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4 hours ago, Indeee said:

I posted this in another thread and regardless of whatever "fun" this thread is suppose to incite, and regardless of whether or not you like my metaphors, this is the "Current" problem below

 

I think this organization and fanbase is at an internal crossroads and I think it really isn't any real fault of their own at the foundational issue that has caused this. Not bashing Luck, but being completely honest, Luck set this team into a cracked foundation, a crack we have not yet been able to seal properly. Where I do believe that this organization has, for the most part, built upon that foundation that was damaged or not laid correctly by Grigson, the missing piece is the piece that stabilizes the base and that is the QB. We ALL know this. I think the reason they have been so adamant about JB all along is that JB possess a lot of characteristics that normally, a sound structural part of a foundation would hold and through the first half of last season it seemed, even though not completely solidifying that quickly, that the crack might have a chance to eventually be sealed once it completely dried. Unfortunately though, that sealant(JB) never completely solidified and remains wet to the touch as we speak and began to seep out the sides of the crack, and that has bewildered everyone to as why? Why didn't JB completely solidify into that crack? Rivers, Kelly, and Eason are all band-aids at this point, with Rivers being the largest band-aid in the box. Rivers cannot be the sealant this team is looking for long term only because his cannister is pretty close to being empty. Whether it be Kelly or Eason, JB, or someone else, this team will never be completely rock solid at it's foundation until the void of a QB is sealed properly. IMO, this organization needs to completely scrape out and remove JB from this foundation to allow either Kelly or Eason the opportunity to completely solidify and fill that void, and if the organization still wants that to be JB then fine, but every ounce of his substance needs to be completely removed from that crack, allowing Kelly, Eason, and JB an equal shot to see who can solidify completely the quickest without any head starts or partially filled cracks. Filling a void partly with one substance that only slightly solidifies and then starts to either seep or break apart(JB), then slapping a patch over that area to stop the seeping while hoping it solidifies underneath(Rivers), and if that doesn't work entirely, entertaining the idea of using another substance to add to the part of the original substance that solidified partially in hoping each will bond together to fill the void, just won't work. Any builder will tell you that in order to get proper adhesion you must have one substance and one substance alone that will completely solidify and if the substance doesn't solidify on the first take, you clean out the area entirely and fill it again, you don't add to it and hope two substances gel together. IMHO, this organization needs to completely remove JB entirely from the foundation, however if they believe that JB can still completely solidify and just needs a little more time to dry under the patch of Rivers, we won't have that QB void completely solidified anytime soon.

 

That's quite the metaphor.

 

I tend to agree that removing JB now would be most beneficial long-term. Despite how you feel about Kelly...he doesn't really get a shot in a scenario with Rivers/JB/Eason on the roster. Doesn't matter if we want him to have that shot...but if THEY truly want to see what he can do...something has to give.

 

I actually think an Eason/Kelly battle for the backup spot would benefit both players long-term...as well fit the competitive culture of the Colts. And with the loser of that battle becoming QB3...the Colts don't lose anyone.

 

 

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1 minute ago, shastamasta said:

 

That's quite the metaphor.

 

I tend to agree that removing JB now would be most beneficial long-term. Despite how you feel about Kelly...he doesn't really get a shot in a scenario with Rivers/JB/Eason on the roster. All that matters is if they want him to have that shot...but if they truly want to see what he can do...something has to give.

 

I actually think an Eason/Kelly battle for the backup spot would benefit both players long-term...as well fit the competitive culture of the Colts. And with the loser of that battle becoming QB3...the Colts don't lose anyone.

 

 

If they wanted to give him a shot or saw enough of him to think he deserved a shot they would have done it last year in the last two games.  This is the NFL it’s not fair.  Not everyone gets a shot to show what they can do.  Teams keep guys around for the most part who they think is better now.  The Colts seem to think Jacoby is much better than Kelly.  They don’t seem to think it’s close and they think Jacoby adds value to this roster.  
 

I do think Jacoby adds a value that another poster brought up in this thread.  He knows this offense better than any QB on the roster and with Rivers trying to get his head around the new offense I doubt he’s going to be doing much to mentor Eason.  Jacoby’s knowledge and the fact he’s a born leader makes him a really good guy to do that.  
 

He also provides starter experience and knows the offense that he could take over in short order.  That’s exactly what you want in a backup.  If Rivers went down Brissett could come in and run the full offense right away.  He’s not another kid getting his first taste of real action.  
 

If you listen to the Colts it’s settled Rivers and Jacoby are the top two guys and Kelly and Eason are in a “battle” for the third spot.  I put battle in quotation marks because I think that’s more designed to push Eason than anything else.   
 

