[Schefter] Colts trade Wentz to Washington for 2 3d round picks

[smittywerb]

Just now, jvan1973 said:

If Ballard didn't want him,   why did he trade for him?

guess he put his trust in Reich and actually believed he could get wentz back to mvp form.  How many times have we done things off the whim because we trusted a friend or partner and it turns out we should’ve trusted our gut.

[Superman]

Just now, danlhart87 said:

 

 

 

 

 

[jvan1973]

Just now, smittywerb said:

guess he put his trust in Reich and actually believed he could get wentz back to mvp form.  How many times have we done things off the whim because we trusted a friend or partner and it turns out we should’ve trusted our gut.

Never when my job and reputation are on the line

[lollygagger8]

Props to Ballard for getting more than a ham sammich outta Wentz! 

 

[Superman]

@danlhart87 Do we just watch all the same shows over and over again? 

[Thunderbolt]

At least we recoup some of the loss for trading him, his contract, draft picks were offset by obtaining two third round picks and flip flopping our 2nd round.  BTW where does Wash pick on the 2nd round?

[Never_Quit]

I do NOT want to trade for a QB that can't go all the way. I dont think that Jimmy G looks much different than Carson on a team without Deabo, Kittle, Aiyuk, etc. 

 

F' it. Roll with Sam. Either you find out if you got a diamond in the rough or we'll have a high pick in '23.  

 

No more bandaids. I'm sick of it. 

[Mr.Debonair]

24 minutes ago, AustinnKaine said:

 

Wonder what undrafted WRs we can sign with all that

[IinD]

To me it sounds like Jim was done with Wentz probably more than the other two (Frank and Chris) and said screw that get him out of here regardless of how, just do it.

 

I don't think it would be fair if Carson is labeled a cancer because of this though.

 

His hero ball and repeated simple mistakes is what got him gone.

[smittywerb]

1 minute ago, jvan1973 said:

Liking a meme featuring one of his best friends doesn't mean he didn't like Carson

sure wasn’t an endorsement of his current qb either

[chad72]

Kudos to Ballard for cutting his losses, which is why this would be the 2nd worst trade in the last decade for the Colts behind the Trent Richardson trade with Grigson. 

 

So, do we give Ballard points for trying like Grigson did with OL and free agents or call a spade like it is?

[NDSU_Guy]

1 hour ago, tvturner said:

Jimmy Garoppolo is a much better quarterback than Carson Wentz

 

Just a reminder.

I really hope we dont get the chance to find out.  Jimmy is not a better QB than Wentz.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Looks like Jimmy G trade will happen soon. But  where does he land. I don’t like his salary after dumping Wentz and giving up more draft picks.

 

 

[Flash7]

So many thoughts about this.

 

1. It's now clear that the Eagles got the better end of the initial Wentz trade. No question about it. Crystal clear.

 

2. We traded for a QB that struggled in 2020 and helped him have a better 2021, and then got less for him in return. That is a losing trade in the grand scheme of things. I understand there is nuance involved, but taking a step back and looking at it, it looks bad.

 

3. Once again the Colts are amongst the teams with the highest cap space. How many of you have confidence that Ballard will spend it to acquire impactful FAs? We've seen how this has played out in the past. I understand that Irsay has lit a fire under him, supposedly, so let's see how it goes, but I think we sit on the money and continue to pay some of our own over time.

 

4. We now have holes at QB, WR, TE, OL, DE, CB, and S.

[runthepost]

7 minutes ago, smittywerb said:

As I said before, TY liking that meme of luck was enough for me.

Post the meme link

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 minute ago, NDSU_Guy said:

I really hope we dont get the chance to find out.  Jimmy is not a better QB than Wentz.

I am ok with it if the plan is to try and get a QB in the draft. 

[Mr.Debonair]

6 minutes ago, smittywerb said:

guess he put his trust in Reich and actually believed he could get wentz back to mvp form.  How many times have we done things off the whim because we trusted a friend or partner and it turns out we should’ve trusted our gut.

Don’t waste your time. He knows it all and is never wrong

[smittywerb]

1 minute ago, runthepost said:

Post the meme link

https://horseshoeheroes.com/2022/01/10/ty-hilton-carson-wentz-colts-loss/amp/

[chad72]

1 minute ago, NDSU_Guy said:

I really hope we don't get the chance to find out.  Jimmy is not a better QB than Wentz.

 

Jimmy G, with a run game will take the layups and is deadly in the short and intermediate game. That fits the Reich offense better than the hero ball Wentz played. So, in a nutshell, for Reich's offense, yes, he is a better QB than Wentz. 

[ChuggaBeer]

2 minutes ago, TaylorTheStudMuffin said:

Looks like Jimmy G trade will happen soon. But  where does he land. I don’t like his salary after dumping Wentz and giving up more draft picks.

 

 

Well my wife agrees.  He's a pretty man that's for sure 

[Derakynn]

Not big on the Jimbo train. Don't really see it as an upgrade from Wentz (mediocre). Rather gamble it out on Ehlinger or a FA TBH. No reason to waste more picks on definitive mediocrity.

[Fisticuffs111]

Pascal with a “* is getting old” tweet.

 

Honestly that one irks me more than Leonard’s tweet. Like we gave the guy a much more sizable role than I think he would’ve gotten anywhere else. Was constantly praised by Ballard and Reich.

 

Bet he’s partly just jaded that we’re not making him a priority re-sign.

 

 

[AKB]

3 minutes ago, Flash7 said:

So many thoughts about this.

 

1. It's now clear that the Eagles got the better end of the initial Wentz trade. No question about it. Crystal clear.

 

2. We traded for a QB that struggled in 2020 and helped him have a better 2021, and then got less for him in return. That is a losing trade in the grand scheme of things. I understand there is nuance involved, but taking a step back and looking at it, it looks bad.

