Tombstone Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 About those drops After the Colts littered MetLife Stadium with five or six more dropped passes, Reich admitted the obvious: “It’s been an issue and it’s past the point of, “OK, that was a fluke.’’ Sirianni agreed. Pro Football Focus charted the Colts with 15 drops in the last three games. Some guesstimates are as high as 18. “Everybody’s aware of it,’’ Sirianni said. “Yeah, we all know it’s a problem. We just have to keep coaching the fundamentals. We’re on them about fundamentals. “We’ll just keep throwing the ball to them in practice. They have to go out and do it. They know that. Nobody wants to catch the ball more than the guy who’s got the name on the back of his jersey and the Colt symbol on his helmet.’’ Daily practice requires each receiver to go through an 85-catch circuit. “Just different types of catches,’’ Sirianni said. “Now we’re requiring them to get on that JUGS for a little more. “We all know this is a problem we have to fix. We know it’s an issue. We know as a group – players and coaches – we have to fix it.’’ You can follow Mike Chappell on Twitter at @mchappell51. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 52 minutes ago, Tombstone said: About those drops After the Colts littered MetLife Stadium with five or six more dropped passes, Reich admitted the obvious: “It’s been an issue and it’s past the point of, “OK, that was a fluke.’’ Sirianni agreed. Pro Football Focus charted the Colts with 15 drops in the last three games. Some guesstimates are as high as 18. “Everybody’s aware of it,’’ Sirianni said. “Yeah, we all know it’s a problem. We just have to keep coaching the fundamentals. We’re on them about fundamentals. “We’ll just keep throwing the ball to them in practice. They have to go out and do it. They know that. Nobody wants to catch the ball more than the guy who’s got the name on the back of his jersey and the Colt symbol on his helmet.’’ Daily practice requires each receiver to go through an 85-catch circuit. “Just different types of catches,’’ Sirianni said. “Now we’re requiring them to get on that JUGS for a little more. “We all know this is a problem we have to fix. We know it’s an issue. We know as a group – players and coaches – we have to fix it.’’ You can follow Mike Chappell on Twitter at @mchappell51. Fix it by cutting them 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douzer Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 52 minutes ago, Tombstone said: Daily practice requires each receiver to go through an 85-catch circuit. Perhaps they should add the "right in the chest" pass to their circuit. Seems to be a tricky one for them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJpalmbeacher2 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 53 minutes ago, Tombstone said: About those drops After the Colts littered MetLife Stadium with five or six more dropped passes, Reich admitted the obvious: “It’s been an issue and it’s past the point of, “OK, that was a fluke.’’ Sirianni agreed. Pro Football Focus charted the Colts with 15 drops in the last three games. Some guesstimates are as high as 18. “Everybody’s aware of it,’’ Sirianni said. “Yeah, we all know it’s a problem. We just have to keep coaching the fundamentals. We’re on them about fundamentals. “We’ll just keep throwing the ball to them in practice. They have to go out and do it. They know that. Nobody wants to catch the ball more than the guy who’s got the name on the back of his jersey and the Colt symbol on his helmet.’’ Daily practice requires each receiver to go through an 85-catch circuit. “Just different types of catches,’’ Sirianni said. “Now we’re requiring them to get on that JUGS for a little more. “We all know this is a problem we have to fix. We know it’s an issue. We know as a group – players and coaches – we have to fix it.’’ You can follow Mike Chappell on Twitter at @mchappell51. How do you fix 'no talent' ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash7 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 It stinks that they’ve had so many drops, and I’m sure no one feels worse than they do. As fans, we’re upset, but I hope they do get it together for their sake. They’ve worked too hard to get here and to have these mental mistakes take away from their opportunity to support themselves and their families really sucks. I’m pulling for them to have big games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeDown Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 The question is why are they dropping them? Scared of getting hit? Tired? Looking ahead to make a big play? Small hands? Sweaty and slippery hands? Shouldn’t be playing at this level? Luck throws a tough ball to catch? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Colt Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Add them to their secondary where you are not expected to catch a ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
our_dbs_rock Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, LockeDown said: The question is why are they dropping them? Scared of getting hit? Tired? Looking ahead to make a big play? Small hands? Sweaty and slippery hands? Shouldn’t be playing at this level? Luck throws a tough ball to catch? I always wonder if it has to do with how luck throws the ball. They have the hardest time with short throws like rb and wr screens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheartcolt Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, our_dbs_rock said: I always wonder if it has to do with how luck throws the ball. They have the hardest time with short throws like rb and wr screens. Yes, it all on Luck. Nothing to do with the WR's. In fact, when Luck is just about to release the ball, a small jet of oil squirts from his index finger, smearing the ball in a light film making it hard to catch. Are those darn coaches blind...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Owen Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 30 minutes ago, braveheartcolt said: Yes, it all on Luck. Nothing to do with the WR's. In fact, when Luck is just about to release the ball, a small jet of oil squirts from his index finger, smearing the ball in a light film making it hard to catch. Are those darn coaches blind...... You saw that also?...i thought it was just me... Plus..you know..all that heat he puts on the ball. No-one can catch the ball when it's coming at you so fast -.