I don’t see them moving Jacoby right now either.  There just isn’t anything to gain from it that will provide significant value.  I will say there might be another window around roster cuts and early season should there be a major injury and team needs a QB.  With that said Irsay has seen this team get burned twice now by having “the” guy go down and not having a proven backup on the roster with Painter and Tolizen being those guys.  I think he’s learned his lesson and won’t be eager for Ballard to give away a proven backup for a yet again unproven backup option.

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46 minutes ago, KelownaColtsFan said:

Ah, I was under the impression that Hoyer was a 1 year deal. You're right though Colts do have a lot of money tied up in QB's this year. But I doubt anyone though the QB position was in any way settled last season.

 

Yeah...Luck retiring was obviously the catalyst. But I think they thought (maybe hoped is a better word) that they had at least a two-year solution...with the hope that JB would prove to be a long-term starter. But they quickly learned that they would have to change course. 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

If they wanted to give him a shot or saw enough of him to think he deserved a shot they would have done it last year in the last two games.  This is the NFL it’s not fair.  Not everyone gets a shot to show what they can do.  Teams keep guys around for the most part who they think is better now.  The Colts seem to think Jacoby is much better than Kelly.  They don’t seem to think it’s close and they think Jacoby adds value to this roster.  

 

I do think Jacoby adds a value that another poster brought up in this thread.  He knows this offense better than any QB on the roster and with Rivers trying to get his head around the new offense I doubt he’s going to be doing much to mentor Eason.  Jacoby’s knowledge and the fact he’s a born leader makes him a really good guy to do that.

 

He also provides starter experience and knows the offense that he could take over in short order.  That’s exactly what you want in a backup.  If Rivers went down Brissett could come in and run the full offense right away.  He’s not another kid getting his first taste of real action.  

 

If you listen to the Colts it’s settled Rivers and Jacoby are the top two guys and Kelly and Eason are in a “battle” for the third spot.  I put battle in quotation marks because I think that’s more designed to push Eason than anything else.   

 

I don’t see them moving Jacoby right now either.  There just isn’t anything to gain from it that will provide significant value.  I will say there might be another window around roster cuts and early season should there be a major injury and team needs a QB.  With that said Irsay has seen this team get burned twice now by having “the” guy go down and not having a proven backup on the roster with Painter and Tolizen being those guys.  I think he’s learned his lesson and won’t be eager for Ballard to give away a proven backup for a yet again unproven backup option.

 

They weren't going to bench JB. The optics of that were awful...for everyone involved. 

 

I don't really know how they feel about Kelly...so it's JMO...but I think a situation where Eason/Kelly battle for backup duties could work just fine. Rivers hasn't missed a game in 224 straight...so being his backup is probably more about cost and/or long-term value...not the short-term. That's not to say it's impossible he will miss games...just very unlikely.

 

There is certainly significant monetary value to be gained in moving on from JB...but keeping him does seem like the direction they are taking. Though I think things are settled until they aren't...a lot can happen.

 

Irsay saying they got burned twice seems disingenuous...the Colts benefited massively from those recent bad seasons. 

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7 hours ago, Indeee said:

I posted this in another thread and regardless of whatever "fun" this thread is suppose to incite, and regardless of whether or not you like my metaphors, this is the "Current" problem below

 

I think this organization and fanbase is at an internal crossroads and I think it really isn't any real fault of their own at the foundational issue that has caused this. Not bashing Luck, but being completely honest, Luck set this team into a cracked foundation, a crack we have not yet been able to seal properly. Where I do believe that this organization has, for the most part, built upon that foundation that was damaged or not laid correctly by Grigson, the missing piece is the piece that stabilizes the base and that is the QB. We ALL know this. I think the reason they have been so adamant about JB all along is that JB possess a lot of characteristics that normally, a sound structural part of a foundation would hold and through the first half of last season it seemed, even though not completely solidifying that quickly, that the crack might have a chance to eventually be sealed once it completely dried. Unfortunately though, that sealant(JB) never completely solidified and remains wet to the touch as we speak and began to seep out the sides of the crack, and that has bewildered everyone to as why? Why didn't JB completely solidify into that crack? Rivers, Kelly, and Eason are all band-aids at this point, with Rivers being the largest band-aid in the box. Rivers cannot be the sealant this team is looking for long term only because his cannister is pretty close to being empty. Whether it be Kelly or Eason, JB, or someone else, this team will never be completely rock solid at it's foundation until the void of a QB is sealed properly. IMO, this organization needs to completely scrape out and remove JB from this foundation to allow either Kelly or Eason the opportunity to completely solidify and fill that void, and if the organization still wants that to be JB then fine, but every ounce of his substance needs to be completely removed from that crack, allowing Kelly, Eason, and JB an equal shot to see who can solidify completely the quickest without any head starts or partially filled cracks. Filling a void partly with one substance that only slightly solidifies and then starts to either seep or break apart(JB), then slapping a patch over that area to stop the seeping while hoping it solidifies underneath(Rivers), and if that doesn't work entirely, entertaining the idea of using another substance to add to the part of the original substance that solidified partially in hoping each will bond together to fill the void, just won't work. Any builder will tell you that in order to get proper adhesion you must have one substance and one substance alone that will completely solidify and if the substance doesn't solidify on the first take, you clean out the area entirely and fill it again, you don't add to it and hope two substances gel together. IMHO, this organization needs to completely remove JB entirely from the foundation, however if they believe that JB can still completely solidify and just needs a little more time to dry under the patch of Rivers, we won't have that QB void completely solidified anytime soon.


