manningstheman Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 JMV's insider at Anderson says that Harnish looked better then Luck right now. Infact, Luck looked a little confused at times. Lets not forget that Harnish was out for awhile when he got hurt early at rookie minicamp. What are your thoughts. I am a Norwell grad. So, my opinion is not valid. Harnish is gold to us up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Luck has been great, so if Harnish looks better, maybe he can be trade bait. Chandler doesn't compare to Luck at all, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyD4U Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Is it April 1st? Asinine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil J Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Harnish is gold to us up here.Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Debonair Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 JMV's insider at Anderson says that Harnish looked better then Luck right now. Infact, Luck looked a little confused at times. Lets not forget that Harnish was out for awhile when he got hurt early at rookie minicamp. What are your thoughts. I am a Norwell grad. So, my opinion is not valid. Harnish is gold to us up here.Harnish is this you? No writing about yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Horseman Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Nate Dunlevy reported the exact opposite after the first day of camp... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfr Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I just learned who JMV is yesterday. In the past 2 days I have heard Ben better get better or he will be cut and now Harnish looks better then Luck. Based on these 2 statements..... I choose to ignore whats coming from JMV until I get some confirmation of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manningstheman Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 LolAnd that is funny because? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manningstheman Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 I just learned who JMV is yesterday. In the past 2 days I have heard Ben better get better or he will be cut and now Harnish looks better then Luck. Based on these 2 statements..... I choose to ignore whats coming from JMV until I get some confirmation of this.He is also the first person in this region that said he had inside sources that Peyton was going to be traded. So listen..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsPacersfan Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 ! Really? Who called in and said that? LOL. I bet it was probably old Billy goat and his son the Polians. Only they will actually say that. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum88 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 He is also the first person in this region that said he had inside sources that Peyton was going to be traded. So listen.....And Peyton was traded? He was cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peytonparker Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 He is also the first person in this region that said he had inside sources that Peyton was going to be traded. So listen.....Peyton didn't get traded he was released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manningstheman Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 Umm ....really, this is the difference. He was released and not traded. We have gone over and over again the difference with the Colts trading him or releasing him. Get on point people. The release was better for the bottom line them a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girlzarefanstoo Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Colts' fans need to be realistic - Luck is a rookie. Yeah, he's the first round pick, but in the end he's still a rookie QB. He'll look great one day and terrible another. Most rookies don't have to take the burden on their shoulders from the start. He's going to get a baptism by fire... Chances are it will be a couple years before you really know what you've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfr Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 He is also the first person in this region that said he had inside sources that Peyton was going to be traded. So listen.....I heard that too yesterday but with new management I am not sure his contacts are still employed by the Colts. I find it hard to believe that Harnish looks better then Luck............. from the numbers I saw posted for Luck as far as completions. I bet Harnish only took 10 snaps compared to Lucks 75 snaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manningstheman Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 I am behind Luck, first off. But, all I am saying is we should all be happy with two QB's that can get the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyD4U Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 You're posting that Chandler Harnish is better than Andrew Luck and we're the ones off point? I don't think so..I was at camp on Sunday and I can tell you that Andrew Luck and Chandler Harnish are WORLDS apart...and not in the way you are stating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manningstheman Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 You're posting that Chandler Harnish is better than Andrew Luck and we're the ones off point? I don't think so..I was at camp on Sunday and I can tell you that Andrew Luck and Chandler Harnish are WORLDS apart...and not in the way you are stating.Maybe you are right, but I did say I am a Harnish supporter. You have a tied Luck in you pic. Funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 If more than one anonymous "insider" says this then I'll start paying attention. For now, what a load of rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSO Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Not buying it until I hear it from Rob Lowe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyman411 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I almost wonder if JMV insider didn't mean "looks better" as in attractive, because there's no way he's a better QB than Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manningstheman Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 I heard that too yesterday but with new management I am not sure his contacts are still employed by the Colts. I find it hard to believe that Harnish looks better then Luck............. from the numbers I saw posted for Luck as far as completions. I bet Harnish only took 10 snaps compared to Lucks 75 snaps.Yes, he did say something in the range of 7 or 8 out or 10. Just to be honest here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Lebron Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I listened to the segment on 1070. Conrad was joking when he made the comment. He noted that Harnish had the play of the day, throwing a 70 yard bomb. However he raved about Luck's perfomance but said he threw the ball underneath a lot. Please do not take this post seriously. Conrad was being sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 JMV's insider at Anderson says that Harnish looked better then Luck right now. Infact, Luck looked a little confused at times. Lets not forget that Harnish was out for awhile when he got hurt early at rookie minicamp. What are your thoughts. I am a Norwell grad. So, my opinion is not valid. Harnish is gold to us up here.Interesting. I listened to Sirius today, they were at camp. Everyone they brought on, from the GM to Pagano to Arians, to every