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  1. Oakland Raiders - Leonard Williams, DL, USC

Cleveland Browns - Amari Cooper, WR, Alabama

Jacksonville Jaguars - Cedric Ogbuehi, OL, Texas A&M

Washington Redskins - Dante Fowler Jr, DE, Florida

New York Jets - Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State

Minnesota Vikings - Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, CB, Oregon

St. Louis Rams - Brandon Scherff, OT, Iowa

Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon

Miami Dolphins - Mario Edwards Jr, DE, Florida State

Cleveland Browns (from Buffalo) - Landon Collins, S, Alabama

Dallas Cowboys - Nelson Agholor, WR, USC

Atlanta Falcons - Shilique Calhoun, DE/OLB, Michigan State

Detroit Lions - PJ Williams, CB, Florida State

Kansas City Chiefs - Rashad Greene, WR, Florida State

Houston Texans - Bryce Petty, QB, Baylor

Tennessee Titans - Brett Hundley, QB, UCLA

Baltimore Ravens - Cameron Erving, OT, Florida State

Chicago Bears - Hroniss Grasu, C, Oregon

Carolina Panthers - Andrus Peat, OT, Stanford,

Arizona Cardinals - Vic Beasley, DE/OLB, Clemson

Pittsburgh Steelers - Jalen Mills, CB, LSU

Cincinnati Bengals - Corey Robinson, OT, South Carolina

New York Giants - Ramik Wilson, LB, Georgia

San Diego Chargers - Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State

San Francisco 49ers - Devonte Fields, DE/OLB, TCU

Indianapolis Colts - Tre’ Jackson, G, Florida State

Philadelphia Eagles - Benardrick McKinney, ILB, Mississippi State

New England Patriots - Randy Gregory, DE, Nebraska

Green Bay Packers - Eric Striker, LB, Oklahoma

Seattle Seahawks - Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia

New Orleans Saints - Shane Ray, DE/OLB, Missouri

Denver Broncos - Michael Bennett, DT, Ohio State

Don't see how another guard makes sense. 

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I think Jameis Winston is going to be a huge bust.  I haven't done any great scouting on him or anything, but a gut feeling from my limited knowledge on him tells me to stay away.

 

Yup. He already has a plethora of character concerns, it pretty unathletic, and has a terrible, elongated throwing motion. 

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No way we'd pass on Gregory.

And unathletic? He's not super fast but he's athletic, and his throwing motion isn't that bad, plus throwing motions are fixable.

Gregory is  a beast. Has Aldon Smith like abilities. De-Commited from Purdue, that one stings.

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No way we'd pass on Gregory.

And unathletic? He's not super fast but he's athletic, and his throwing motion isn't that bad, plus throwing motions are fixable.

 

Well, maybe if he sits for a few years (ala Rodgers who had his entire throwing motion re-configured behind Favre), but throwing motions are more oft not fixed (Stafford, Tebow, Byron Leftwich, Rivers (even tho his is accurate, it's not any better than It was coming out of NC State))

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I'm sick of every future mock draft having us picking another O-lineman in the first round, especially after we took Mewhort.

 

Yeah, agree. I feel it will be a cornerback next year with our first round pick.

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Even McShay doesn't like doing these kind of mocks.    He openly says so on the air.

 

I don't like the Colts pick either.

 

But I don't pay as much attention to which players are assigned to which team as I am who he think is first round talent.

 

At this point in the game,  that's all I care about.    Is a guy first round talent.    Beyond that the guesses are silly and McShay knows it.     He does it because the powers at ESPN ask him to.

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Im all about having a great OL, but we spent recent high picks on the OL in Castonzo, Thorton, and Mewhort. Plus Holmes could turn out to be good for us still.

 

I would much rather get plenty of defensive help at CB and S and then get depth at DL and OLB.

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We could use another pass rusher, Walden can get cut and Mathis will be 34 and will be suspended the first 4 games. Grigson probably won't re-sign Mathis.

 

If Mathis is still producing when his contract ends Grigs would be crazy to let him go. Even if Werner and Newsome develop into beasts I would bring 98 back.

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If Mathis is still producing when his contract ends Grigs would be crazy to let him go. Even if Werner and Newsome develop into beasts I would bring 98 back.

I agree. As far as Wayne and Mathis are concerned, I believe as long as they want to play and they can perform to some degree, then they will have a spot on the team.

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I don't think anyone really pays attention to the Colts need. It's as if when the idea of who the Colts should draft comes up, people just say O-Line by default. I've looked at a few 2015 mocks as well, and it's the same thing in the first round. It's all about the Colts having to go O-Line. It almost seems like a running joke with analysts. "Oh the Colts? Yeah they have to go O-Line". Just like how everyone has been saying the Packers need a TE every year. Its highly annoying.

 

People don't seem to realize how much we've invested in O-Line the past several years;

-2011 1st round pick in Anthony Castonzo

-2013 3rd round pick in Hugh Thorton

-2013 4th round pick in Khaled Holmes

-2014 2nd round pick in Jack Mewhort.