Crack is whack!!

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On 5/4/2020 at 1:27 AM, CurBeatElite said:

I could see us potentially trading him to a team (potentially NE) for a 5th round pick

Super Bowl-winning quarterback Nick Foles was traded for a fourth round, three time Pro Bowl quarterback Andy Dalton could not generate a trade and had to be released, three time Pro Bowl quarterback Cam Newton could not generate a trade and had to be released. No one is giving the Colts a 5th round pick for Jacoby Brissett and his contact.

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On 5/3/2020 at 3:59 PM, MikeCurtis said:

LOL

 

Sheeze, Chloe..... picking fights already?
 

I think there are a few possible outcomes.....

 

1) If they are both equally average. Eason makes the Team, CK does not, JB Stays

 

2) If Eason is excellent and CK is average or less, CK is gone , JB Stays

 

3) If CK is excellent and Eason is way below average , Eason is cut , JB Stays

 

4) If they BOTH are excellent, they both stay, and a conversation of trade or cut goes to JB

 

 

Yeah, option 4 wins by a mile for the present and especially for the future...Eason or Kelly as starter and the other as the backup.

Brissett should have been gone long ago.

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I think it says a lot about this team when there can be a discussion if it’s 4th round pick will make the team.  Great depth everywhere. 
 

My opinion on either of these guys is it really doesn’t matter.  Both are high level backups at best but most likely neither will have a career worth talking about.  

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On 5/4/2020 at 3:17 AM, GoColts8818 said:

It’s the NFL injuries happen, don’t forget Jacoby got hurt behind this same line last year.  So while having a good line lowers your risk for injury it doesn’t completely negate it.  
 

The Colts aren’t hurting for money this year.  They had more than enough money to spend on guys they wanted so his contract isn’t a big deal to him this year and it’s the last year of that deal.  
 

Also, they want the best backup they can have if the starter gets hurt and they think Jacoby is better than Kelly.  I know that’s hard for some to understand (and I don’t mean that as an insult I am not a big Jacoby fan myself).  I am just listening to everything the team says.  It’s pretty clear they haven’t given up on Jacoby even if the fans have.  
 

It’s becoming clear that the Colts don’t think Kelly is anywhere close to as good as some fans want him to be.  If they did they would give him a shot.  The fact that they haven’t at every chance should tell people something.  

Ya that can happen when the defender responsible for the injury is getting away with hands to the face...

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On 5/3/2020 at 7:09 PM, KelownaColtsFan said:

I kinda hope they dump Jacoby and Let Kelly and Eason battle it out. We know what we have in Brissett and that is a quality back up at best. I don't see the point in keeping him around if all he's doing is taking practice snaps away from the other 2. 

Unfortunately the Colts have about 20 million reasons to keep JB.

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42 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

Lets see if we can find a couple of more reasons to whine about Brissett? 

Ballard has said Brissett is the back up QB at this time. End of story. 

I don't know who has got more bashed on this site, Chuck or JB, it is close. I don't count Trent because he actually was bad. Even when we were 5-2, some were saying we were winning despite him. What a pile of Horse dung, he had 2 300 yard games in that stretch and had 14 TD's and only 3 INT's. He helped us win games. He just isn't a franchise QB so let the haters pile on I guess homer simpson GIF. There is nothing wrong with keeping JB 1 more year as he is the 2nd best QB on the roster and is off the books after this year. I don't get the gripe by some in here??

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4 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I don't know who has got more bashed on this site, Chuck or JB, it is close. I don't count Trent because he actually was bad. Even when we were 5-2, some were saying we were winning despite him. What a pile of Horse dung, he had 2 300 yard games in that stretch and had 14 TD's and only 3 INT's. He helped us win games. He just isn't a franchise QB so let the haters pile on I guess homer simpson GIF. There is nothing wrong with keeping JB 1 more year as he is the 2nd best QB on the roster and is off the books after this year. I don't get the gripe by some in here??

I have no problem with what anyone really says about Brissett at all. Everyone is entitled to their opinions no doubt.

