell sucked. He got "Linkenbached" on one play...just terrible. The line is a huge area of need this offseason, and you bet Grigson knows it. His hands were tied this season, and IMO he did the best he could with what $$ he had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I like castanzo, if we picked up a better LT and moved him to RT I'd totally be for that. And Shipley needs to be starting over satele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJACKCOLT Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I really want him to be the answer at LT, but every game at least a couple of times he gets completely blown up,looks good in the run game, hope he continues to improve, if we could sign one of the elite LT availble, we could move him to right tackle and we would be set at tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manning04 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Yea i would like to see a top flight LT and move AC to RT. i would love to take a look at that LT playing in Miami who might not get tagged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Debonair Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 AC is not good should be moved inside. I hope Grigs already told Justice to start looking for work elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarassedOffTheSite Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 They suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dw49 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 The last year of Justice's contract was voided , so he probably won't be back. As far as Sowell , what can you expect from an undrafted rookie ? Problem is when Justice went out , we had two starters missing. It's either Sowell or Link to RT and you know who to LG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 AC is not good should be moved inside. I hope Grigs already told Justice to start looking for work elsewhereRT maybe, but I don't see guard as a option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheartcolt Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 We don't have enough draft picks to sort our line, so we'll need some FA's..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrizzColt Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 If you are a defensive lineman and you are lined up against Constanzo, just run around him and follow the rest of the guys about to sack Luck. I wouldn't even waste time touching him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 We don't have enough draft picks to sort our line, so we'll need some FA's.....I'd rather have proven FAs anyway. Drafted OLine - Ugoh, Pollak, Richard, Thomas, Justice, Iljalana...Even a first round pick is a risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Long got a massive rookie deal. I seriously doubt he comes at all cheap. It's a nice thought, but we're gonna have a pretty expensive rookie class to keep a few years down the road, so we've gotta be choosy. Just because we CAN have a shopping spree doesn't mean we should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWF Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 AC is not overrated. I think most people would admit he's not all-pro but he is a decent player with some flaws. The chance of us finding a better LT is slim right now. Couple that with the fact the rest of the O-line is awful, LT is and shouldnt even be a concern right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixfive Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I like castanzo, if we picked up a better LT and moved him to RT I'd totally be for that. And Shipley needs to be starting over sateleYou hit the nail on the head. Shipley played better at center, I would love to see him start next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwinnettColt Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 We don't have enough draft picks to sort our line, so we'll need some FA's..... We probably will. Grigson is more likely to go after quality FA's than Polian (aside from Vinatieri). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJl Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Castanzo is no Tarik Glenn. But he is the least of the Colts O-line problems! You can't dump everyone. Castanzo is a solid pro. Grigs just needs to find a couple of solid starters at guard and another tackle and we'll have a decent line next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwilli69 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Shore up the LG AND RT spot and this line looks 10,000 times better. Still upgrade at RG is also need but by getting a better LG, you help the LT do his job as well. One thing we can all agree on is this oline is really bad. LT is the least of the troubles though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tark The Shark Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Justice is expendable. Castonzo is good, but RT might be better for him. We need a lot of help on the offensive line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unitaswestand Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I think it is unfair to grade Castonzo unless taking in all factors. Luck, I believe, threw the 4th most passes in the NFL. Luck also runs around a lot and holds the ball a lone time. If Peyton Manning was the QB getting the ball off in 2 seconds, Castonzo would be a Pro Bowl tackle. I think he is good. We need shorter routes and better guards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husker61 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 we have nothing at rt, and ac is not a good lt. he wiffs far too often with speed rushers. i was hoping to see improvement by now, but i just don't think he is capable of being a good lt. move him to the right side and hopefully get a good lt somewhere. the most important thing is to keep luck healthy for 10-15 years, and that won't happen the way things are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husker61 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I think it is unfair to grade Castonzo unless taking in all factors. Luck, I believe, threw the 4th most passes in the NFL. Luck also runs around a lot and holds the ball a lone time. If Peyton Manning was the QB getting the ball off in 2 seconds, Castonzo would be a Pro Bowl tackle. I think he is good. We need shorter routes and better guards. i couldn't disagree more. luck doesn't run around a lot, he moves in the pocket to avoid rushers like the top qb's do. so luck should get destroyed until he is able to make reads as quick as manning? your reasoning would mean that just about every team has an pro bowl lt, all they need is pm as their qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I think it is unfair to grade Castonzo unless taking in all factors. Luck, I believe, threw the 4th most passes in the NFL. Luck also runs around a lot and holds the ball a lone time. If Peyton Manning was the QB getting the ball off in 2 seconds, Castonzo would be a Pro Bowl tackle. I think he is good. We need shorter routes and better guards. Manning wouldn't be getting rid of the ball so fast in this offense....unless he was throwing it away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I