The problem with Chudzinski

[bap1331]

You can leave the Browns, but you can't take the Browns out of you.

 

Bellichick found the cure. The cure of chea...nevermind.

[DipsyDoodles]

Is this seriously a thread..forreal? 

[AZColt11]

Seriously?  They are averaging almost 28 ppg.  I'm not sure why this is coming up.

[2006Coltsbestever]

The Colts Offense is among the best in the league, one thing that is bothersome though is Andrew getting sacked a lot. He's one tough dude to get hit as much as he does without getting injured. Last seasons injury was fluky as he got sandwiched on a run, at least he's been smarter this season about running and sliding more.

[TKnight24]

Chudzinksi claimed he'd use crossing routes, I don't see them unless I'm sipping my apple juice when they're being called so I miss them

 

But I swore he said there'd be a lot of emphasis on YAC this season by using short routes. Seems like it's 10+ yard routes on every pass play

[LockeDown]

I think Bruce Arians is still calling our plays.  Long distance headset.  

[NewColtsFan]

17 minutes ago, TKnight24 said:

Chudzinksi claimed he'd use crossing routes, I don't see them unless I'm sipping my apple juice when they're being called so I miss them

 

But I swore he said there'd be a lot of emphasis on YAC this season by using short routes. Seems like it's 10+ yard routes on every pass play

 

It's not.      You're sipping lots and LOTS of apple juice!       So, you might be the healthiest one of all of us!

 

But Chud is throwing very few long passes.     About 3-4 a game.

 

A fair amount intermediate.....   but a lot of short passes that the receivers are turning and running with.

 

Seriously,  Chud's doing a good job trying to get the ball out of Luck's hand as soon as he can.

 

It'll get better as the line gets better, but for five weeks,  it's a much, MUCH better offense.

 

It's not perfect.   And Chud has to clean-up some things.     But after 5 weeks,  other than the avalanche of sacks,  this is my favorite Colts offense of the Luck-era.

 

Of course, your mileage may vary............                       

[Myles]

This offense could be better, but it'd take a defense.    We don't have that.  

[ÅÐØNϧ 1]

7 hours ago, bap1331 said:

You can leave the Browns, but you can't take the Browns out of you.

 

Bellichick found the cure. The cure of chea...nevermind.

 

Dude Chud has done pretty good with what he has to work with , 

The real problem at this point is the defense & Chud can't be held accountable for that Peyton Manning built leads in the past & like Luck watched while the defense screwed the pooch . 

 

 

[bradgt04]

He was there for a year.  He didn't even get a chance to do anything, really.  He was also The panthers OC

[Devildog]

I'm really confused about this thread...

 

[csmopar]

Serious question. What is the difference between a Chud Offense and a Pep Offense? 

 

Seems that the only time we actually score or move the ball well is when Luck runs the Offense in the no huddle. And that's been that way for years. So what really has Chud brought to us?

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, csmopar said:

Serious question. What is the difference between a Chud Offense and a Pep Offense? 

 

Seems that the only time we actually score or move the ball well is when Luck runs the Offense in the no huddle. And that's been that way for years. So what really has Chud brought to us?

I do think Luck is better at checking off and throwing more screens under Chud but I would prefer the no Huddle because our Defense is lousy.

[krunk]

I think a good deal of what we are wanting to do right now is also being affected by not having Moncrief. I think the offense will open up even more with his return.  I'm glad Chester Rogers is getting some playing time though.  Once he gets comfortable that will give us 4 quality receivers to work with plus the tight ends.  If this Josh Ferguson would stop dropping the football he would be another ace in the hole. Kid came into the league with excellent hands so we need for him to get back to that .

[krunk]

3 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

The Colts Offense is among the best in the league, one thing that is bothersome though is Andrew getting sacked a lot. He's one tough dude to get hit as much as he does without getting injured. Last seasons injury was fluky as he got sandwiched on a run, at least he's been smarter this season about running and sliding more.