My thing is there is nothing more one way or another that can be said. To keep harping over and over not only gets old it don't say anything new. Personally, I hate a broken record. 

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51 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

I have no problem with what anyone really says about Brissett at all. Everyone is entitled to their opinions no doubt.

My thing is there is nothing more one way or another that can be said. To keep harping over and over not only gets old it don't say anything new. Personally, I hate a broken record. 

That is my deal too. Some just want to dwell on it. We have Rivers now so I am over it. Brissett is a solid backup as well. 

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On 7/27/2020 at 7:15 PM, horseshoepower said:

Eason, picked a bad year to be a rookie. 

I see the opposite, he's not going to have to compete to make it through to next year.

Ballard loves his draft picks too much.

 

JMHO

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On 5/4/2020 at 8:20 AM, MikeCurtis said:

Forum Frustrations

 

1) People that HAVE to be right (we all do this a bit)

 

2) People with no sense of humor

 

3) People that 100% Know the future

 

4) People that consider their opinion as LIFE or DEATH situation

 

5) People that have to crush another person or opinion (We ALL root for the same team... which means our IQ is 10-20% higher than the average person :) )

 

 

Did I miss anything?

I would include fans who continually think they know more than the coaching staff. 

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8 minutes ago, Four2itus said:

I would include fans who continually think they know more than the coaching staff. 

That's like some people continue to think Chad Kelly is good but yet once again same result. I have nothing against Chad but apparently Reich and Ballard don't think he is good. JB isn't in that good category either as a starter but he is a great backup and solid leader.

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1 minute ago, SteelCityColt said:

I can’t see Kelly landing on another roster. Not sure off hand if he is still PS eligible.

I think he is eligible for the PS, If I was the Colts I would keep him there. It went as I predicted = Rivers 1, JB 2, Eason 3, Kelly PS. There was no way Eason was going to be cut being a 4th round pick unless he just looked bad. Not with that cannon arm.

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4 minutes ago, SteelCityColt said:


I don’t see why they didn’t just move 53 to 57 in that case. Assuming it’s CBA related?

Players can be signed off a team’s PS at anytime if they are on a PS so if you are fringe player being on the PS might benefit you.  For teams I believe most PS contracts are cheaper than roster contracts.  So that’s probably why.

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6 minutes ago, SteelCityColt said:


I don’t see why they didn’t just move 53 to 57 in that case. Assuming it’s CBA related?

I think the union felt that the rules were prejudicial to older vets with experience. Honestly, I never understood why they gave preference to younger players without experience. I get it they want to allow for a chance to develop, but it's not called the develop squad. I'd be all for letting a team sign 4 guys a year that can't play, and are signed purely to develop.

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49 minutes ago, IinD said:

One of these days Chad will be vindicated and be our 15 year starter.

 

Until then, we'll have a yearly thread about him.. Lol

You know here is part of me that thinks the Colts really do see him as a possible back up next year but he’s become so tainted in a lot of fans minds because of people who want anyone but JB and are convinced Kelly is the future.  

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2 hours ago, GoColts8818 said:

You know here is part of me that thinks the Colts really do see him as a possible back up next year but he’s become so tainted in a lot of fans minds because of people who want anyone but JB and are convinced Kelly is the future.  

I just wanted to make a Kelly joke :D..

 

Let's hope Rivers keeps that durability he's had for a few more years.

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On 9/5/2020 at 4:55 PM, IinD said:

One of these days Chad will be vindicated and be our 15 year starter.

 

Until then, we'll have a yearly thread about him.. Lol

In the meantime I agonize in melancholic sorrow by the reflection pond... wondering what might have been.

 

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Has anyone ever considered that, with Chad Kelly, Frank may just be doing a favor for long time friend Jim Kelly?  That Jim may have asked Frank to take Chad under his wing and help him get his head on straight for a couple of years.  It really is a win win, Kelly gets to be on a roster and learn the ins and outs of being a professional, the Colts get an emergency QB that could be electric for a few games.  Then after a couple of years, Kelly knows how to be a pro and can go to a team and earn his keep.

 

Just a theory.

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lots of people want to make fun of Ck for some unknown reason. The bottom line is this when he has played he has played very well. Some will attack the fact that it was against 2nd teams. Regardless you can only play when you play. Putting him on the PS over Eason was smart becasue Eason would have been picked up and CK was more likely to clear waviers. That does not make him a bad player. I have watched Brissett Play and I have watched CK. CK is better. I do not understand what we are doing with Brissett.

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23 minutes ago, JMichael557 said:

lots of people want to make fun of Ck for some unknown reason. The bottom line is this when he has played he has played very well. Some will attack the fact that it was against 2nd teams. Regardless you can only play when you play. Putting him on the PS over Eason was smart becasue Eason would have been picked up and CK was more likely to clear waviers. That does not make him a bad player. I have watched Brissett Play and I have watched CK. CK is better. I do not understand what we are doing with Brissett.