- (jokes aside, He has been putting more velocity on the ball when he wants too. But sometimes i think he should so WR's have that extra moment to turn and make a play. But he's probably more worried about them catching it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheartcolt Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, Lawrence Owen said: You saw that also?...i thought it was just me... Plus..you know..all that heat he puts on the ball. No-one can catch the ball when it's coming at you so fast -.- (jokes aside, He has been putting more velocity on the ball when he wants too. But sometimes i think he should so WR's have that extra moment to turn and make a play. But he's probably more worried about them catching it.) Run, separate, catch, secure, run upfield. In that order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lef Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 The fix may be Brent, Fountain and/or Ishmael. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamboat_Shaun Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 3 hours ago, our_dbs_rock said: I always wonder if it has to do with how luck throws the ball. They have the hardest time with short throws like rb and wr screens. Yeah I don’t think it’s Luck... (watch with audio) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HungarianColtsFan Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 2 hours ago, braveheartcolt said: Yes, it all on Luck. Nothing to do with the WR's. In fact, when Luck is just about to release the ball, a small jet of oil squirts from his index finger, smearing the ball in a light film making it hard to catch. Are those darn coaches blind...... That squirrel oil... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luck 4 president Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 5 hours ago, Stephen said: Fix it by cutting them I agree. Anyone not named TY, ebron and Doyle should be cut after multiple drops. They aren’t talented enough to ignore their lack of catching ability unlike Ebron for example. There are tons of guys more talented than what we have who are waiting to get a chance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheartcolt Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Luck 4 president said: I agree. Anyone not named TY, ebron and Doyle should be cut after multiple drops. They aren’t talented enough to ignore their lack of catching ability unlike Ebron for example. There are tons of guys more talented than what we have who are waiting to get a chance Name them please. And don't say Dez. And some evidence that they would come here if we offered them a shot. I'm asking out of ignorance, not having a pop at you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luck 4 president Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 26 minutes ago, braveheartcolt said: Name them please. And don't say Dez. And some evidence that they would come here if we offered them a shot. I'm asking out of ignorance, not having a pop at you. I’m thinking more of UDFA guys without big names. One guy that comes to mind is Jordan Leslie. He’s bounced from practice squads and played well anytime he’s gotten a shot. He’s got great hands and that’s what we need. I remember him from the game against the Browns last year, and he also made espn top 10. This happened to be on our best corner last year. We don’t necessarily need him, but we do need guys that have sure hands. That’s how Belichick does it. He’s known for always having unathletic white receivers. The one thing they all have in common is their catching ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeDown Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Steamboat_Shaun said: Yeah I don’t think it’s Luck... (watch with audio) That was sooo bad, that it has to be oil.......Lucas oil??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerColt Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 To me, it almost appears as if they're surprised that the ball is coming their way. "Oh he chose me! He chose me! Better not screw u--, d'aww... shucks..." I never played WR (Way too short), but even as a RB I was told to expect the ball every single play. They obviously know how to catch a ball, otherwise they wouldn't have made it this far. Maybe it's some sort of mental block situation? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollygagger8 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 These WR's are probably used to playing the Colts secondary in practice where they are wide open all the time and not worried about getting hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisaaron1023 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 I think it is a mental block.. a couple dropped passes leads to no confidence. Especially with Chester. Poor dude. Maybe just thinking too much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasta519 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 They are just doing what they are told...to help secure this next draft pick. /s But it is crazy that it’s all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coach kline Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 6 hours ago, Steamboat_Shaun said: Yeah I don’t think it’s Luck... (watch with audio) Love Benny Hill music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodsworth Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 We need receivers with good hands to run this dunk and dunk system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsBlueFL Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 11 hours ago, Stephen said: Fix it by cutting them If there is no improvement soon, despite coaching efforts and drills to hone skills, that will happen. Have to let it play out; one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Agree with most in this topic. You can’t coach hands. You either have them or you don’t. Replace all the receivers except Hilton, Doyle, and Ebron in the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodsworth Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said: Agree with most in this topic. You can’t coach hands. You either have them or you don’t. Replace all the receivers except Hilton, Doyle, and Ebron in the offseason. I agree, you don't have to be an elite receiver to catch a fargin ball thrown in your hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsBlueFL Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 SiriusXM NFL Radio played (the relevant part) of this song in the background to Colts radio broadcast of many Colts dropped passes. It was sad, yet funny at