Sometimes during that Bears game it seemed like the protection was there but it would take Andrew a while to find an open route.  And in the course of all that moving around he'd get sacked.  I saw a couple plays like that.

[2006Coltsbestever]

I think we have a special talent in Luck and he deserves every bit of his contract. We would be 0-5 without him. Go more no huddle to jump on teams I say.

[Jason_]

3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I think we have a special talent in Luck and he deserves every bit of his contract. We would be 0-5 without him. Go more no huddle to jump on teams I say.

 

People said the same thing last year before he got hurt.

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, krunk said:

Sometimes during that Bears game it seemed like the protection was there but it would take Andrew a while to find an open route.  And in the course of all that moving around he'd get sacked.  I saw a couple plays like that.

Yeah some of that was due to great coverage by the Bears on our WR's and Luck not forcing a potential mistake. So far he has only 3 INT's through 5 games which is pretty good. He just probably figures I'll take the sack instead of a possible INT which he hasn't done a lot in the past. I would rather he throw it away  instead of taking hits. He looks healthy and feels healthy to my knowledge so he can take the hits at this point, just avoid shots to the head.

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, Jason_S said:

 

People said the same thing last year before he got hurt.

He is playing 10X better than last season and I will say to Hass's credit he played solid at times to get us a few wins. We don't have a Hass anymore.

[Jason_]

14 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

He is playing 10X better than last season and I will say to Hass's credit he played solid at times to get us a few wins. We don't have a Hass anymore.

 

They were able to win even without Hass last year.

[TKnight24]

#FreeMoncrief 

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, Jason_S said:

 

They were able to win even without Hass last year.

At the end of the year against a bad Titans team and a bad Dolphins team. I doubt we beat the Texans (1st time around) or Falcons without Hass.

[Jason_]

3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

At the end of the year against a bad Titans team and a bad Dolphins team. I doubt we beat the Texans (1st time around) or Falcons without Hass.

 

We'll never know.

[Jason_]

5 minutes ago, TKnight24 said:

#FreeMoncrief 

 

He kinda has to be healthy first

[OLD FAN MAN]

5 hours ago, TKnight24 said:

Chudzinksi claimed he'd use crossing routes, I don't see them unless I'm sipping my apple juice when they're being called so I miss them

 

But I swore he said there'd be a lot of emphasis on YAC this season by using short routes. Seems like it's 10+ yard routes on every pass play

I agree

[throwing BBZ]

5 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

It's not.      You're sipping lots and LOTS of apple juice!       So, you might be the healthiest one of all of us!

 

But Chud is throwing very few long passes.     About 3-4 a game.

 

A fair amount intermediate.....   but a lot of short passes that the receivers are turning and running with.

 

Seriously,  Chud's doing a good job trying to get the ball out of Luck's hand as soon as he can.

 

It'll get better as the line gets better, but for five weeks,  it's a much, MUCH better offense.

 

It's not perfect.   And Chud has to clean-up some things.     But after 5 weeks,  other than the avalanche of sacks,  this is my favorite Colts offense of the Luck-era.

 

Of course, your mileage may vary............                       

 

 Finally with tv coverage and Aikman showing lots of replays from behind the Offense.
 Chud had some solid route packages to breakdown the Bears secondary.
  We went at them fast in the intermediate and 2nd level and Lucky made a lot of quick reads and really put the ball on the money too.  lol  Chud and the boys showed some real progress, with quality execution Sunday. The more we succeeded the more excited i was to see what was next. yeehaa!
 How about Chester Rogers. The kid has got ability. Quan Bray made plays. Building Depth!!!
  We had some effective running 2 weeks in a row.
  lol getting blob Good and not ready Haig straightened out any time soon. Oh well.
  When we do, one or two of those FG`s will become touchdowns. And we might truly have an Offensive Monster that could attack the best defenses.  
 The Texans are in disarray right now. We should outscore them!

[lollygagger8]

I'm probably in the minority here, but I'd really like to see Quan Bray in at WR receiver more than Rogers. I know Rogers will get better, but Bray seemed pretty comfortable out there at WR. 