 

JB is on this roster because hes been paid to be on this roster. His great leadership is a plus.

 

But the anti CK group will do their utmost to talk him down, simply, and seriously simply because a handful of us liked what we saw out of him when he did play. 

 

It really kind of blows my mind a bit because it wasn't completely insane to want a different QB over JB in 2019, and yet, here we are. The butt of everyones joke simply because you wanted to see what this QB had because the season was going down hill (once JB went down and came back) every week. 

 

But we are cRaZy!! Its CrAzY to want to see what a QB can do vs starters. CRazY I tell ya!!! 

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I find it funny that JB supporters play the "trust the FO card" or "I trust Ballard over Armchair GMs", yet they can't take the fact that Ballard signed Rivers because he doesn't trust JB (and he's paying JB $20 million to sit on the bench as a backup), and he drafted Eason to be the future. They say they trust Ballard and the FO over armchair GMs? Well trust the fact that Ballard doesn't trust JB to start for the present or the future with the signing of Rivers and the drafting of Eason. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Rivers and Eason is Ballard admitting his mistake with Brissett. Actions speak louder than words. Ballard's actions agree with the people the JB supporters are arguing against even if he won't bash JB verbally.

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3 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

I find it funny that JB supporters play the "trust the FO card" or "I trust Ballard over Armchair GMs", yet they can't take the fact that Ballard signed Rivers because he doesn't trust JB (and he's paying JB $20 million to sit on the bench as a backup), and he drafted Eason to be the future. They say they trust Ballard and the FO over armchair GMs? Well trust the fact that Ballard doesn't trust JB to start for the present or the future with the signing of Rivers and the drafting of Eason. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Rivers and Eason is Ballard admitting his mistake with Brissett. Actions speak louder than words. Ballard's actions agree with the people the JB supporters are arguing against even if he won't bash JB verbally.

You left out the part where people who defend JB tend to say trust Ballard to keep JB as the BACKUP very few if any are calling for him to be the starter.  They are just disputing the opinion some have that Chad Kelly is better than Brissett.  

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1 minute ago, GoColts8818 said:

He left out the part where people who defend JB tend to say trust Ballard to keep JB as the BACKUP very few if any are calling for him to be the starter.  They are just disputing the opinion some have that Chad Kelly is better than Brissett.  

JB should be the backup this year. He's getting paid for one more year, and at least he can minimize mistakes if Rivers misses a game or two. At this point, Kelly is PS material. There is no point in him being on the 53 with Rivers and Eason. The issue was last year at the end of the season without Rivers and Eason. Chad may or may not be better than Brissett, we don't know and probably will never know. Last year was the opportunity to see that. All we know is Brissett is a backup, nothing more, and Kelly is a guy with potential that was probably worth starting with two pointless games at the end of the season as the result meant nothing since we were eliminated from the playoffs. It's just the principle of it. Doesn't matter who's better, it was more about gaining info in a real life game or two.

 

As of now, Brissett will be gone after this season unless he takes a huge pay cut. Rivers could either way depending on if he wants to play 1 more year. It'll probably be Eason, maybe Kelly, and a draft pick or FA signing fighting over the QB spot next year. As far as Kelly goes, it'll be a what if that never materializes, but it was still a poor move not to see what you have in him in two meaningless games, and one that could ultimately bite us later if we release him and he latches on somewhere else because we didn't see what he could actually do against real competition.

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1 minute ago, Jared Cisneros said:

JB should be the backup this year. He's getting paid for one more year, and at least he can minimize mistakes if Rivers misses a game or two. At this point, Kelly is PS material. There is no point in him being on the 53 with Rivers and Eason. The issue was last year at the end of the season without Rivers and Eason. Chad may or may not be better than Brissett, we don't know and probably will never know. Last year was the opportunity to see that. All we know is Brissett is a backup, nothing more, and Kelly is a guy with potential that was probably worth starting with two pointless games at the end of the season as the result meant nothing since we were eliminated from the playoffs. It's just the principle of it. Doesn't matter who's better, it was more about gaining info in a real life game or two.

 

As of now, Brissett will be gone after this season unless he takes a huge pay cut. Rivers could either way depending on if he wants to play 1 more year. It'll probably be Eason, maybe Kelly, and a draft pick or FA signing fighting over the QB spot next year. As far as Kelly goes, it'll be a what if that never materializes, but it was still a poor move not to see what you have in him in two meaningless games, and one that could ultimately bite us later if we release him and he latches on somewhere else because we didn't see what he could actually do against real competition.