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I would say it depends on how the Offensive Line plays this season. If they can solidify to a Top 15 Offensive Line I would go with CB and S for the first to rounds next year. Toler will once again proof that he can't stay healthy and we could use some more talent of the Safety position even if Howell plays good. 

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I don't think anyone really pays attention to the Colts need. It's as if when the idea of who the Colts should draft comes up, people just say O-Line by default. I've looked at a few 2015 mocks as well, and it's the same thing in the first round. It's all about the Colts having to go O-Line. It almost seems like a running joke with analysts. "Oh the Colts? Yeah they have to go O-Line". Just like how everyone has been saying the Packers need a TE every year. Its highly annoying.

 

People don't seem to realize how much we've invested in O-Line the past several years;

-2011 1st round pick in Anthony Castonzo

-2013 3rd round pick in Hugh Thorton

-2013 4th round pick in Khaled Holmes

-2014 2nd round pick in Jack Mewhort.

 

 

That's really not that much.

 

Browns O-line looks like this

 

 

Thomas - 1st

Bitonio - 2nd

Mack 1st

Pinkston - 5th

Schwartz - 2nd

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I don't think anyone really pays attention to the Colts need. It's as if when the idea of who the Colts should draft comes up, people just say O-Line by default. I've looked at a few 2015 mocks as well, and it's the same thing in the first round. It's all about the Colts having to go O-Line. It almost seems like a running joke with analysts. "Oh the Colts? Yeah they have to go O-Line". Just like how everyone has been saying the Packers need a TE every year. Its highly annoying.

 

People don't seem to realize how much we've invested in O-Line the past several years;

-2011 1st round pick in Anthony Castonzo

-2013 3rd round pick in Hugh Thorton

-2013 4th round pick in Khaled Holmes

-2014 2nd round pick in Jack Mewhort.

 

The reason analysts don't realize how much we've invested is because Thornton and Holmes have yet to prove themselves.

 

From the outside looking in,  they're at best unproven, or at worst, possible busts.    You know,  what a fair number of people on this very website also believe.  

 

We've had very, very poor line play in Luck's first two years.....    if and when the line shows it's at least average, of not better than average,  THEN our o-line will get more respect and recognition from everyone....

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Even McShay doesn't like doing these kind of mocks.    He openly says so on the air.

 

I don't like the Colts pick either.

 

But I don't pay as much attention to which players are assigned to which team as I am who he think is first round talent.

 

At this point in the game,  that's all I care about.    Is a guy first round talent.    Beyond that the guesses are silly and McShay knows it.     He does it because the powers at ESPN ask him to.

I watch a lot of PAC 12 or whatever they are now I tell you a guy I like keep an eye on from UW is Josh Shirley reminds me of Mathis a little bit already seems to have the strip sack down. He isn't first round talent yet but watch him vs your Cardinal

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The reason analysts don't realize how much we've invested is because Thornton and Holmes have yet to prove themselves.

 

From the outside looking in,  they're at best unproven, or at worst, possible busts.    You know,  what a fair number of people on this very website also believe.  

 

We've had very, very poor line play in Luck's first two years.....    if and when the line shows it's at least average, of not better than average,  THEN our o-line will get more respect and recognition from everyone....

 

I was rewatching the Seattle game the other day, looking for a few things in particular. A stat was shown that I found quite surprising: The Colts were averaging 150 rushing yards/game through the first 4 games of the season. Yeah.

 

Against the Raiders, 127 yards. Dolphins, 133 yards. Niners, 184 yards. Jags, 157 yards. And then we gained 109 on the Seahawks (a very well-earned 109 yards, by the way). 

 

That's with Donald Thomas going out early against Miami, Satele being injured a couple games, McGlynn kicking in at C, Thornton at LG, etc. Basically a makeshift offensive line in the first quarter of the season, and we still had a very productive rushing attack.

 

We got rid of Satele and McGlynn, easily the worst C/RG tandem in the league. It will not be hard for even inexperienced youngsters to play better than them. Our offensive line can take a big step forward if we get this right. I think there's lots of room for optimism.

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I was rewatching the Seattle game the other day, looking for a few things in particular. A stat was shown that I found quite surprising: The Colts were averaging 150 rushing yards/game through the first 4 games of the season. Yeah.

 

Against the Raiders, 127 yards. Dolphins, 133 yards. Niners, 184 yards. Jags, 157 yards. And then we gained 109 on the Seahawks (a very well-earned 109 yards, by the way). 

 

That's with Donald Thomas going out early against Miami, Satele being injured a couple games, McGlynn kicking in at C, Thornton at LG, etc. Basically a makeshift offensive line in the first quarter of the season, and we still had a very productive rushing attack.

 

We got rid of Satele and McGlynn, easily the worst C/RG tandem in the league. It will not be hard for even inexperienced youngsters to play better than them. Our offensive line can take a big step forward if we get this right. I think there's lots of room for optimism.

 

Agree,  there is room for optimism.   I'm sorry my post you were responding to didn't say that more specifically.

 

I do remember us running the ball very well in the first month of the season.   And then the switch flipped and the final 3 months were dreadful.    Our final numbers that we ended up with were very poor, not something we'd ever want in any year, so those last 3 months of the regular season must've been as bad as anyone could imagine.