think it is unfair to grade Castonzo unless taking in all factors. Luck, I believe, threw the 4th most passes in the NFL. Luck also runs around a lot and holds the ball a lone time. If Peyton Manning was the QB getting the ball off in 2 seconds, Castonzo would be a Pro Bowl tackle. I think he is good. We need shorter routes and better guards. Yeah, I see the impact of having guards like Nicks (ex-Saint, now it is Grubbs), and Evans for the Saints and the lanes they provide Brees to throw, yes, we need to focus on guards because that is the shortest distance to the QB, bar none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJACKCOLT Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Manning wouldn't be getting rid of the ball so fast in this offense....unless he was throwing it awayI agree getting rid of the ball quicker behind this line would just be throwing the ball away. Yeah, I see the impact of having guards like Nicks (ex-Saint, now it is Grubbs), and Evans for the Saints and the lanes they provide Brees to throw, yes, we need to focus on guards because that is the shortest distance to the QB, bar none.Yeah, the way Brees and Brady stand back there and scan the field (taking nothing away from them) but, Luck could be just as lethal, if he had this kind of protection. The sky is the limit with Luck, if you build a good O-line. His td's and pct will go up and the interceptions will go down. Build the O-line and this offense will be unstoppable. Brady has spent his entire career throwing behind great offensive lines, we should afford Luck the same luxury. Build the O-line and the D-line and the rest will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a06cc Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Can anyone say we seen the top prospect offensive lineman Anthony Castonzo today? I'll be talking trash on him next season until I see some toughness from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Blue Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 The thing we all have to realize is that getting a top notch LT will not come cheap or painlessly. We might have a chance to get someone like Barrett Jones (C - Alabama) or Taylor Lewan (OT - Michigan) or even Chance Warmack (G - Alabama) but if we do that it means we'd be sacrificing our defensive needs. Also, free agent OT's that are better than Castonzo will command top dollar eating into the many other needs we have...and we have many. Grigson may be looking at someone like Ryan Clady (Den), Andre Smith(CIN) or Sebastian Vollmer(NE). I'm not entirely sure any others are worthy of LT and would be an improvement over Castonzo. One thing I do know...with only four draft picks in this year's draft and two of those being at the tail end, Grigson will need to be active in free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Of Woe Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I think justice is made of glass and is not very tough or good.I like costanzo but is he better suited for right tackle?I think Jake Long is a free agent. Stop spreading lies. We don't have any OT's. ...or guards.... ....or a center.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 AC is the least of our line problems. He missed a significant amount last year to the point he was essentially a rookie this season. Give him some time to grow now that he has a full season under him and you will be happy. Not every play thats drafted in the 1st round is a plug in and bam all pro player. It takes time and patience. C and LT are 2 positions we can build off of with AC and AQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austriancolt Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Castonzo still has a lot to learn. But don't forget this was his first year with a complete pre season and he was hurt in his rookie season as well and LT is a tough position to play especially if you are playing in a line that is porous like the one the Colts had this year. Winston Justice was serviceable but simply just can't stay healthy. Sowell was awful but as mentioned you can't expect miracles from an undrafted rookie. Linkenbach isn't any good at least serviceable as LG but was terrible as RG and RT. So besides AC we have virtually nothing at the Tackle position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austriancolt Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 The thing we all have to realize is that getting a top notch LT will not come cheap or painlessly. We might have a chance to get someone like Barrett Jones (C - Alabama) or Taylor Lewan (OT - Michigan) or even Chance Warmack (G - Alabama) but if we do that it means we'd be sacrificing our defensive needs. Well, we don't have a choice if you ask me. Too many holes. If we don't address the Offensive Line this offseason we risk another season of heavy hits against our franchise QB and thats something we simply can't afford. I know we could use every pick on the Defense but protecting Luck has to be our priority even if we risk another year of poor defensive play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 The immediate problem is our Guards and Center Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 We don't have enough draft picks to sort our line, so we'll need some FA's.....Not only that if people think a bunch of rookies are going to come in and be the answers to our prayers for the o-line right away they have another thing coming. Honestly if we start a bunch of rookies on the line they will probably be as bad as this line this year the only difference would be that they would be a brighter future ahead of them. I could see them adding a rookie via the draft but I think it will be the free agent road to get most of them. Also don't be shocked if a guy like McGlynn is brought back. I think he's one of those if he is your fourth or fifth best lineman you can live with him but if he has to be your second or third best lineman you are in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 The immediate problem is our Guards and CenterRight when healthy I didn't think Justice was horrible. Much like I said about McGlynn if he's your fourth or fifth best lineman you are okay with him. However, many times this season he was our second best lineman. With that said the fact we voided the last year of his deal when we got him I don't expect him to be back. That tells me that Grigson knew when he got him he was just a stop gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 AC is not overrated. I think most people would admit he's not all-pro but he is a decent player with some flaws. The chance of us finding a better LT is slim right now. Couple that with the fact the rest of the O-line is awful, LT is and shouldnt even be a concern right now.Right he's clearly our best lineman. We need to focus on improving the other positions not his. Like you said he's a pro-bowl left tackle but he can get the job done. If the Colts can land a pro-bowl left tackle great but it not he works. AC would start on just about every team in the league. I think people also need to remember he's only a second year player. He's still growing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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