That’s what the vast majority think.  There are still people who thought Kelly was the best QB on the roster minus Rivers.  That’s what the majority objected too.  

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WR Michael Tutsie ERFA – 840k?   Of the above really like to see the Colts resign Ronnie Harrison, Dayo Odeyingbo, Kylen Granson, Dallis Flowers, and Segun Olubi.  In order to free up cap space it wouldn't shock me to see Braden Smith traded.  Not ideal but only way at this point in time to see freeing up available cap space.  Would love to add OC Connor Williams who is still a free agent but suffered an ACL injury late in 2023.  Before his injury Williams ranked as the 3rd best OL in 2023 in zone-heavy scheme.  Recoding a league best 92.4 run-blocking grade on zone concepts and equally impressive in pass protection allowing just six pressures on 280 pass sets.    No doubt the Colts love speed on their offense.  Jonathan Taylor was recently listed as one of the fastest players in the NFL last season.  Then the Colts drafted Anthony Gould who in 2023 Week 3 hit a top speed of 21.6 mph.  As UDFAs the Colts then brought in NC State Trent Pennix who in Week 6 clocked the fastest time by a TE at 20.6 MPH but also is a capable RB.  Colts also added QB Jason Bean (Kansas) who in Week 9 clocked an impressive 22.4 mph T5 fastest player in 2023.   Mock Draft   Round 1 WLB Harold Perkins Jr. (LSU) - As a true freshman led all LBs in Power 5 with a 91.0 pass-rush grade and second among all LBs in the country with 18 QB knockdowns (sacks/hits) and tied for second in the country with 4 *.  In 2023 as a true off-ball LB he struggled as a run defender but flashed in coverage, 81.1 coverage grade.  At the end of 2023 now recorded 27 TFLs and 13 sacks with 7 forced fumbles.  Made 2022 college football all-America Freshman Team.  In 2022 his 87.6 pass-rush grade by true freshman is 3rd best since the 2014 era, behind (Rueben Bain Jr-2023 and Myles Garrett-2014).  2022 PFF TOW 11 honors.  Like JOK, Perkins has a chance to win the Butkus Award.  Both JOK and Perkins have similar builds and ran a 4.42s-forty.  Do expect Perkins’ stats to dip if he does move to MLB and probably drop him to Round 2 grades much like Edgerrin Cooper in 2024 Draft Class.  Quick to drop into zone and covers enough ground to be Tampa-2 MIKE but some feel better suited as a WLB maximize range/speed.  Expecting Shaquille ‘Darius’ Leonard 2018-2021 vibes along with JOKs 2021-2023 production traits.  Both were drafted in Round 2 but should been first rounders.  Perkins replaces EJ Speed.   Round 2 Edge/RDE Elijah Alston (Miami) –Alston was an All-Sun Belt selection in 2023.  In 2023 he had a 91.0 overall grade and 90.5 pass-rushing grade based on 235 pass rush snaped while at Marshal Alston also racked up 36 QB pressures, 5 sacks plus 24 defensive stops during this period.  By mid-November Alston was ranked 4th best (Marshawn Kneeland was #3) Edge behind #1 Latu whom the Colts selected in Round 1.   2023 College Football All-Sun Belt Team.  Looking forward to the Cal game and how he does against RB Jaydn Ott, RT Victor Stoffel, and LG Rush Reimer.  Duke’s new RT Micah Sahakian matchup is another one would like to see.  RB Quinton Cooley (Wake Forest) who transferred from Liberty and earned 2023 College Football All-CUSA Team is another key matchup.  Finally, TE/WR Oronde Gadsden II of Syracuse could test his coverage skills.  The Colts done well and am looking forward to seeing Paye/Latu tandem then creating another one with Odeyingbo and Alston.  Ebukam will be a FA after 2025 but could be cut/traded save cap space.  Close build to Ebukam and Leo with 2” taller than Avery with Avery an upcoming FA and no guarantee we can resign Odeyingbo with the minimal cap space currently projected.   Round 3 LT J.C. Davis (Illinois) - The New Mexico Lobos ran a zone-scheme concept 318 times in 2023 and Davis was on the field for 316 of those snaps where he helped the team earn a 91.5 rushing grade with 58 explosive runs.  Davis is well-rounded earning a 78.6 inside-zone run grade and a 78.4 outside-zone run grade.  See how well Davis does after transferring the Big 10 this season.  Overall, 82.4 run-blocking grade in 2023.  Comparison Illinois Isaiah Adams was drafted #71 by Arizona and was ranked 8th best zone OL in 2023 and Davis was 5th best.  