[Steamboat_Shaun]

I haven't been "blown away" by Chud thus far, but I also don't think he's bad, I attribute it to a lot of other factors. I will say, I was expecting a little more creativity, but that'll probably come with time. Drops and penalties have certainly hurt things too, almost as much as the sacks, so here's to hoping that stuff gets cleaned up as the season progresses, and the unit as a whole starts to get a better grasp on the scheme.

 

It'd also be nice if the defense could force more than one punt per game. I can only imagine if this offense had 4-5 more possessions every week, they'd put up 40 points like clockwork.

[NewColtsFan]

15 minutes ago, throwing BBZ said:

 

 Finally with tv coverage and Aikman showing lots of replays from behind the Offense.
 Chud had some solid route packages to breakdown the Bears secondary.
  We went at them fast in the intermediate and 2nd level and Lucky made a lot of quick reads and really put the ball on the money too.  lol  Chud and the boys showed some real progress, with quality execution Sunday. The more we succeeded the more excited i was to see what was next. yeehaa!
 How about Chester Rogers. The kid has got ability. Quan Bray made plays. Building Depth!!!
  We had some effective running 2 weeks in a row.
  lol getting blob Good and not ready Haig straightened out any time soon. Oh well.
  When we do, one or two of those FG`s will become touchdowns. And we might truly have an Offensive Monster that could attack the best defenses.  
 The Texans are in disarray right now. We should outscore them!

 

The Texans still have a lot of talent on the defensive side of the ball.    They might eat our o-line for dinner.

 

And if we made the Bears offense look great,  I fear what we might do to Osweiller and the Texans!

 

Color me nervous.......    

 

Do I think we CAN win?      Yes.      Do I think we WILL win?     Don't know.....

 

[Steamboat_Shaun]

1 minute ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

The Texans still have a lot of talent on the defensive side of the ball.    They might eat our o-line for dinner.

 

And if we made the Bears offense look great,  I fear what we might do to Osweiller and the Texans!

 

Color me nervous.......    

 

Do I think we CAN win?      Yes.      Do I think we WILL win?     Don't know.....

 

 

Deandre Hopkins and Will Fuller are going to be a handful, and I worry about Castonzo vs Clowney. We're going to have to give him some help over there, because Clowney is really starting to come into his own, and AC has had somewhat of an up-and-down season so far. Hopefully we can continue to improve in the run game, and that will go a long way to neutralize the pass rush, and eventually open some things up downfield.

 

All in all, I do like the Colts in this one. All the pressure is on the Texans right now, they're at home with the division lead on the line, they spent the cash on their shiny new QB, and have been declared the team to beat in the South. We've all seen how they fare vs good opponents this year, and it's been downright pitiful. If the Colts just go out there, play loose, and clean up some of the boneheaded mistakes, they will not lose this game.

[ColtsFanMikeC]

1 hour ago, ÅÐØNϧ 1 said:

 

Dude Chud has done pretty good with what he has to work with , 

The real problem at this point is the defense & Chud can't be held accountable for that Peyton Manning built leads in the past & like Luck watched while the defense screwed the pooch . 

 

 

 

One thing Peyton had that Luck hasn't (whether this is on Peyton/Luck vs. Moore/Chud) is fast starts.  Peyton generally built leads, allowing for his undersized defense with Freeney, Mathis and crew to just get after the opposing QB all game.

 

Luck can score quick, but too often it happens in come from behind fashion.  This team, IMO, would be much better all around if the O could score in the 1st quarter like they do in the 4th quarter.  Our D is not very good... in part due to injuries... but giving them a cushion should help them tremendously.

 

 

 

 

[ColtsFanMikeC]

49 minutes ago, lollygagger8 said:

I'm probably in the minority here, but I'd really like to see Quan Bray in at WR receiver more than Rogers. I know Rogers will get better, but Bray seemed pretty comfortable out there at WR. 