 

When we have a solid running game this offense will hum.   It will be fun to watch.   We'll be difficult to defend.   I look forward to seeing how this all plays out....

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That's really not that much.

 

Browns O-line looks like this

 

 

Thomas - 1st

Bitonio - 2nd

Mack 1st

Pinkston - 5th

Schwartz - 2nd

Do you think they'll leave Schwartz @ RT?  I'd think they'd install Bitonio at RT and move Schwartz inside, as they don't seem all that enamored with Schwartz as the immediate or long term answer as an edge protector.

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Do you think they'll leave Schwartz @ RT?  I'd think they'd install Bitonio at RT and move Schwartz inside, as they don't seem all that enamored with Schwartz as the immediate or long term answer as an edge protector.

 

Unlikely they play a rookie at tackle. Everything I've read says he has been playing both guard spots in camp. They might eventually move him out there, but not yet. 

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  1. Oakland Raiders - Leonard Williams, DL, USC
  2. Cleveland Browns - Amari Cooper, WR, Alabama
  3. Jacksonville Jaguars - Cedric Ogbuehi, OL, Texas A&M
  4. Washington Redskins - Dante Fowler Jr, DE, Florida
  5. New York Jets - Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State
  6. Minnesota Vikings - Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, CB, Oregon
  7. St. Louis Rams - Brandon Scherff, OT, Iowa
  8. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon
  9. Miami Dolphins - Mario Edwards Jr, DE, Florida State
  10. Cleveland Browns (from Buffalo) - Landon Collins, S, Alabama
  11. Dallas Cowboys - Nelson Agholor, WR, USC
  12. Atlanta Falcons - Shilique Calhoun, DE/OLB, Michigan State
  13. Detroit Lions - PJ Williams, CB, Florida State
  14. Kansas City Chiefs - Rashad Greene, WR, Florida State
  15. Houston Texans - Bryce Petty, QB, Baylor
  16. Tennessee Titans - Brett Hundley, QB, UCLA
  17. Baltimore Ravens - Cameron Erving, OT, Florida State
  18. Chicago Bears - Hroniss Grasu, C, Oregon
  19. Carolina Panthers - Andrus Peat, OT, Stanford,
  20. Arizona Cardinals - Vic Beasley, DE/OLB, Clemson
  21. Pittsburgh Steelers - Jalen Mills, CB, LSU
  22. Cincinnati Bengals - Corey Robinson, OT, South Carolina
  23. New York Giants - Ramik Wilson, LB, Georgia
  24. San Diego Chargers - Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State
  25. San Francisco 49ers - Devonte Fields, DE/OLB, TCU
  26. Indianapolis Colts - Tre’ Jackson, G, Florida State
  27. Philadelphia Eagles - Benardrick McKinney, ILB, Mississippi State
  28. New England Patriots - Randy Gregory, DE, Nebraska
  29. Green Bay Packers - Eric Striker, LB, Oklahoma
  30. Seattle Seahawks - Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia
  31. New Orleans Saints - Shane Ray, DE/OLB, Missouri
  32. Denver Broncos - Michael Bennett, DT, Ohio State

Don't see how another guard makes sense. 

 

 

 

huh?    Running up the gut, and protecting AL does not make sense?   Take a peak at the games again from last season.  

 

Just saying....  the interior OL was a disaster.   

 

This team is VERY close to being really good on O.     The ONLY thing holding them up is ;the interior line.  

 

I would draft OL and or DL every year top 2.      As long as AL is the QB of course.

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huh?    Running up the gut, and protecting AL does not make sense?   Take a peak at the games again from last season. 

 

Not when we've invested in Donald Thomas, Hugh Thornton, and Jack Mewhort.

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Put some investment into Indy's OL...     

 

And AL will be a force of nature.    I really believe it.      He is working "miracles" with what he has.  Which is total garbage up the middle.

 

Same old song and dance here in INDY.    Let the "STUD" QB bail you out game after game...       ?????

GET A DANG OL and D.   Please Jimmy?

 

TY Hiltons can be found in the 3rd round...     A Castonzo's cannot. 

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Exactly...     you just don't decide to draft a "first" round T and get a ten year starter.   ...       Never happens that way (50 / 50)  at best.

 

A team must invest in the OL and DL, via draft and FA....        One pick will not solve ANYTHING.    Indy is trying,  but the work is not done.

 

 

This team is really close...      JMO

We also invested heavily in Tony U and Ben I. If they would have produced as expected we wouldn't be having this discussion.

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It's just impossible to know what position would make the most sense when we haven't seen this football team play out the 2014 season. Suppose Thornton, Holmes, and Mewhort play excellent on the interior OL - I don't see us going with a guard with our first pick. Suppose Howell plays really well and Toler stays healthy but our O-line is ranked 21st in the league - then I see O-line as the bigger need. To me right now our most likely positions of need are in the secondary. Linebacker and O-line are also very real possibilities. But we need to watch the season unfold before we act like we know anything for sure.

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