the same time. {Drop it like it's hot} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 12 hours ago, Stephen said: Fix it by cutting them Not sure if you're being sarcastic. But its always easy to fire someone. The trick is to hire someone who is better than the guy you fired. If you can't, then firing him sets you back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdubu Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 6 hours ago, braveheartcolt said: Name them please. And don't say Dez. And some evidence that they would come here if we offered them a shot. I'm asking out of ignorance, not having a pop at you. I’m unsure of the names but I think I’ve seen enough wide open drops from Rogers already. He isn’t special with any one thing he does yet he continues to get new chances. At what point does the coaching say, we’ve given you several chances and you didn’t fix your drops issues and it’s costing us games. Time to make a change and a statement to the others. No yelling or screaming at the men to fix it, it’s the action. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsBlueFL Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 19 minutes ago, Jdubu said: I’m unsure of the names but I think I’ve seen enough wide open drops from Rogers already. He isn’t special with any one thing he does yet he continues to get new chances. At what point does the coaching say, we’ve given you several chances and you didn’t fix your drops issues and it’s costing us games. Time to make a change and a statement to the others. No yelling or screaming at the men to fix it, it’s the action. We'll know when it happens. I'm sure these subjects have been addressed and an event timeline discussed. Coaches like to coach... improve their players. They'll move on when they feel it has become an uncoachable situation and the player(s) still don't show improvement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfarley Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 8 hours ago, Steamboat_Shaun said: Yeah I don’t think it’s Luck... (watch with audio) All I can say is wow. Saw all of them live , but watching it again is painful and added with a sprinkle of bad andrew (no video available), 1-5 is not surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Debonair Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Aye at least they're cheap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 They are not catching with their hands or coming back to the ball with their hands, and are letting it hit their bodies. Rogers is the biggest culprit, and Hines' drops are also attributed to the same. They don't seem to execute the difference between using the body for the shield while using your hands for the catch, and end up using the body for both the shield and the catch. Concentration lapses plus poor technique across the board is what I see. Who is our WRs coach? Edit: found it - https://www.colts.com/team/coaches-roster/kevin-patullo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodsworth Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 10 hours ago, Steamboat_Shaun said: Yeah I don’t think it’s Luck... (watch with audio) This video is amusing yet aggravating. The one pass behind Ebron was on Luck, the rest were butter finger drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tikyle Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, chad72 said: They are not catching with their hands or coming back to the ball with their hands, and are letting it hit their bodies. Rogers is the biggest culprit, and Hines' drops are also attributed to the same. They don't seem to execute the difference between using the body for the shield while using your hands for the catch, and end up using the body for both the shield and the catch. Concentration lapses plus poor technique across the board is what I see. Who is our WRs coach? Edit: found it - https://www.colts.com/team/coaches-roster/kevin-patullo Came in here to post THIS. Almost all of their drops are chest drops. The only guy I can remember who drop the ball who actually tried to catch it with his hands was Ebron. That easy Hines TD where he jumped, it hit his chest. A lot of those guys last week it hit their chest or arms. No one is out there consistently catching with their hands. That's a big part of the issue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodsworth Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, chad72 said: They are not catching with their hands or coming back to the ball with their hands, and are letting it hit their bodies. Rogers is the biggest culprit, and Hines' drops are also attributed to the same. They don't seem to execute the difference between using the body for the shield while using your hands for the catch, and end up using the body for both the shield and the catch. Concentration lapses plus poor technique across the board is what I see. Who is our WRs coach? Edit: found it - https://www.colts.com/team/coaches-roster/kevin-patullo Patullo may be looking for another job post season unless his guys start catching with their hands. Inexcusable as a professional receiver to show such poor fundamentals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adubb84 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 11 hours ago, Steamboat_Shaun said: Yeah I don’t think it’s Luck... (watch with audio) Man can’t lie. Watching that video made me even more angry about the drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luck 4 president Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Catching is probably the easiest thing a WR has to do, yet lots of receivers struggle with it. I think it’s not very coachable because you never see guys like Dez or Ebron all of a sudden get reliable hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdubu Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 25 minutes ago, Luck 4 president said: Catching is probably the easiest thing a WR has to do, yet lots of receivers struggle with it. I think it’s not very coachable because you never see guys like Dez or Ebron all of a sudden get reliable hands I’m pretty sure that Ebron had his drops issues up in Detroit from what I recall others saying when we signed him. All the measurable in the world but had drops when the team couldn’t afford to have them. He has had a couple here, along with a few of them that would have been tough catches or contested but he isn’t immune here either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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