Frank fired by Panthers (Merged)

[runthepost]

Well Frank was fired this morning

[runthepost]

 

[Chucklez]

Way too soon and way too harsh. 

I know we all know Frank's shortcomings, but wow that is just a ridiculously heavy handed approach. How could he be expected to implement anything meaningful in such a short time - especially if the rumors are true that he wanted Stroud originally.

I hopw he lands as an OC somewhere or even another HC job.

[CheezyColt]

Wow.

[Indianapolis-Colts-Fan]

Should have never been hired and never should have taken the job. 

[Chrisaaron1023]

oh woooowww

[Indianapolis-Colts-Fan]

6 minutes ago, runthepost said:

 

does this mean their OC never started calling plays? 

[Lancer1]

Too bad the GM isn't going with him - Frank may have sealed his own fate by taking over playcalling which got him fired from here, but the GM had the #1 pick and a choice between Young, Stroud, Richardson & Levis and he picked the worst of all of them first overall, and that's not Frank's fault unless he personally lobbied for Young, which I doubt is the case.

[NewColtsFan]

I think Frank is the fall guy for a very bad and meddlesome owner.   But hopefully, the Panthers don’t mess with his money.  
 

 

[bluephantom87]

 

Off topic about our former hc who's been fired less than one season in.

[RollerColt]

7 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

I think Frank is the fall guy for a very bad and meddlesome owner.   But hopefully, the Panthers don’t mess with his money.  
 

 

It's brutal... Fired midseason back to back years... I feel for him, but his offense was doing Bryce no favors... 

 

And I see this as the Panthers desperate to get out of the top of the draft since they're giving it to Chicago. Just a bad situation all around. 

[VikingsFanInChennai]

Oops... 12 weeks!

 

And no first round draft pick. 

 

Worse, tanking for Chicago's first round pick. 

[RollerColt]

Back to back mid-season firings. Brutal. 

[coltsva]

Surprised they didn’t hire Greg Olsen to finish out the season… Too soon? 😁

[Jonmal7]

Im not surprised. Pathers had 9th overall pick last year, now this year they are worst in the league. We went from bottom tier last year to a positive record in a wildcard after 12 weeks. Dude needs to stay as an OC. Hes not HC material.

[RollerColt]

2 minutes ago, VikingsFanInChennai said:

Oops... 12 weeks!

 

And no first round draft pick. 

 

Worse, tanking for Chicago's first round pick. 

I think that's the only reason for the change to be honest. They're desperate to win a few more games so Chicago doesn't have the #1 overall with their pick. 

 

This whole sequence could go down as one of the biggest blunders in recent NFL history. Trading away everything, including Moore to get Young. 

[Tsarquise]

A bit too soon. Wish him the best.

[throwing BBZ]

 

 Oh Carolina, "there is a sucker born every minute"!

 I would bet Frank heavily preferred the QB they picked too. 

  Sirianni made him look decent, and Rivers did also. 

  

 

  

[#12.]

No problem.  Once Brian Decker starts to interview former girlfriends and wiretap player's grandmas, the Panthers will turn it around.

[RollerColt]

Also gotta say, that final play yesterday where they threw a screen on a 4th down in their own territory was probably one of the most "we give up" 4th down attempts I've seen from Frank. They might as well have just punted the ball. That play alone could've been the final straw. 

[NewColtsFan]

12 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

It's brutal... Fired midseason back to back years... I feel for him, but his offense was doing Bryce no favors... 

 

And I see this as the Panthers desperate to get out of the top of the draft since they're giving it to Chicago. Just a bad situation all around. 

What’s the famous quote from former coach Jerry Glanville?    The NFL stands for NOT FOR LONG if you’re not winning!  

 

I don’t know if Frank retires or tries to be an OC, but even that may not happen.  I’m sure his reputation has taken a beating these last two years, especially this one.  

[runthepost]

I started a topic in the NFL general forum

[RollerColt]

Just now, NewColtsFan said:

What’s the famous quote from former coach Jerry Glanville?    The NFL stands for NOT FOR LONG if you’re not winning!  

 

I don’t know if Frank retires or tries to be an OC, but even that may not happen.  I’m sure his reputation has taken a beating these last two years, especially this one.  

And I agree with you on the fact it's not on him alone. 

 

Tepper and his GM signed off on the idea of moving up the draft and giving away their future to draft Young. A strategy that almost never works out. But I suppose Tepper isn't much of a historian of the NFL or even knows of the common pitfalls such as trading up. 

[#12.]

Oh boy, Eagles travel to Carolina next year.  Siriani will take the "that was for Frank Reich" act down there.

