2021 Preseason Game 1: Carolina @ Indianapolis 1pm

[C_Lew]

1 minute ago, The Fish said:

Yeah, if you're going to give me rote takes about who's able and not based on draft status and what interests you and doesn't and so forth, I'd just say, almost everything you thought you saw in Ehlinger is colored by playing out the string. There's nothing I saw him do that made me go "there's the guy". Again, frankly, I'm mystified by the QB'ing takes today. Eason is clearly closer and he's not hanging or drowning anything... like we're really rolling out Curtis Painter.

 

Again, weird takes on the QB play today gang

 

I don’t think you can definitively say either QB looks “closer” based on what we saw today. Eason looked like a more polished passer, but a few times he was completely oblivious to the pass rush. Ehlinger did a superb job of rolling away from the pressure several times. There are obvious pros and cons in both men’s games.

[ColtsBlitz]

For the stat guys: 

 

Jacob Eason: 15-21, 183 yards, 0TD, 0 INT, 1 FUM. 1 rush for 2 yards. QBR: 97.9

 

Sam Ehlinger: 10-15 155 yards, 0TD, 1 INT, 8 rushes for 30 yards. QBR: 72.9

[richard pallo]

4 minutes ago, HungarianColtsFan said:

 

Eason the clear leader in the clubhouse.  He has the making of a NFL QB.  Sam is fun to watch.  He has his entertaining moments.  But Eason’s two minute drill was very impressive.

[TaylorTheStudMuffin]

 

[Nickster]

3 minutes ago, The Fish said:

Yeah, if you're going to give me rote takes about who's able and not based on draft status and what interests you and doesn't and so forth, I'd just say, almost everything you thought you saw in Ehlinger is colored by playing out the string. There's nothing I saw him do that made me go "there's the guy". Again, frankly, I'm mystified by the QB'ing takes today. Eason is clearly closer and he's not hanging or drowning anything... like we're really rolling out Curtis Painter.

 

Again, weird takes on the QB play today gang

 

Looks like we have another angry little keyboard warrior.

[coming on strong]

6 minutes ago, Scott Pennock said:

That was a what, 4 step drop that the DE met him at the spot......not a lack of sensing pressure that is a lack of the LT holding a block.....The running backwards when it was a designed roll-out with two defenders in his face was stupid, agreed, he should have chucked it upfield into the sidelines

he did not step up in the pocket i just rewatched the play . he stands like a statue in the pocket the inside of the line was dominating on that play he gets the ball and makes a step up it changes the play

[TaylorTheStudMuffin]

Just now, richard pallo said:

Eason the clear leader in the clubhouse.  He has the making of a NFL QB.  Sam is fun to watch.  He has his entertaining moments.  But Eason’s two minute drill was very impressive.

The difference in the type id throws Eason can make compared to Sam is huge.

[TaylorTheStudMuffin]

This is a good point.

 

 

[holeymoley99]

Both looked solid today, each of their weaknesses going in showed today in their play. We can win with either if whoever has to start keeps improving. I like both guys, not rooting for one over the other.....

[TaylorTheStudMuffin]

 

[w87r]

1 minute ago, Wentzszn said:

 

I didn't expect to Reich to go back on his word. I do think the decision to announce that early was unnecessary, but now he has to honor it.

[Nickster]

Just now, Wentzszn said:

The difference in the type id throws Eason can make compared to Sam is huge.

Absolutely. No doubt. Ain’t even close.

sam is clearly superior in pressure pick ups, and with the state of the oline, this is far more important if Wentz doesn’t play.

[BlackTiger]

7 minutes ago, coming on strong said:

the defensive line is not as good as the colts media was hyping it up to be

They look a lot different with Buckner, Kwity didnt play either.  I thought I heard our starters were dominating them in practice all week

[ColtsLegacy]

9 minutes ago, The Fish said:

Yeah, if you're going to give me rote takes about who's able and not based on draft status and what interests you and doesn't and so forth, I'd just say, almost everything you thought you saw in Ehlinger is colored by playing out the string. There's nothing I saw him do that made me go "there's the guy". Again, frankly, I'm mystified by the QB'ing takes today. Eason is clearly closer and he's not hanging or drowning anything... like we're really rolling out Curtis Painter.