In 2022 Davis earned a 66.8 overall PFF grade and in 2023 had an 87.1 pass-blocking grade.  If the Colts do trade/cap release Braden Smith than Davis is a high target to hopefully take early to replace him.   Round 4 TE Jalin Conyers (Texas Tech) - In 2022 Conyers forced 21 missed tackles which led all TEs in the country.  Plus, ranked 4th in receiving yards after contact (170).  As a redshirt freshman in 2021 had a 73.5 pass-blocking grade while playing at Arizona State.  Conyers can be elusive with the ball in his hands.  In his first season was used heavily as a run-blocker (2021) and excelled as a blocker ranking him 4th in the Pac-12.  Back in August 2023 Rick Spielman said he may be the best run-blocking TE in the class behind Cade Stover.  Considered a true Y TE efficient at run-blocking and can catch with run-after ability.  Spielman said last year would have had a Late Day 2 grade, while Ryan Wilson says Rounds 3-4.  Potential to be a red zone monster in the NFL if he continues to grow his game.  Last year Round 4 was where tight ends were drafted and expect the same again in 2025.  Replaces Mo Alie-Cox.   Round 5 Edge/RDE Anton Juncaj (Arkansas) – 2023 College Football FCS All-America Team while at Albany.  2022 PFF grade of 75.1.  2023 final defense grade of 91.3, run defense 87.4, pass rush 90.6 and 68.5 coverage grade and racked up 55 tackles (34 solo), 21.5 TFL, 15 sacks, 3 PD and forced 5 fumbles.  Key matchups against RB Ollie Gordon II (Oklahoma St) the Reigning Doak Walker Award Winner from 2023 and projected first rounder LT Kelvin Banks Jr (Texas).   Round 6 Rover/SLB-SAF Justin Barron (Syracuse) - 2023 College Football All-ACC Team.  Defensive Captain. 6’4” 231 pounds had 0.5 sacks, 3 *, 1 FR, 1 INT, and 8 PDs in 2023 (81.4 PFF grade).  In 2022 had 64 tackles and 5 TFLs.  Reminds me of Jaylon Carlies whom the Colts just drafted in Round 5P151.  Key matchup versus Cal and RB Jayden Ott.  WR Eric Singleton Jr (Georgia Tech), WR Kevin Concepcion (NC State), WR-X Ricky White (UNLV), RB Desmond Reid, TE Justin Joly (UConn).  Solid in zone coverage.   Round 7 SS Mishael Powell Miami (FL) – Powell transferred from Washington.  In Week 8 he clocked 21.0 mph.  In 876 snaps in 2023 Powell played 477 in the slot, 165 in the box, and 122 at FS finishing with a strong 73.9 coverage and 69 defensive grades.   Potential UDFAs ·         QB KJ Jefferson (Arkansas) - 2023 PFF TOW 2 honors ·         R3-UDFA RT Jalen Travis (Iowa State) 6’7” 310 pounds - While at Princeton finished with an overall 80.7 PFF Grade and 9th best OT in D1 (89% pass blocking and 75% run blocking grades). – Much like OT Tyler McLellan (Campbell) signed with Chargers, project to UDFA in 2025.  See how he does at Iowa State against better competition as he graded slightly behind Kiran Amegadjie (Yale) who was drafted in Round 3 P11 by the Bears in 2024 NFL draft.  Listed as backup behind Tyler Miller. ·         LT Adam Karas (Air Force) - After 9 weeks Karas has an 83.9 run-blocking grade and an overall PFF grade of 87.4.  Overall, 86.3 PFF grade with just one penalty and 1 QB hurry on 296 total snaps.  Decent height 6’4” ·         RT Josh Fryar (OSU) - 2023 earned college football midseason all-America Honorable Mention.  Fryar finished 2023 with a 70.8 overall PFF grade.  Great height 6’6”.  Finished with a 70.8 PFF grade.  Gave up a team high 5 sacks but did earn a 77.2 run blocking grade and a 71.2 pass blocking grade. ·         LG Rush Reimer (Cal) – In 2023 Reimer earned first-team All-Big Sky Conference at LG with an overall 75.8 PFF Grade (D1-T8) at Montana State.  See how he does against better CFB competition.  Project goes UDFA much like Jake Kubas (7) (NY Giants), Ross Palmer (3), and (2) Donny Ventrelli (Bears).  Could be the next Mason McCormick (6) drafted by the Steelers P119 in the 2024 NFL draft.  Montana State used a lot of Inside Zone runs.  Cal has Reimer listed as backup LT for 2024. ·         RT/OG Grey Zabel (North Dakota State) 6’6” 296 pounds.  Zabel finished 2023 with an overall 79.3 PFF Grade as an OG.  Finished 10th among other listed tackles last season.  As a guard would have been 4th best D1.  Zabel started all 15 games in 2023 with 3 at guard and 12 at RT. ·         RB Harrison Waylee (Wyoming) – In 2023 clocked 21.8 mph in Week 4 T18 fastest player. ·         RB/KR Lan Larison (UC Davis) finished 2023 tied 7th overall FCS RB with an overall 89.2 PFF Grade (R5) in D1.  