 

3. Once again the Colts are amongst the teams with the highest cap space. How many of you have confidence that Ballard will spend it to acquire impactful FAs? We've seen how this has played out in the past. I understand that Irsay has lit a fire under him, supposedly, so let's see how it goes, but I think we sit on the money and continue to pay some of our own over time.

 

4. We now have holes at QB, WR, TE, OL, DE, CB, and S.

spilled milk

Just now, Fisticuffs111 said:

Pascal with a “* is getting old” tweet.

 

Honestly that one irks me more than Leonard’s tweet. Like we gave the guy a much more sizable role than I think he would’ve gotten anywhere else. Was constantly praised by Ballard and Reich.

 

Bet he’s partly just jaded that we’re not making him a priority re-sign.

 

 

Pascal is not good, he can leave. 

[smittywerb]

I do not want Jimmy.  Please no.  Not because he isn’t better, but I think we have a chance to grab someone better next year in the draft.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 minute ago, Derakynn said:

Not big on the Jimbo train. Don't really see it as an upgrade from Wentz (mediocre). Rather gamble it out on Ehlinger or a FA TBH. No reason to waste more picks on definitive mediocrity.

If the goal is to draft this year or next Jimmy doesn’t make sense. It makes more sense for Trubisky or Mariota.

[ChuggaBeer]

1 minute ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

Pascal with a “* is getting old” tweet.

 

Honestly that one irks me more than Leonard’s tweet. Like we gave the guy a much more sizable role than I think he would’ve gotten anywhere else. Was constantly praised by Ballard and Reich.

 

Bet he’s partly just jaded that we’re not making him a priority re-sign.

 

 

Well Zach won't be back.      Can't pull a Vendershank and expect to get resigned

 

[stitches]

If we go for Jimmy G, we will be having the exact same discussions next year...  If we are truly going for Jimmy G, Ballard will never learn and the Colts will continue being mediocre for the foreseeable future. 

[Flash7]

1 minute ago, AustinnKaine said:

spilled milk

Cream Cheese.

[smittywerb]

8 minutes ago, Never_Quit said:

I do NOT want to trade for a QB that can't go all the way. I dont think that Jimmy G looks much different than Carson on a team without Deabo, Kittle, Aiyuk, etc. 

 

F' it. Roll with Sam. Either you find out if you got a diamond in the rough or we'll have a high pick in '23.  

 

No more bandaids. I'm sick of it. 

I hope this is what we do.  At this point I’m praying.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Wow

 

 

[Fisticuffs111]

1 minute ago, stitches said:

If we go for Jimmy G, we will be having the exact same discussions next year...  If we are truly going for Jimmy G, Ballard will never learn and the Colts will continue being mediocre for the foreseeable future. 

Man, I hope it works out if we get him but I just imagine he’ll get hurt again. Especially if we’re dealing with a subpar LT situation again.

[cdgacoltsfan]

6 minutes ago, Flash7 said:

So many thoughts about this.

 

1. It's now clear that the Eagles got the better end of the initial Wentz trade. No question about it. Crystal clear.

 

2. We traded for a QB that struggled in 2020 and helped him have a better 2021, and then got less for him in return. That is a losing trade in the grand scheme of things. I understand there is nuance involved, but taking a step back and looking at it, it looks bad.

 

3. Once again the Colts are amongst the teams with the highest cap space. How many of you have confidence that Ballard will spend it to acquire impactful FAs? We've seen how this has played out in the past. I understand that Irsay has lit a fire under him, supposedly, so let's see how it goes, but I think we sit on the money and continue to pay some of our own over time.

 

4. We now have holes at QB, WR, TE, OL, DE, CB, and S.

We have a solid punter though!

[ChuggaBeer]

1 minute ago, stitches said:

If we go for Jimmy G, we will be having the exact same discussions next year...  If we are truly going for Jimmy G, Ballard will never learn and the Colts will continue being mediocre for the foreseeable future. 

Well.   He would have the ability to grab a QB in the 23 draft and then trade Jimmy afterwards. Just throwing things at the white board

 

[Fisticuffs111]

Just now, TaylorTheStudMuffin said:

Wow

 

 

lol Flores gets his guy.

[Zoltan]

Looks like the 3rd round next year can become a 2nd round pick depending on incentives per NFL website 

[IinD]

Besides not wanting him in general, I also don't like that Jimmy G had shoulder surgery on his throwing side.

 

Regardless of it's minor or not, that's scary to me if I'm dumping big resources into getting him.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

4 minutes ago, stitches said:

If we go for Jimmy G, we will be having the exact same discussions next year...  If we are truly going for Jimmy G, Ballard will never learn and the Colts will continue being mediocre for the foreseeable future. 

I do think that his compensation isn’t doing to be as much with having that surgery. It sounds like their plan is a vet and draft. I am ok with that as long as thing aren’t giving up a high pick. He only has one year left so it’s a good situation if they draft this year.  But I don’t like his salary.

[JColts72]

If Ballard and Frank think Mitch is the answer; they must be out of their minds.  Mitch sucks; rather see Jimmy G. Maybe Colts can have a QB for 2 years in a row. Ballard QB issues makes Colts look like the Jets.

[NDSU_Guy]

5 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

Jimmy G, with a run game will take the layups and is deadly in the short and intermediate game. That fits the Reich offense better than the hero ball Wentz played. So, in a nutshell, for Reich's offense, yes, he is a better QB than Wentz. 

Opinions vary.  Im not sure you watch much of Jimmy.  Fresh off shoulder surgery with already poor downfield accuracy.  Welcome to predictable losses.  Jimmy is dog water.

[Derakynn]

Steelers really love their rapist QBs huh?