 

I like Rogers and Bray, especially as 4 and 5 WRs.  I still think Dorsett is more talented than both. 

 

One area where we still seem to be struggling, and I don't understand it, is with screen passes that turn into positive yards.

 

You'd think with Dorsett and Hilton both sub 4.4 guys (same with Moncrief when healthy) and Bray and Rogers not being too far behind (4.4-4.5 guys) that we'd have some success in this area... but it just doesn't seem to be happening.

 

Quan, although I think he is our 5th most talented WR (in terms of pure WR), does seem to be the best in space.  I wonder if he could excel if we built a few screen packages for him.

[Steamboat_Shaun]

3 hours ago, krunk said:

I think a good deal of what we are wanting to do right now is also being affected by not having Moncrief. I think the offense will open up even more with his return.  I'm glad Chester Rogers is getting some playing time though.  Once he gets comfortable that will give us 4 quality receivers to work with plus the tight ends.  If this Josh Ferguson would stop dropping the football he would be another ace in the hole. Kid came into the league with excellent hands so we need for him to get back to that .

 

We are missing Moncrief big time. And it's just the Colts luck that in a year where he's projected to be a breakout star, he gets injured on the first play of their second game. He should only be out another week or 2 though, right?

[LJpalmbeacher2]

I was under the assumption chud would help protect Luck's health by calling quick routes, screens, rollouts, etc...

So far luck is on pace for getting sacked 60times this year and I'm guessing his hits are high also. 

Like someone said above Arians is still calling our plays. And btw, I don't see much difference in Arian, Pep, or chud's offense.

[ÅÐØNϧ 1]

2 hours ago, ColtsFanMikeC said:

 

One thing Peyton had that Luck hasn't (whether this is on Peyton/Luck vs. Moore/Chud) is fast starts.  Peyton generally built leads, allowing for his undersized defense with Freeney, Mathis and crew to just get after the opposing QB all game.

 

Luck can score quick, but too often it happens in come from behind fashion.  This team, IMO, would be much better all around if the O could score in the 1st quarter like they do in the 4th quarter.  Our D is not very good... in part due to injuries... but giving them a cushion should help them tremendously.

 

 

 

 

 I agree the slow starts are a problem having said that ,

 

We have no Freeney & a Mathis who is a no show ,  No one at this point is able to get to the QB its really a sad situation made worse of course by the injury bug .

[Superman]

First, the OP is ridiculous.

 

On topic, sort of, I think there's plenty to nitpick about Chud on a weekly basis, but he's been okay for the most part. Some of his game flow is frustrating, but again, that's a nitpick.

 

On the other hand, he was terrible against the Broncos. Just awful. 

[ColtsFanMikeC]

1 hour ago, ÅÐØNϧ 1 said:

 I agree the slow starts are a problem having said that ,

 

We have no Freeney & a Mathis who is a no show ,  No one at this point is able to get to the QB its really a sad situation made worse of course by the injury bug .

 

You are right, we have not Freeney and Mathis looks like he lost a step -- but we also haven't really had the luxury to 'pin the ears back' (in fact, I can't think of really one time where we have had the luxury this season, we have either been trailing, in a tight game, or coming back to win in the 4th Q).  For many years with Peyton, Mathis and Freeney were total pass rush specialists.... with the injuries we have had on D, plus the fact we have never had a big lead this season, we can't afford to put a guy out there consistently whose only job is to rush the passer.

 

Getting the secondary healthy, hopefully, will help with rushing the passer as coverage may be a bit better... but until we are playing with big leads, it's going to be hard to consistently focus on hitting the other QB..... if we could get off to a 14-0 or 21-0 lead in some games, I think it'd do wonders for the D's ability to rush.  May just be my opinion, but I am probably right.

[bababooey]

can we like stop this guy from making threads.

[ThatOneColtFan]

8 hours ago, Jason_S said:

 

People said the same thing last year before he got hurt.

 

Last year the defense was better.

[masterlock]

I've not been impressed with Chud's play-calling thus far. Colts offense seems more boring now.