On 178 carries rushed for 1101 yards scoring 13 TDS while adding two more through the air on 21 REC for 198 yards.  Larison was the 2023 Big Sky Offensive Player of the Year.  In 2021 averaged 29.91 yards as a kick returner and 21.9 yards in 2022. ·         SWR/RB/KR/PR Chris Tyree (ND) 4.29s-forty speed excellent 3.95s shuttle (HS) and 38” vertical (HS).  In 2023 Week 9 clocked 21.0 mph. ·         WRX/Z Bo Belquist (North Dakota) 2023 overall 88.6 PFF Grade.  For D1 graded out as one of the top 10 WRs behind Hayden Hatten 86.1 whom the Seahawks added as an UDFA. ·         SWR Jacob De Jesus (UNLV) – best PR/KR #3 in PR and #13 in KR.  De Jesus was a top nomination to win the Jet Award in 2023 who was given to Zachariah Branch (USC). ·         WR-X Dymere Miller (Rutgers) – 2023 College Football FCS All-America Team with Monmouth.  Miller finished as the best receiver (D1) in 2023 with a 92.3 PFF grade (only behind Nabers).  Monmouth ran an inside zone with three different concepts in its base A gap zone.  Also pinched in as a kickoff returner with success (13.67 and 12.5 avgs). ·         WR Isaac TeSlaa (Arkansas) – Great Midwest American Conference Offensive Player of the Year in 2022 and received Honorable Mention All-American.  Strengths are ball tracking, hands, athleticism, 50/50 extraordinaire. ·         LEdge Aaron Lewis (Rutgers) - 2022 PFF Weeks 6 and 12 honors.  A disappointing 2023 season compared to 2022 grading 10 points lower.  (75.9 in 2023 compared to 85.5 in 2022).  Poor run-defense grade of 59.8 but was still an elite pass rusher.  His 91.5 pass-rushing grade since 2022 ranks 10th among all FBS edge defenders and his 18.7% pass-rush win rate places 11th in Power Five.  Needs to improve his run game. ·         Jack OLB/RDE Steve Linton (Baylor) – Linton transferred to Baylor from Texas Tech.  Injury prone, in 2023 suffered a broken thumb in August, sprained ankle in Big 12 opener vs West Virginia, aggravated it the following week then missed the last four games of regular season with back problems.  72% tackling, 88% pass rush, 61% run defense, 72% coverage.  Decent 4.62s-forty speed and 6’5” 235 pounds. ·         NCB Yam Banks (Ole’ Miss) - Made 2022 PFF College All-America Second Team while playing at South Alabama.  For 2024 listed as backup.  In 2022 Banks was a first-team All-Sun Belt pick and third team in 2023.  In 45 games, Banks racked up 147 TOT, 7 INT (6 in 2022 T3 in nation). ·         LCB Tommi Hill (Nebraska) – 4.55s forty speed.  In 2023 had an outstanding QB rating when targeted of 38.6.  With another solid year Hill could move up.  ·         FS Saiku White (Lafayette) - In 2023 White moved from SS to FS and had a career year with a final 2023 defense grade 91.4 best for 2nd, pass rush grade 74.4, a 90.7 coverage grade 4th best, and an 80.7 run defense grade 98th.   Team Captain. Achieved a 3.75 GPA in 2023. ·         LS Byron Floyd (PITT) – Floyds 81.7 grade this season leads all FBS LS.  Of his 41 LS on both punts/kicks only one has been charted as off-target.  Does have ties to Colts new DL coach.  Luke Rhodes, age 32, signed a 4-year contract extension on 09/23.  ·         LS Nick Barcelos (Nevada) - 2023 college football midseason all-America Second Team as a long snapper – Luke Rhodes signed a 4-year extension with the Colts September 8th, 2023.
    • FWIW:   Richardson, who was drafted weighing 244, admitted today on the Pat McAfee show that he played last year at 250 and now weighs 255 which is what he expects to weigh this season. 
    • Larry Allen, Hall of Fame OG/OT, passed today. He is arguably the greatest Offensive Linemen of all-time. He could play right or left Guard or Tackle. He won a SB with the Cowboys in 1995. He is also known for having the NFL bench press record, when he benched 700 pounds down to chest and up once. I am shocked this hasn't been bigger news around the league.    RIP big fella.
    • He didn't  have all his weapons  versus ravens. He has more than enough  weapons  now
    • Didn't really seem like C.J said anything derogatory. I also don't think Indy hates him. It's all competition at the end of the day. What does bother me is he talks like he wasn't getting his butt kicked when AR and him first met. 
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