[Rhodelesstraveled]

Eberflus will be canned soon too.  Another indictment on Ballard for me. 

[NewColtsFan]

Im not surprised this happened today.   I read last night that the owner, Pepper, stormed out of the locker room after the game loudly and slamming doors.  I think the writing was on the wall when that happens.   I just want them to pay Frank his money.   That’s all I care about at this point. 

[#12.]

2 minutes ago, Rhodelesstraveled said:

Eberflus will be canned soon too.  Another indictment on Ballard for me. 

 

Wonder if Jonathan Gannon will make it to 2024.

[RollerColt]

1 minute ago, #12. said:

 

Wonder if Jonathan Gannon will make it to 2024.

As long as Murray makes him look good these last few weeks. I think Eberflus and Belichick will be fired immediately at the end of the season. 

[ColtStrong2013]

7 minutes ago, Rhodelesstraveled said:

Eberflus will be canned soon too.  Another indictment on Ballard for me. 

how is that an indictment on Ballard? 
 

That his defensive coordinator that was wildly successful here was hired as a head coach elsewhere and didn’t succeed? 

Just now, ColtStrong2013 said:

how is that an indictment on Ballard? 
 

That his defensive coordinator that was wildly successful here was hired as a head coach elsewhere and didn’t succeed? 

seems like Ballard got the current head coaching situation right… 

[Lancer1]

So now Frank is being paid not to coach 2 different teams - humiliating, but financially profitable. 

[RollerColt]

1 minute ago, ColtStrong2013 said:

how is that an indictment on Ballard? 
 

That his defensive coordinator that was wildly successful here was hired as a head coach elsewhere and didn’t succeed? 

Just a troll doing troll things. I'm shocked they're even here after a win. Usually they skulk in the shadows until the next loss. 

[bluephantom87]

 

It didn't help either with what D Ryans has done with the Texans or what Shane has done with the Colts MINUS his star rookie qb in the making. I'm not sure he's even an upper tier oc. He was fired in San Diego because of the offense that lacked explosive plays and in Philly he was oc by title only because hc Peterson called the plays.

 

Early in his Panther tenure some fans were calling for Frank to relinquish playcalling duties (sound familiar) and ultimately some in their management agreed as Frank reluctantly gave up those duties after saying that's not what the team needed at the time. It was announced a couple of weeks ago that Frank had reclaimed those duties but continued to garner subpar results. I wish Frank well because by ALL accounts he's truly a good person.

[RollerColt]

1 minute ago, bluephantom87 said:

I wish Frank well because by ALL accounts he's truly a good person.

This 100%. No hard feelings against him because he's a great man. I hope he finds peace. 

[DougDew]

Funny thing, his offense looks that same as it did here.  But he also suffers from having the same bad WRs and Oline problems, not to mention questions at QB.  

 

[DougDew]

38 minutes ago, Jonmal7 said:

Pathers had 9th overall pick last year,

Tells you that they were a bad team going into the draft, then gave up draft picks and a good weapon for a young QB to have to then take the worst young QB of the 4 in contention.  JMO.

[chad72]

27 minutes ago, #12. said:

Oh boy, Eagles travel to Carolina next year.  Siriani will take the "that was for Frank Reich" act down there.

 

Sirianni's acts are getting old to me. 

 

2 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Tells you that they were a bad team going into the draft, then gave up draft picks and a good weapon for a young QB to have to then take the worst young QB of the 4 in contention.  JMO.

 

The GM needs to go as well. I really doubt that would have been Frank's pick, if he were given the choice. I bet it is a matter of time.

[IinD]

16 minutes ago, Lancer1 said:

So now Frank is being paid not to coach 2 different teams - humiliating, but financially profitable. 

[RollerColt]

2 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Tells you that they were a bad team going into the draft, then gave up draft picks and a good weapon for a young QB to have to then take the worst young QB of the 4 in contention.  JMO.

There are few jobs in the NFL for head coaching, so I'm sure they'll have interested candidates... But for me personally, I would not want to work with David Tepper and his impatience unless I was given a guaranteed money contract. 

 

That is a nightmare/disaster situation going on over there. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

24 minutes ago, #12. said:

 

Wonder if Jonathan Gannon will make it to 2024.

Gannon will be fine.  

Not saying Levis is going to be great or good but imagine if they had just stayed at nine took Levis and kept all their offensive weapons.

[chad72]

44 minutes ago, coltsva said:

Surprised they didn’t hire Greg Olsen to finish out the season… Too soon? 😁

 

If Olsen takes his wig off, he might get the nod from the owner, just for clicks and kicks