player raved about Luck. I don't think I heard the word "Harnish" one time. But it's good to know he's getting some snaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMPHBITEU Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 vs. I'd say Luck's beard looks better. Or at least it used to. Perhaps that is what OP Is referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Im guessing Pagano is throwing much tougher defensive looks at Luck than he is against Harnish. Just a hunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbfanatic Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 OK..had to sign up to post when I read this. Andrew Luck is the QB. There is no question and he would be the QB IF all three were dead even... talent wise... because of the investment in him, not only in $$, but as the face of the franchise. Those who belittle Harnish must not have seen him play. He has everything that Luck has... on a lesser scale in most areas and equal in a couple. Given the same team to lead and playing against the same defenses, Luck would likely win about 7 of 10 contests. He would not win them all and bet he would be the first to say that... if the question were posed. The Colts are very fortunate to have Andrew Luck and he is the best man for the job, but not by the margin that some seem to think. Harnish better than Luck? No. But, time after time he took his team down the field to win when he needed to...he is a great leader and clutch performer and we are "lucky" to have him also. Unfortunately for him, he will get too few snaps as a backup to improve very much. His likely future is elsewhere after 2-3 seasons of backup work. All imo, yours may well vary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Please remember, not every Colts fan lives in Indiana. So, for those who don't..... who is JMV??As to the claim.... I doubt anyone looked at those two guys for an entire practice and came away with that view. So, a guy looked over for a little while, saw Harnish look good, and so Luck looking not so good on a play. And he posted it as if he was offering rare insight.Not every member of the media knows how to evaluate talent. I'd say a fair number have little idea. Think of the complements that have been said about Luck in the last 48 hours or so... and now some member of the media comes out and says Harnish looks better than Luck.Come on now. It's not your fault, you're only repeating what somebody said... but, come on now.As someone here said... it's not April 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 OK..had to sign up to post when I read this. Andrew Luck is the QB. There is no question and he would be the QB IF all three were dead even... talent wise... because of the investment in him, not only in $$, but as the face of the franchise. Those who belittle Harnish must not have seen him play. He has everything that Luck has... on a lesser scale in most areas and equal in a couple. Given the same team to lead and playing against the same defenses, Luck would likely win about 7 of 10 contests. He would not win them all and bet he would be the first to say that... if the question were posed. The Colts are very fortunate to have Andrew Luck and he is the best man for the job, but not by the margin that some seem to think. Harnish better than Luck? No. But, time after time he took his team down the field to win when he needed to...he is a great leader and clutch performer and we are "lucky" to have him also. Unfortunately for him, he will get too few snaps as a backup to improve very much. His likely future is elsewhere after 2-3 seasons of backup work. All imo, yours may well vary.Hey, I love Harnish, after all he is a Hoosier. But leading a team to wins in the MAC are a little different than doing it in a major conference, He was Mr. Irrelevant for a reason.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fx Stryker Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Luck has been great, so if Harnish looks better, maybe he can be trade bait. Chandler doesn't compare to Luck at all, though.IF, let's make it known this is an IF, Harnish happens to be better why would you trade him away?Hey, I love Harnish, after all he is a Hoosier. But leading a team to wins in the MAC are a little different than doing it in a major conference, He was Mr. Irrelevant for a reason..Cause the PAC is on level with the other big divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 IF, let's make it known this is an IF, Harnish happens to be better why would you trade him away?Cause the PAC is on level with the other big divisions.Other than the SEC, yes. Certainly on a much higher level than the MAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Almost everybody else is saying Luck is better, and I saw both of them today, and Luck looked better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Good. We can use him as trade bait in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltswarriors Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Only things I've heard about Luck have been amazing.Call me crazy, but I think Luck gets the nod here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fx Stryker Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Other than the SEC, yes. Certainly on a much higher level than the MACI'm not saying the MAC is better, but the PAC is last to the main six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireJimCaldwell Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 It wouldn't matter if it were true.Do you think Pagano is going to cross Jimmy's BFF like that? Not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodLuck Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I listened to the segment on 1070. Conrad was joking when he made the comment. He noted that Harnish had the play of the day, throwing a 70 yard bomb. However he raved about Luck's perfomance but said he threw the ball underneath a lot. Please do not take this post seriously. Conrad was being sarcastic.Did people read this post?And I have no clue who JMV is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentMc11 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 JMV is a talker. Gets some right....gets some wrong. If Chandler Harnish looks great I am proud if this rookie 3rd stringer. Stanton threw exceptionally well I thought today!Tomorrow is August Fools Day. Thus the goal of this post MUST have been to make Mr. Irrelevant Mr Relevant! Humorous to a T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buccolts Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Please remember, not every Colts fan lives in Indiana. So, for those who don't..... who is JMV??As to the claim.... I doubt anyone looked at those two guys for an entire practice and came away with that view. So, a guy looked over for a little while, saw Harnish look good, and so Luck looking not so good on a play. And he posted it as if he was offering rare insight.Not every member of the media knows how to evaluate talent. I'd say a fair number have little idea. Think of the complements that have been said about Luck in the last 48 hours or so... and now some member of the media comes out and says Harnish looks better than Luck.Come on now. It's not your fault, you're only repeating what somebody said... but, come on now.As someone here said... it's not April 1st.JMV is an Indy sports talk radio host.Never heard him but have heard of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieG Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Wait......what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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