dew5150 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Scott Tolzien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaAllDay757 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodsworth Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Our starter! More sarcasm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltgoat Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Hooray for beer. Tolzein stinks. Can only hope some freakin lightbulb goes on and Morris actually starts! One can wish right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameszeigler834 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 14 minutes ago, Coltgoat said: Hooray for beer. Tolzein stinks. Can only hope some freakin lightbulb goes on and Morris actually starts! One can wish right? Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Only one of our QBs to throw a TD in a real game not named Andrew Luck: Scott Tolzien. With that said I think he's going to be the starter but it wouldn't break my heart to see Morris start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, GoColts8818 said: Only one of our QBs to throw a TD in a real game not named Andrew Luck: Scott Tolzien. With that said I think he's going to be the starter but it wouldn't break my heart to see Morris start. He lost that game lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricker182 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Colin Kaepernik should be starting for us week 1. At the very least though you have to have to QB with the best chance of winning start. The Colts can't even manage to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, Stephen said: He lost that game lol The Colts lost that game. Just about everyone who watched it said Tolizen did better than was expected and was not the reason they lost. Still like i said before it's not going to break my heart if Morris is the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveA1102 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 3 hours ago, GoColts8818 said: The Colts lost that game. Just about everyone who watched it said Tolizen did better than was expected and was not the reason they lost. Still like i said before it's not going to break my heart if Morris is the starter. Like you said, Tolzein didn't lose that game and, the thing is with Tolzein, he wont lose you many games. He will play it safe, make the check down throws and potentially make steady progress up the field if he plays well, but he wont win you any games either. In order for us to win with Tolzein under center, we need our newly formed defense to play strong and the running backs to make a real impact. I don't think either of those things is implausible, its just not going to be a game plan that would last past week 2 when teams have tape on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycolt1 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 4 hours ago, ricker182 said: Colin Kaepernik should be starting for us week 1. At the very least though you have to have to QB with the best chance of winning start. The Colts can't even manage to do that. Signing a QB who cant read defenses is not a good idea. There is a reason he has had no offers and it is not based on his political views. Calling the Colts out for not signing Kaepernik shows you need to do some more research on what it takes for a QB to come onto a new team and what his knowledge needs to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricker182 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 51 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said: Signing a QB who cant read defenses is not a good idea. There is a reason he has had no offers and it is not based on his political views. Calling the Colts out for not signing Kaepernik shows you need to do some more research on what it takes for a QB to come onto a new team and what his knowledge needs to be. It's definitely part to do with his political views. The other half is probably that he wants too much money for what he's worth. You cannot sit there and honestly tell me Scott Tolzien is better than Colin Kaepernick. It's just not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingus McGirt Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Here in N.C., I was in line at the workplace snack bar. A guy from Indy was in line behind me. Somehow the subject came up, and he was disgusted the Colts hadn't gone for Kaepernick. He was more disgusted at my response... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananabucket Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 11 minutes ago, Dingus McGirt said: Here in N.C., I was in line at the workplace snack bar. A guy from Indy was in line behind me. Somehow the subject came up, and he was disgusted the Colts hadn't gone for Kaepernick. He was more disgusted at my response... I say we take any Colts fan who wants Kaepernick, board them on a boat, and ship them out to sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jskinnz Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 6 hours ago, ricker182 said: Colin Kaepernik should be starting for us week 1. At the very least though you have to have to QB with the best chance of winning start. The Colts can't even manage to do that. Dear God... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jskinnz Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 2 hours ago, ricker182 said: It's definitely part to do with his political views. The other half is probably that he wants too much money for what he's worth. You cannot sit there and honestly tell me Scott Tolzien is better than Colin Kaepernick. It's just not true. Read this article and learn something. https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/08/31/colin-kaepernick-nfl-blackball-national-anthem-protests CliffsNotes for you 1. He is not very good at all - NFL teams have shown repeatedly they are willing to overlook horrendous character issues if a player could help them win. 2. He requires a specific offense to be successful that NFL teams really don't run 3. Teams do not want put in a 2nd offense to accommodate a backup QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollygagger8 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 6 hours ago, ricker182 said: Colin Kaepernik should be starting for us week 1. At the very least though you have to have to QB with the best chance of winning start. The Colts can't even manage to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grind Hard Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 2 hours ago, crazycolt1 said: Signing a QB who cant read defenses is not a good idea. There is a reason he has had no offers and it is not based on his political views. Calling the Colts out for not signing Kaepernik shows you need to do some more research on what it takes for a QB to come onto a new team and what his knowledge needs to be. Lol cant read defenses but has been to a super bowl and throw away from another WOW. Shows your true colors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernBlue Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Well I mean technically Luck didn't throw one either................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernBlue Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 19 minutes ago, Grind Hard said: Lol cant read defenses but has been to a super bowl and throw away from another WOW. Shows your true colors Went to a superbowl on a stacked team with one of the best coaches in the league. Trent Dilfer's been to a SB. It doesn't automatically make you great. And for the record, I do think Kaeperinick is better than Tolzien, however it would be too difficult to rebuild the entire offense in one week to accommodate him for what is likely only going to be like 2-3 weeks of game action (and I was thinking that BEFORE training camp started). Not to mention all the media attention it will bring, I can understand why the Colts and many other teams aren't willing to have him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Luck fan club Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Luck fan club Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 If Tolzien wins the starting job, what the # happened to the conpetition that Ballard preached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycolt1 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 2 hours ago, ricker182 said: It's definitely part to do with his political views. The other half is probably that he wants too much money for what he's worth. You cannot sit there and honestly tell me Scott Tolzien is better than Colin Kaepernick. It's just not true. No where did I say anyone is better than the other. I was speaking about Kaepernik and his inability to read defenses. Why sign any QB who will struggle for a band aid till Luck gets back? That makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 10 minutes ago, Xander said: If Tolzien wins the starting job, what the # happened to the conpetition that Ballard preached. I guess it means tolzien is better than Morris in the eyes of those who have all of the information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycolt1 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 44 minutes ago, Grind Hard said: Lol cant read defenses but has been to a super bowl and throw away from another WOW. Shows your true colors My true colors? What are you even talking about? Yes he played on a super bowl team. You notice I said TEAM. His style of play fitted what Harbaugh was doing. But as time went by other teams defenses figured out how to defend him and shut him down. Out offense is designed around a pocket QB and Kaepernik don't fit the bill. If your insinuating I have a problem with his politics that is a whole different subject. This is about his signing with the Colts and how IMO it would not be a good fit just for a band aid till Luck gets back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Luck fan club Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 22 minutes ago, jvan1973 said: I guess it means tolzien is better than Morris in the eyes of those who have all of the information okay. If you think Tolzien is the most talented qb, cool. If you wanna roll with a guy who has 2 career TDs and no wins in his starts, cool. Mind numbing. Stop quoting me with your nonesense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_ Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 27 minutes ago, Xander said: okay. If you think Tolzien is the most talented qb, cool. If you wanna roll with a guy who has 2 career TDs and no wins in his starts, cool. Mind numbing. Stop quoting me with your nonesense. Just because you disagree does not mean you're right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 26 minutes ago, Xander said: okay. If you think Tolzien is the most talented qb, cool. If you wanna roll with a guy who has 2 career TDs and no wins in his starts, cool. Mind numbing. Stop quoting me with your nonesense. There is a reason he is starting over Morris. Morris obviously isn't ready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Luck fan club Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, J@son said: Just because you disagree does not mean you're right This is probably the only football forum where fans are fine with starting Tolzien. Mind numbing. Joke. 3 minutes ago, jvan1973 said: There is a reason he is starting over Morris. Morris obviously isn't ready Guess Tolziens 2 career TDs and 0 wins is just too enticing huh? Joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_ Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Xander said: This is probably the only football forum where fans are fine with starting Tolzien. Mind numbing. Joke. Guess Tolziens 2 career TDs and 0 wins is just too enticing huh? Joke. Better than morris' 0 career TDs and 0 wins. See how easy it becomes when you look at things so black and white? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, Xander said: This is probably the only football forum where fans are fine with starting Tolzien. Mind numbing. Joke. Guess Tolziens 2 career TDs and 0 wins is just too enticing huh? Joke. He is obviously better than Morris. Chuck knows he is coaching for his job. Morris might not have a grasp on the playbook. Who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restored Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 minute ago, jvan1973 said: There is a reason he is starting over Morris. Morris obviously isn't ready I don't know if that's the case. Morris has clearly outplayed Tolzien the past two preseasons. Now, Morris could be really behind in the film room or not in good terms with the coaching staff but off of just game tape (given its preseason), Morris is the better QB. I think the Colts have to start Morris. Tolzien could win some games if the defense and running game weren't such a question mark but they are right now. Simply put, I don't think Tolzien could do enough to help the team win in the way that Morris possibly could. Tolzien won't be making big mistakes in all likelihood but he won't be making the big plays that Morris could possibly make either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Luck fan club Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 24 minutes ago, J@son said: Better than morris' 0 career TDs and 0 wins. See how easy it becomes when you look at things so black and white? He's never had an opportunity? Are you dense? 24 minutes ago, jvan1973 said: He is obviously better than Morris. Chuck knows he is coaching for his job. Morris might not have a grasp on the playbook. Who knows He's not a rookie, he knows the playbook. If you think Tolzien is better than Morris, we couldn't disagree more. 9 career games, 2 TDs and 7 INTs with 0 wins. But he's who you think gives our bad roster the best chance to win. Okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_ Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Xander said: He's never had an opportunity? Are you dense? He's not a rookie, he knows the playbook. If you think Tolzien is better than Morris, we couldn't disagree more. 9 career games, 2 TDs and 7 INTs with 0 wins. But he's who you think gives our bad roster the best chance to win. Okay I'm not dense at all. Just pointing out the reasons you gave (2 TDs and zero wins) are not a legitimate way to validate your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Luck fan club Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Just now, J@son said: I'm not dense at all. Just pointing out the reasons you gave (2 TDs and zero wins) are not a legitimate way to validate your opinion. 2 TDs 7 INTS and 0 wins in 9 games are very legitimate reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_ Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Just now, Xander said: 2 TDs 7 INTS and 0 wins in 9 games are very legitimate reasons. The addition of the bolded message significantly helps your position. Still the fact remains that tolzien has seen live action in real NFL games. That counts for a lot more than a most people realize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron11 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 9 hours ago, ricker182 said: Colin Kaepernik should be starting for us week 1. At the very least though you have to have to QB with the best chance of winning start. The Colts can't even manage to do that. he went 1-10 last year, the argument that he is our best shot at winning is weak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron11 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Grind Hard said: Lol cant read defenses but has been to a super bowl and throw away from another WOW. Shows your true colors he didnt read defenses though he got to a super bowl because of his own defense, while also having the best Oline in the league and a younger/better frank gore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 22 minutes ago, Xander said: He's never had an opportunity? Are you dense? He's not a rookie, he knows the playbook. If you think Tolzien is better than Morris, we couldn't disagree more. 9 career games, 2 TDs and 7 INTs with 0 wins. But he's who you think gives our bad roster the best chance to win. Okay You don't know his grasp on the playbook anymore than anyone else here. Tolzien isnt very good, but he must be better than Morris or he wouldn't be starting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 3 hours ago, ricker182 said: It's definitely part to do with his political views. The other half is probably that he wants too much money for what he's worth. You cannot sit there and honestly tell me Scott Tolzien is better than Colin Kaepernick. It's just not true. 9 hours ago, ricker182 said: Colin Kaepernik should be starting for us week 1. At the very least though you have to have to QB with the best chance of winning start. The Colts can't even manage to do that. NO NO NO Not because of the political stuff, but he SUCKS! too expensive for what he does(not) bring. I'd rather bring back Curtis Painter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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