 

Again, weird takes on the QB play today gang

 

 

I agree, I think Ehlinger looked decent against guys who will be on the street soon. I also think Ehlinger could have baked a cake in the pocket most of the half (Eason, not so much).

 

Eason had about 4-5 throws that made me go "wow". Ehlinger made some good, accurate throws, but nothing "wow" worthy in my mind. And, Ehlinger lack of arm was evident.

 

I stated it before, Ehlinger is like Minshew in many ways. His play is similar and people love to pull for him, but in the end you will happily replace him with Trevor Lawrence.

 

I think a big thing here, is this is one of the first times in the past 20+ years that our 4th stringers/5/6/chopping block players are semi decent. Usually we are used to the worst players playing the worst 4th quarters in preseason.

[compuls1v3]

38 minutes ago, Gigc said:

I'm telling ya, ehlinger just finds ways to win. Watched him a LOT at texas and he's a gamer. 

Bringing back some Captain Comeback Harbaugh vibes rockin that 4...

Yeah, he def. did well under pressure.  Eason also had a nice 2 min. drive to keep us in it to end his turn.  Very fun pre-season game to watch!!

[TaylorTheStudMuffin]

 

[TaylorTheStudMuffin]

2 minutes ago, w87r said:

I didn't expect to Reich to go back on his word. I do think the decision to announce that early was unnecessary, but now he has to honor it.

I still think Eason should start next week. I am ok with it as long as started playing that a third game and he gets a chance with Pittman and some other guys. But giving Sam the ones next week seems like it’s going to be hard tog compare. If Eason is any good he should be able to tear up the scrubs next week. 

[krunk]

I need to watch a few more games but I think Brady is going to be a good OC

[John Waylon]

6 minutes ago, Wentzszn said:

 

 

Its all useless hoopla, though. It’s still Wentz’ job the second he’s cleared. 

[HungarianColtsFan]

8 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

Eason the clear leader in the clubhouse.  He has the making of a NFL QB.  Sam is fun to watch.  He has his entertaining moments.  But Eason’s two minute drill was very impressive.

 

Unfortunately I missed the complete 1st half, and most of 3rd Q. I only saw Ehlinger. Based on figures they played pretty similiar. Ehlinger looked rather a mobile QB. 

[TaylorTheStudMuffin]

Eason also had receivers  drop at least 3 passes.

[Colt Overseas]

8 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

Eason the clear leader in the clubhouse.  He has the making of a NFL QB.  Sam is fun to watch.  He has his entertaining moments.  But Eason’s two minute drill was very impressive.

 

I taught Eason played his best football up tempo there at the end of the 2nd quarter. When he is decisive, he has the arm to get the ball to where he wants it. I expect Frank to taylor the game plan more up tempo for him.

[John Waylon]

Just now, krunk said:

I need to watch a few more games but I think Brady is going to be a good OC

I know it’s only the preseason, but I must admit I didn’t see many play calls that left me wondering what the thought process behind it was. Maybe that 4th and 1 in the first half, we weren’t blocking anywhere near well enough for a rollout in that situation, but if he was trying to do something they wouldn’t expect it certainly (should have) fit that bill. 

[TaylorTheStudMuffin]

6 minutes ago, ColtsLegacy said:

 

I agree, I think Ehlinger looked decent against guys who will be on the street soon. I also think Ehlinger could have baked a cake in the pocket most of the half (Eason, not so much).

 

Eason had about 4-5 throws that made me go "wow". Ehlinger made some good, accurate throws, but nothing "wow" worthy in my mind. And, Ehlinger lack of arm was evident.

 

I stated it before, Ehlinger is like Minshew in many ways. His play is similar and people love to pull for him, but in the end you will happily replace him with Trevor Lawrence.

That is a good comparison.

[TaylorTheStudMuffin]

 

[compuls1v3]

1 minute ago, Wentzszn said:

Eason also had receivers  drop at least 3 passes.

And those might be because of the way he threw the passes.  But that’s just my opinion.

[TaylorTheStudMuffin]

1 minute ago, compuls1v3 said:

And those might be because of the way he threw the passes.  But that’s just my opinion.

Every receiver says if it hits your hands you need to catch it.

[compuls1v3]

3 minutes ago, Colt Overseas said:

 

I taught Eason played his best football up tempo there at the end of the 2nd quarter. When he is decisive, he has the arm to get the ball to where he wants it. I expect Frank to taylor the game plan more up tempo for him.

The comeback of the no huddle for us would be most welcome!!

[coming on strong]

mike strachan will be a pro bowler by next year when he takes ty hiltons place as a starter .

[Gigc]

I hear ya colt legacy. But the fact is you rarely get to pick  a Lawrence, Luck or Peyton. I know. I've followed the Colts since Johnny U. And while we've had some GREAT QBs. There were 20 years of wilderness. Hogebooms and pagels

 

[ColtsLegacy]

4 minutes ago, Wentzszn said:

Eason also had receivers  drop at least 3 passes.

 

Yes and no, a few of those he put in poor positions/too much heat. They should/could have been caught but he should have made them easier to haul in.

[ColtsLegacy]

7 minutes ago, Wentzszn said:

Every receiver says if it hits your hands you need to catch it.

 

That's obviously an over-simplification. QBs need to put the ball in the right spot to help their receivers.

6 minutes ago, Gigc said:

I hear ya colt legacy. But the fact is you rarely get to pick  a Lawrence, Luck or Peyton. I know. I've followed the Colts since Johnny U. And while we've had some GREAT QBs. There were 20 years of wilderness. Hogebooms and pagels

 

 

I know that was more of a joke. The point is, he is a replaceable player who's ceiling is mediocre, like Minshew. Again, this is my opinion.

 

People want him to be Drew Brees, and so do I, but he's more likely to be a Minshew or a less than Minshew.

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, ColtsLegacy said:

 

That's obviously an over-simplification. QBs need to put the ball in the right spot.

[life long]

Its fairly obvious where most posters stand so far in the QB competition. I think its about a dead heat. Each guy has his strengths and weaknesses. Personally I want a guy who makes quick decisions and can feel the pressure. So far we know who that would  be. Eason did have a few nice throws but looked like he relies on his big arm more than his football instincts.  Sam is lacking in size and the wow throws but there is a reason they keep talking about his IT factor...

[PRnum1]

5 minutes ago, Wentzszn said:

Every receiver says if it hits your hands you need to catch it.

Even Venturi said sometimes you have to throw a changeup instead of a fastball all the time

[ColtsLegacy]

2 minutes ago, life long said:

Its fairly obvious where most posters stand so far in the QB competition. I think its about a dead heat. Each guy has his strengths and weaknesses. Personally I want a guy who makes quick decisions and can feel the pressure. So far we know who that would  be. Eason did have a few nice throws but looked like he relies on his big arm more than his football instincts.  Sam is lacking in size and the wow throws but there is a reason they keep talking about his IT factor...

 

You know who has IT factor? Minshew... lol, sorry.

[TaylorTheStudMuffin]

Colts need to find a way to keep both Patmon and Strachan.

[coltsfansince65]

1 minute ago, PRnum1 said:

Even Venturi said sometimes you have to throw a changeup instead of a fastball all the time

I don't know why he would say that. Aroldis Chapman doesn't have a change up. 

[Bravo]

Just now, coltsfansince65 said:

I don't know why he would say that. Aroldis Chapman doesn't have a change up. 

He has a nasty slider though

[life long]

Just now, ColtsLegacy said:

 

You know who has IT factor? Minshew... lol, sorry.

Well if I recall correctly he was supposed to back up Foles but ran with it when given the chance.  I'm not saying either guy is a pro bowler, I just think you go with who has the higher floor than ceiling until Carson gets back. Sam has way more experience and seems more comfortable running an offense.